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  1. I mean guys who do it for a living. I mean yeah sometimes the media and expert analysis can be wrong but the analysis seems fair neither over valuing or under valuing the Canucks.
  2. Maybe not the worst but it's the contract that is hurting the Canucks' contract efficiency as written in The Athletic https://theathletic.com/3467384/2022/08/03/nhl-contract-rankings/ OEL has the worst contract value in the team next to, no surprise, Myers. The article values OEL should have an AAV of just over 4 million and Myers just over 2 Million. Which basically makes OEL a #4 and #5 and Myers a #5 and #6 defensemen which many in the media and the nhl already precieve. However if we are talking bout this coming season then yes I suppose OEL is still ok and does help the defense. But the problem isn't so much what happens this coming season but in the next few seasons when Allvin has to resign players but can't since OEL is being overpaid by $4 Million per year. As for the ranking of defense of the Pacific division Sportsnet 650 already did that recently. https://www.sportsnet.ca/650/peoples-show/hour-2-ranking-the-pacific-division-defensive-units/ Calgary and Vegas were set to #1 and #2 while Vancouver was, depending on was being asked, ranked #5 and #6 with LA, Edmonton, and Anaheim (for the one who picked Canucks are #6) ahead of them.
  3. For Kuzmenko production in the KHL is too much a of wild card since we have seen Panarin and Shipachyov going in completely different directions. For Podkolzin that is also possible but the same argument can be that young players in the same team will take an equal step forward. Example is Quinton Byfield, who basically was a 0.25 PPG player last season a tad lower than Podkolzin but it's also possible Byfield will take an almost equal step forward and this gives the Kings probably the Top 3 best center depth in the Western Conference (and possible the best in the Pacific).
  4. Hmmm The Athletic doesn't seem to be so optimistic https://theathletic.com/3475049/2022/08/04/nhl-team-rankings-offseason/ This article predicts the number of wins added (or lost per team) If going by pure Wins and Losses this means Edmonton, Los Angels, and Calgary will take the Top 3 spots in the Pacific again. Vancouver (that gain 1.3 wins) will surpass Vegas but both teams will still miss out with St. Louis and Dallas being the Wild card teams. So the team could make the playoffs as a bubble team but I doubt it places #2 in the Pacific. I think we are being over confident in how Vancouver could finish. The analysis I have seen so far indicates it's going to be a middle of the pack team. I also don't see how people can predict Vancouver will play as well as they did down the stretch while LA will take a step back. Considering Vancouver has just as much, if not more, question marks than LA.
  5. That lineup still has too many question marks to me. Kuzmenzko hasn't even played a single NHL game yet and Podkolzin has to take a huge step forward for the 3rd like to be effective.
  6. He's the 4th center and his NHL numbers do seem like he's a fit in that position. So I don't see why it hurts the credibility of the article especially since the Top 2 is still very impressive. As for The Canucks' placing it seems about right if look at the teams Canucks are grouped with and the fact Dickinson is the 3rd line center right now. Plus I don't see why Vancouver should be on the same level as New Jersey, Pittsburgh, or Tampa. I get the other question is how come Pettersson isn't listed as center. but as someone pointed out, he's listed in the LW there, rightfully or wrongly, Though it does bump up Canucks in that position so that's is also a good thing even at the expense on how the teams rank in the middle.
  7. Not if the Canucks are still in for the playoffs. Then Allvin has no choice but find a way to keep him, and at that point Miller's side will have all the leverage
  8. Well Calgary got a 1st round pick (well 2025) but still something that give them a future and it's a good deal not a jackpot but Calgary is in their window and Vancouver isn't. But I think the bigger point is I don't think Vancouver isn't going to get a Top Prospect + 1st round Pick for Miller. Maybe in the trade deadline a team could offer that but only if teams really get desperate and there's a bidding war.
  9. That is the thing Florida isn't going to give up anymore of their futures and young players especially with the Tkachuk trade. The folks in Sportsnet made a great point do people see the Tkachuck/Huberdeau trade as the Tkachuck trade or the Huberdeau trade? We all know it's the former but this ask the question if Calgary was able to execute a good deal trading away Tkachuck and Vancouver can't for Miller. Do other teams see Miller as a superstar player or someone that is more part of a package? Point is I don't think Miller can command Florida giving up a young NHL Player + a prospect and a pick for Miller. It's more likely going to be the other way around especially with Miller's UFA status. Let's say Canucks want Anton Lundell. It's probably going to be to Flordia JT Miller Lottery protected 1st round pick to Vancouver Anton Lundell 3rd round pick
  10. Strangely enough Kyle Okposo has actually bounced back last season. Maybe he has a 2nd wind in his career ? At the very least Buffalo can probably get some good assets if they trade him in the deadline
  11. I am going to be perfectly honest ... I thought Gaudreau was only 25 Having said that he and Tkachuck still accepted less money playing elsewhere
  12. Feels like a kind of deal that Huberdau's agent knew they had all the leverage against Calgary. It's almost so gleefully parasitic to fleece Calgary with that money and term.
  13. in any case if Vegas does get injury problems again they are in indeed trouble. But it might just be a one off. Remember that one season where Tampa had like 3 of it's top Centers injured? They missed the playoffs but bounced back the next season. Same could happen for Vegas but maybe not. But, until proven otherwise, I consider them missing the playoffs as a "one-off"
  14. Well we did use it here for the 2011 finals and 2012 playoffs
  15. But ouch 10.5 for Huberdeau and 9.5 for Tkachuck. I guess the Panthers are right up there with the Bolts in signing good contracts.
  16. True but I suspect Flames have like a 2 to 3 year window of any kind anyways
  17. Also if Demko (who basically bailed out the teams defense) can perform the level he did last season? Goalies are usually the hardest to predict going into a season
  18. As someone here already said this overrated team that had most of their top players injured still managed to finish ahead of the Canucks. If Vegas is overrated I can't imagine to think what the Canucks are
  19. Besides the recent neck injuries I think there were only 2 season where he missed around those number of games. Even so and let's say he plays 65 games only it's not going to sink the team completely considering the teams talent.
  20. Exactly people seem to evaluate the Canucks in a void or a bubble not realizing the moves or progress other teams have made as well. Even if the Canucks do improve whose to say other teams haven't as well. LA and Anaheim both look like teams that could overtake Vancouver.
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