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4 minutes ago, stawns said:
Whatsamatter, you like to dole it out but can't take it back?
No, you’re immature and ignorant!! Grow up and learn about this team and hockey / the business side of it before you run off at the mouth!!
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Just now, ilduce39 said:
Sure, he’s been more of a contrarian lately but on this he’s said multiple times it’s a good trade and people are responding like he’s crapping on the deal with he isn’t.
It’s a nice gamble by the club and I get why people are excited - I am too. (But for me this needs to be part of a larger movement.. not a one off or two-off with the Horvat trade.)
Fair…..it’s just the overall attitude/ posts the last while! Him / some others are capable of bringing more to the table, but lately it seems like a lot of ignorance, negativity & assumptions.
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2 minutes ago, stawns said:
The maturity is strong with you!
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1 minute ago, stawns said:
Don't hate me because I'm smarter than you. Just accept it, you'll live a happier life.
This quote pretty much says it all!
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3 minutes ago, stawns said:
I'll disagree there, I've been pretty accurate on most things. But even if I weren't, how does that justify a personal attack?
Nope! You are 100% capable of bringing some good stuff to the table, but I don’t know what’s going on lately, but so many aren’t seeing it. Sorry, that’s the truth!
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2 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:
Stawns has said like 8 times he likes the trade, he’s just high on Lockwood.
Pull your heads out of your butts and read.
Maybe try looking a the big picture re: him!!!
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6 minutes ago, stawns said:
What's the point of personal attacks?
Because you’ve posted 95% garbage for a while now!!! Straight ignorance, negativity and a complete lack of understanding re: this team / hockey in general!
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1 minute ago, Petterson649 said:Wasn't Lockwood the type of player we need to keep? Defensive, aggressive, gritty checking forward?
Traded for a russian clueless jake virtanen
There's a reason he's a former 9th overall who didn't crack the team. Its called a BUST kids
The ignorance, negativity & jumping to conclusions on this forum by a handful of people is astonishing!
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Just now, Shayster007 said:
Oh, so you can't? Ok, carry on.
Learn to f’n read!!!
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1 minute ago, Shayster007 said:
Could you provide me with one single example of where I twisted your words or acted like a hypocrite?
Nope! Learn to read and take responsibility. I already spelled it out in another post.
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2 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
You do see the irony here don't you?
Yeah, that’s were it starts until people like him start twisting peoples words and being a hypocrite!
Do you not see the irony there?!
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1 minute ago, Shayster007 said:
Just can't help yourself eh?
Nope, not with people like you on here!
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1 minute ago, Shayster007 said:
Yup, we can agree there. Increasingly find if difficult to have a conversation without someone overreacting and starting to make personal attacks instead of actually discussing a subject.
Then, stop coming with crap and use that thing between your ears, then we can have a good / respectful discussion!
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4 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:
Yup, we can agree there.
Good job champ…defect when someone throws the facts at you! Common for a handful of you on here.
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4 minutes ago, stawns said:
I mean, that is the cyclical nature of professional sports isn't it? Is this a team you can see winning a Stanley Cup in the next 5-6 years? That's what every single sports organization has done, ever. You build something, you hope it'll succeed, but if it doesn't, you cycle back and try again.
You’re not wrong…of course there is. But, there is doing that efficiently, or prolonging it and f’n it up. The later has happen the last 7-8 years, but there is now the ability to do it right and I think that’s the plan. All I’m saying is why f it up again, lose star players and prolong it another 8-10, when it can be done in a much shorter time if that makes sense.
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Just now, Shayster007 said:
Am I dumb? Why reduce yourself to acting like that just because someone questions you.on something. No need to act like a child.
Because the ignorance / stupidity on here the last while is mind blowing!! Some need to get some common sense, logic and learn how to read! And stop stating their ignorance, opinions and assumptions as facts.
I tried to find a happy medium and say it could go either way, but you’re the one pretty much stating he’ll decline as fact…yet somehow you’re flipping it.
Maybe some of you need to stop & re-think / re-read what you are saying.
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9 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:
You're more comfortable basing your opinion off "what ifs". I'm more comfortable forming my opinion off evidence based off the past.
You're right, I don't know his current fitness, but neither do you? I asked if you knew anything about him having a high fitness level in my last post and didn't get a response. Again, what's more likely to be a final outcome. A player entering their 30s makes notable fitness advances, or a player entering their 30s starts to see a decline like the majority of players do. I work in physical fitness and rehabilitation professionally, in my experience it's the latter.
We don't have a crystal ball, we don't know the future. But the next best thing is using the evidence we have available to make an educated guess. That's why some of us didn't want to trade for OEL or sign Miller or Horvat long term.
You asking me, but neither do you! Are you dumb??? I said happy medium with stuff…and I SAID IT COULD GO EITHER WAY! But, taking care of yourself helps the cause. You’re the one acting like it’s a given he’ll decline.
This f’n forum sometime!!
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1 minute ago, DeNiro said:
Keep going with the current roster because you believe they can be good is already “f’n around”. They’ve shown their so far from the top teams it’s gonna take years to get there anyways.
Either Pettersson and Hughes are committed to being a part of that building or they’re not. You can’t keep putting out an average roster because you’re afraid of losing two players.
Never said the current roster was good, but you don’t need to keep dragging things out EXTRA years to the point of your star players leaving. There is an efficient re-tool or re-build and then there is f’n around and dragging things out, which will prolong how long this takes, which was my point! Some of you are already b******* that it’s been 8 years. So, this can be done efficiently in 2-3 or loose our star players and it will be another 8-10 and you and your other pals on here will really be losing your s***!! Do you understand how good Petey and Hughes are and how detrimental losing them would be?! At some point you need to build on what you have and move forward…not keep getting rid of good / great players, only to have to replace them again & again!
Your Canuck / hockey knowledge is hot garbage!! Again, ignorance and assumption as facts!
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5 minutes ago, stawns said:
And if they do, then you do it and get the huge hauls from those deals. If they keep miller, and settle into the mushy middle, they might want out anyway
So, you just wanted to keep repeating things…get good / great players and just keep cycling through them…at some point you need to build on what you have and move forward!
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4 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:
I've never started it as fact, and most of the arguments I see in regards to Miller don't state it as fact either. But the overwhelming statistical average does paint a picture, and that's what most people apposed to signing aging player long term reference.
For every Jagr there is 100 OELs where we see a significant drop off in performance at around 30. To further that argument, Jagr is not only a biological anomaly, but also wildy concidered an absolute fitness beast. Other notables are the Sedin Twins, and players like Crosby and Ovechkin who have aged like fine wines in the NHL. But there has, and was extensive reports backing the work ethic of these players. I don't ever recall hearing that Miller is consistently one of the top fitness performers year in and year out. But, if I'm wrong here I'd love to hear to and see a source. I just don't recall seeing it personally.
Again, point being it can go either way and no one has a crystal ball!! And, yes people have stated it as fact on both sides.
Also fact, is what deb said about taking care of health fitness…that’s true in all sports / all aspects of life. You do not know his current fitness, or his future fitness. Even if it’s not excellent now, doesn’t mean it can’t change. Hell, Tocchet address fitness, so there’s a good change that will change across the team regardless.
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2 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:
That should tell you our focus is the next 4-5 years. They are 24 and 25 this year, entering their prime. Trading Miller sets us back a couple years as we cobble together a 2nd line, wasting 2 years of their prime
That’s what some don’t understand…..keep f’n around for an extra 2-3 years and Petey, Hughes, Demko etc are going to want the f out of dodge…if that happens add another 5-10 years, which people have already b****** about the last 8 ish.
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1 minute ago, Shayster007 said:
In my opinion, this is completely backwards. Logical tells us a player heading into their 30s and beyond is statistically more likely to regress then get better or stay the same.
https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/03/23/a-new-look-at-aging-curves-for-nhl-skaters-part-1/
Emotional response can get in the way if that because we get attached to players and hope they don't follow the statical norm.
Fair, but not every player does, or even sometime it’s only a little. It could go either way. I think the lesson for many is stop assuming (stating it as fact)…no one has a crystal ball! As I’ve said too many times today, happy medium with things.
That being said, Deb is not wrong in saying that there’s a better chance of not declining if a player takes care of their health / fitness. Hell, look a Jagr!
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3 minutes ago, -DLC- said:
This is annoying.
Emotional thinking is "oh no, a guy past 30 will regress significantly". Logical thinking is guys in good condition, in their 30's, aren't "old men" who will suddenly decline at a rapid pace as their aging bodies fail them.
Emotional thinking is that fans know much more than the professionals in place making the decisions. Logic, to me, tells me they know what they're doing/working with.
I really hate when that sort of "we're logical, you're emotional" stuff gets thrown out there. It's weak.
Good on you for continuing to fight the good fight today…..I decided to have some beers, do some cooking & spend time with my family / my 2 German Shepherd pups. This place is exhausting today / lately!
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Just now, Alflives said:
Yup. We have two great young players in Petey and Hughes. We have very good support players like Miller, Mikheyev, and Kuz Missile. When Demko is healthy we have a top five goalie in the league. We have Podz and Hogs coming along too. And management just added Raty and another first. Our future is looking pretty good now.
Well said!!
For some to look at those things, plus a few other things and think it’s all bad is mind blowing!
How about some of the new coaches, the focus on developing players & the Sedin’s involvement in that. There is good if people stop having tunnel vision.
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[Trade] Rangers trade Vitali Kravtsov to Canucks for William Lockwood, 2026 7th-round pick
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That’s all you clowns can come up with these days…snowflake, woke, conspiracy and on and on and on!! Try dealing in reality! It’s sucks when someone confronts you with reality, the truth & honesty. I know some of you are incapable of living in that world.