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[Discussion] Sports, Do We Even Need It?
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Warhippy's topic in Off-Topic General
I'm good with no politics or religion on these boards, so when are they taking the slava Ukraina option off the "like" menu? Just the usual hypocrisy. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
The issue is that nobody can have cost certainty with Miller beyond next year until the 13th: that significantly affects his trade value. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Good point. It's also why it's hard to do a deal like this before the 13th when it's actually possible to re-sign Miller. Until then, any of the parties can say anything without any need to commit. You can't get a deal like this done on hypotheticals. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Agreed. This was never going to be easy, either as a trade or a re-signing. In fact it is almost impossible to get value either way, but of course management has to try and needs to drive a hard bargain. But if they demand anything like full trade value for Miller, teams are at least going to wait until the re-signing window opens on July 13, and in most cases look at free agents first where there is no acquisition cost beyond salary. One year of a bargain salary on Miller doesn't get us full hockey deal value and there are plenty of rocks to run aground on in trying to serve the club's best interests here. We need to cut management some slack on this one. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I take his expressed willingness to re-sign here as way more authoritative than your feeling that he doesn't. When did you manage to get inside his head? -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I disagree with Drance on many issues, in particular the "need" to trade Miller because he supposedly doesn't fit into our "window". But unlike most sports radio people, he actually does take a coherent position and puts some ideas together beyond the hyped-up persona. So he at least gives us something to think about, agree or disagree. Whether they know it or not, many of his critics on this board replicate his takes on Miller and other things, so it's hard to take them seriously. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Okay, so it's looking like at least one more sleep til we know what's going on here. According to Friedman, "the ball is in the Canucks' court" regarding term on a Miller extension as of earlier today. That would imply that there's some agreement about AAV. Sounds like they're not miles apart (just years) if that's accurate. My guess is that tomorrow is last call on trade offers and then management decides to either fish or cut bait. Or go back to the Miller camp with the threat of a trade to somewhere he may not be keen on ... Gotta be some heavy brinksmanship going on here. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Yeah, the whole industry seems populated with losers and idiots. Good luck normalizing it with front men like these. -
Very interesting and great news for the afflicted. The neuro-connective and neuro-regenerative properties of psylocybin do seem to be legit. There are boosters like Paul Stammets who maybe push it a bit farther than it will go, but without them the clinical work will never get done. I also note with approval that people these days don't tend to treat mushrooms and other hallucinogens like party drugs quite the way we did when I was young. Take it seriously, have someone look after you and it will probably work out better.
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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
For sure. The question is how we lose the least value: trading Miller for lesser players or signing him for too much money and term. Not an easy call for management and it will obviously depend on what is actually on the table. I'd love them to work out something reasonable to keep him, but put the odds of a trade at about double those of a re-signing. Not that I'm like that child molester guy on those Bet365 ads on Sportsnet. -
[Signing] Canucks sign Andrei Kuzmenko
Maniwaki Canuck replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Huge. Gotta figure that besides Boudreau, Podkolzin must have played a role in this. The good experience he had here in his first year and the regard his team mates go out of their way to show for him must have helped convince Kuzmenko that this isn't a completely anti-Russian environment. -
Whoever coined the phrase "you can't fix stupid" must have been thinking of Kypreos. All kinds of changes to the lineup might be coming but the problems that need to be fixed aren't about a country club environment. You don't climb out of the hole we were in when Boudreau took over with an entitled attitude. These players care about winning. This team isn't "broken".
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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
Maniwaki Canuck replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Maybe I've been a Canuck fan too long but both the likely outcomes with Miller look disappointing. If we deal him, we're not going to get hockey-trade value back in return. I we sign him, it's going to be too much for too long. I don't envy management having to navigate this one and wouldn't be surprised if they dual track it, negotiating an extension while also looking at trade options, even involving Miller's agent for input about whether he'd re-sign in prospective destinations, since that would increase return. Love the player but I'm expecting him to be traded. It will be a blow to the team but we'll have come out ahead on what we paid for him. Factoring in his cap along with whatever return there is, we might just hold our current level of play and come out with a younger and more coherent roster. But we're not winning any trade that ships him out. -
Actions are what matters, for sure. And it's easy to understand why GMs don't want to share everything with the fan base and feel like they have to manage our stellar media. Trotz ... I don't think so but there's no denying he'd fix our systems play.
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I can see having some concerns over this management group. Their handling of the Bruce situation is too smart by a half. If they really want someone else then go for it but damning with faint praise and daring him to jump ship is just passing the buck while trying to look decisive. With that said, I do agree with their critique of our systems play and breakouts. But I'm not sure if going public with that critique at this moment was the most constructive move. Undoubtedly they are overhauling how the organization does scouting and player development: we'll just have to wait on the results there but it's hard to question the need to do it. As far as getting relevant perspectives into the decision-making process, I still vastly prefer the team they've assembled over the JB/Weisbrod duo. But I get the sense that Allvin isn't going to wear well as a communicator and that we'll end up as sick of him on that front as we were of Benning: different styles (bumpkin vs. velcro lips) but similarly grating.
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It stands to reason. Bruce has the remaining year with us to fall back on, but he hasn't exactly accepted it despite saying he wants to return. Hard to see what else this adds up to but testing the waters around the league.
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It's a real thing up to a point, but more a moving target. If you've been following the Miller debates here, there are some posters who know with mathematical certainty that our window opens in 2-5 years. I call bs. It all depends on what moves get made every year, how many players are outperforming or underperforming their contracts, depth and injury luck, etc.: things you can't control or predict. Did anyone know that Calgary, for example, was going to be this good this year? But yeah, I will agree that there are clear cases of tank/rebuild at one end of the spectrum and peak contending at the other. For most teams in the middle ground it isn't so cut and dried, though, and getting better is the name of the game.
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They're completely right about structure and zone exits. Was an even bigger problem under Green though. Shaw made some difference but it's strange that with all the changes that have happened, this hasn't been fixed.
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I like it. An OEL/Hughes pairing is not going to rim the puck out of their own end on the forehand very often, so no problem that they're both left shots. Your two bottom pairings have the puck-moving/stay-at-home complementarity that usually makes sense. And the pairings can switch around situationally, revert to this year's format when needed, etc. The fact is that moving off of our current D personnel is going to be difficult and we can't afford additions that would make it an even more expensive group. So thinking about how to get more out of who we have is important. The other factor there is what Rutherford just singled out: team structure and breakout system.
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Me too, but I'll wait til it actually happens also.
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Yeah, if Bruce ends up with the Showers I, for one, would lose it.
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I understand that but it is, as you say, kinda harsh and the guy has some pride and more importantly, options.