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  1. 18 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

    That song was written decades ago.

    It's descriptive of human nature.


    I have been driving a LPG vehicle for nearly 30 years,it still pollutes however it pollutes less.


    As soon as I can afford an electric vehicle that suits my needs- can deliver my flowers- I will buy one.

    I really don't know much about LPG but quick look I see it's cleaner and even claims better for engine so that's a good thing. I've owned a few vehicles my last vehicle was a 1984 Honda Accord :lol:, I did finally buy a newer car but it wasn't electric, but a 2019 Kia Forte they actually took my Honda for $300 for trade in :lol:. The car has 3 modes, Smart, Normal, Sport, I always drive in Smart and try to keep my L/100km the lowest possible, I want to think by not having a heavy foot and not having the revs up higher burning more gas in Normal and Sport mode I'm helping a bit, and saving money on gas :lol:


    Edit: When driving along highway 1, I did a test after filling up had it in smart mode and put cruise on my commute was 36mins check out my fuel L/100 ridiculously low.



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  2. 9 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

    It's so easy to defend the status quo 

    When everyone so cool and cynical 

    But when you see the end don't justify the means 

    It's just that 180 degrees 


    The great thing about being human 

    Is our ability to reason 

    But reasoning don't work when no one cares 

    Two parts apathy one part despair 


    Mike Burkett 


    Good question Chuck 

    One that millions are asking.

    What we cannot do is say just because others don't give a $&!# we shouldn't.





    Funny quote actually :lol: just regarding other issues on here recently. 


    I know we can't, but that's just an example of how easily someone could feel when other countries just aren't taking it as serious, definitely lingers in the back of my mind even when I still believe I deserve to be taxed because I drive and pollute. 

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  3. Look yesterday I decided to really voice my honest opinion here and explain why someone like myself who isn't vaccinated and still isn't getting it, in the past I've come here occasionally and posted an article or something of a new study that has come out regarding the vaccine, not to stop people from taking the vaccine but to help inform them of recent information that does come out, people still have a right to know this information whether the news channel wants to show it or not because it doesn't fit their narrative all of a sudden, people still have a right to know if even it is a small amount, no information should be kept from anyone. 


    I knew it would create a response it's something I've actually tried to avoid here because I knew this exactly would happen, I've read in here so I do know how many feel here, but I felt I have a right to my opinion and heck maybe some people might actually enjoy talking and digging up my mind a bit to really figure out why he doesn't want to get the vaccine.


    To see that I'm being labeled as this troll now or this anti vax fake news conspiracy or whatever people are calling it heck I don't even know. My opinion has been like this since day one when Pfizer tried to make the claim their vaccine was 90% effective then days later after Moderna said theirs was 94.5%, then Pfizer was now 95%, I never trusted this hence when my skepticism started on this vaccine and on top of it the rush and quickness with emergency panic use. I didn't need no fake news or people influencing my opinion I made this opinion up on my own from the start, and as this virus and vaccine has gone on my opinion still hasn't change this is why I addressed it with so many posters in here when they quoted me, I wanted to show you why I'm making this choice. I'm not here telling you or anyone to not take the vaccine, never once have I said this or will.


    Now everyone knows my stance, I will also add I haven't ruled out taking the vaccine completely but for the moment I'm not taking it, I think I voiced my opinion on why I am skeptical still, and I am well aware of what everyone responded to me with to help change my view on the matter, the same stuff I've been receiving and reading from family members. I've seen how the vaccines are definitely helping in the reduce of deaths I'm not denying any of that information, like I've stated I know their intent is to help people and not hurt them, it's obvious they're still learning as this goes on and how effective the vaccine is dealing with mutations and such, or other side effects that people may encounter with the vaccine, even if it is small their still learning. I think I'd be more comfortable once they have determined and found out all the side effects of the vaccine. 


    Personally though before the vaccine came out and when we were first dealing with this virus, I wanted the whole world to literally shut down for 2-4 weeks. I felt this would of been the best way to deal with it to eliminate it at the beginning, but of course the way the world works they felt financially this wasn't pratical and can't be done, I'd argue yes it would of hurt financially a bit, but it would of been much less of a hit then trying to live with it for 2 years and lockdown multiple times in between to hurt financially way more. Anyways that can be an argument for a different day.


    I will step out of this topic, but if I do read something that comes up that imo people have a right to know then I will come back here and post it to show them, and I understand some or many may not agree with it because it may not fit the narrative that's going on at the moment, but if it's a study even if it's a small amount of people it effects, I will let people know especially for the ones who have got vaccinated because you do have a right to know, even if the News channel doesn't tell you, and just because the News didn't say or show it doesn't mean it's fake, there is some stuff they decide not to say or show still, they're not all as bad as Fox News, but they have their secrets to don't think they're all perfect now.

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  4. 8 hours ago, coho8888 said:

    FFS, that doctor did not say Delta was not serious.  He said it was not serious for those that are vaccinated.  That was the whole premise of his video.  Indonesia has only 9.7% with one dose and 8.5% fully vaxxed which explains the high death rates.  

    get vaccinated.

    And how does he know if people who catch it with the vaccine won't have long term effects of covid after? Because he says it not serious for them.... GTFO 


    Yes I am aware of Indonesia and the vaccine it's definitely hurting them, but it's the KIDS who are dying from Delta 5 and under, but you're just going to ignore that I guess, and just blame not getting vaccinated go figure.

  5. 3 hours ago, coho8888 said:

    Not sure what exactly you are asking.  I have no concerns with the Long term effects of the Vaccine.  I have been double vaxxed now for a month.  I do know that I still stand a chance at getting Covid and having long term effects from it.  But being fully vaxxed provides me a safety net and combined with my mask wearing and overall caution, I feel safe.


    I posted the video for info.  I did not provide my comments.  I did not say I agreed with everything the doctor said.  He is also from the US where you can and could have gotten fully vaxxed much earlier.  We still have some young people that are waiting for their second dose so I don't agree with opening everything up fully.


    Look you have made it clear that you have an issue with how these vaccines are fast tracked.  No need to beat a dead horse.  This is your opinion and you have no scientific basis to conclude that this is the case.  Others have posted about how the process of testing took place and that it wasn't necessarily rushed.  None of these people are expressing their opinions or gut feelings.  They are giving you facts.



    I said forget about the vaccine long term effects then because that's what we were discussing and that it doesn't concern you at all, so that's why I said lets forget about it then so we don't go back and forth on it, and after watching the video you posted and seeing how upset a doctor is or supposedly a doctor is over people using a mask, then I asked if you care about long term effects of covid if you do catch it, because according to the video you posted he doesn't. So why post the video then if you yourself don't agree with everything.... This is now the part I don't understand at all, are you posting it to educate people on his opinion? Because that video is actually his opinion not facts. It doesn't make sense why post it then? Especially when you want to talk about facts...

  6. 3 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

    You just conflated water with the virus.  I'm pointing out that it's closer to the vaccine, with its associated risks, known issues, and the plethora of experiments ongoing with it.



    Well your making a claim how bad it is for us to drink water, so isn't the first thing to try and fix it? Isn't that what were doing with covid? Isn't that why a vaccine was developed to help fight it and fix the issue? So why wouldn't the same logic be used with water since you want to bring it up and compare it.

  7. Also that video someone posted that claims to be a doctor, has anyone bothered to look at what's happening to Indonesia? I checked the world meter last week and looked for any countries that stood out Indonesia stood out because their deaths were really high, so check them again yesterday last night, it was a little alarming to read and see especially with what's happening to the kids actually, but hey that docotor on YouTube claims Delta isn't that serious...


    Seriously just google Indonesia and covid and take a look for yourselfs.

  8. 3 hours ago, EOTM said:

    That'd a news report not a scientific study right? That's a fox news out of Kansas editorial right?


    Honestly you seem like a nice person and you seem intelligent so why the willful ignorance?

    I didn't even know it was fox tbh I agree I'm not a fan of Fox, my mother sent it to me because she wants me to get vaccinated I'm going to get mad her actually because she knows better and even hates fox, but anyways regarding it being approved by the FDA are you acknowledging that part is true or ignoring it because it was a news report by fox?


    That is legit truth though the vaccine has never been actually approved, it was only emergency approved for panic use, here read the definition. 



    What is an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)?

    An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA.


    I still don't understand how something that's not actually approved is not considered experimental, obviously the person over at Fox sees it like that, I see it like that, I question why is hard for others to see it like that tbh.

  9. 1 hour ago, EOTM said:

    Not crazy at all. Just either misinformed or you have made up your own definition of what an experiment is.

    Misinformed when it says this.... hmm okay...



    Until full approval is granted, all three of the coronavirus vaccines currently offered in the U.S. are technically considered experimental treatments.


  10. Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine expected to receive full FDA approval by Labor Day, report says


    KANSAS CITY, Kan. (WDAF) – Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine may soon be the first to be fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration.


    The New York Times reports that because of the delta variant and the number of surging COVID-19 cases, the FDA accelerated the timeline to fully approve Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine. According to the New York Times, the agency wants to grant full approval by Labor Day.


    Millions of people have received Pfizer’s version of the vaccine since the FDA granted the company emergency use authorization (EUA) late last year. Moderna’s and Johnson and Johnson’s vaccines also have emergency authorization.



    Under the EUA, the FDA allowed the use of the coronavirus vaccines even though they weren’t fully approved because COVID-19 was considered a life-threatening emergency and there was no other alternative treatment available.


    Since granting the EUAs, the FDA has spent months evaluating the vaccines and data from different studies and the vaccine companies. The administration takes all of those findings into account before granting full approval to a drug.


    So, why is full approval important for something millions of people have already received?


    Until full approval is granted, all three of the coronavirus vaccines currently offered in the U.S. are technically considered experimental treatments. Hospitals, universities, and other businesses have said they don’t feel comfortable requiring employees to get vaccinated until the FDA gives its approval. Once that happens, the vaccine will no longer be considered experimental. They also hope it will prevent legal ramifications that could surface with requiring workers to take an experimental vaccine.


    Health experts have also said many unvaccinated people use the vaccines experimental status as a reason they don’t want to get the shot. Once it is fully approved, experts hope it will convince vaccine-hesitant people that the vaccines are safe to get.


    “I think that is a game-changing moment. It’ll be fully authorized. I think you’ll see a lot of businesses and other places say we’re going to require vaccination. I think that’s going to start happening sooner and sooner. And I think that’s probably in many ways, if we’re going to protect ourselves as a society against COVID-19, it’s going to be the right thing to do,” Dr. Steve Stites, chief medical officer at the University of Kansas Health System, said Wednesday during an update with the hospital.


    “There are very few other drugs, if any, that have (been given to people) … a billion times and studied across the world.. I think there has been a lot of focus on these medications, and lots of reports that this side effect or that side effect that people had to go evaluate. And because it’s so many people, we’ve been able to run down all those side effects. So I’m very confident that especially these messenger RNA drugs are going to be very safe,” Stites said.

    Moderna filed for full FDA approval on June 1. The FDA said it needed the company to submit additional information before it would be considered for full approval.




    But I'm the one who is crazy for thinking this has been experimental, yeah whatever you people say.

  11. 46 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

    Water has an LD50 value.  Water can cause various side effects, some of which are quite dire.  Water is constantly being experimented on.


    I don't see any posts of yours voicing skepticism about water.  :rolleyes:

    Ok since Deb wants me to address this so be it then. 


    Well what should we do? Is there a vaccine for it yet? How long is the vaccine going to take a few months? I guess the question will be will people take a vaccine to protect them from water? Or is anything even being done?


    What about driving a car? Theirs a risk of dying does it stop people from driving or getting into a vehicle no. Smoking is another risk yet people do it, even though they know their slowly killing themselves but they take the risk anyways still. 

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  12. 15 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

    So what's your response (don't have one)?   


    Your deflecting speaks volumes.

    Really this is the route you want to go with this wow. Out of all the posters who have quoted me in then last couple days and I've responded to them in a decent manner with how I view things, but this one is considered deflecting now in your mind lol. Because this topic is about covid and not water, so it's ok to derail threads now and talk about other issues when it fits your narrative interesting. 

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  13. 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

    I'm curious Chuck, what would tip things for you to not be as skeptical over the vaccines? or is it a matter that you'll never trust the process because you think its rushed. 

    Rushed just a little bit, I get it was done out of panic, so that does worry me a bit. I actually do trust them, like I've stated yesterday and other times I do believe their intent is to help people, that I strongly stand by, and going by history vaccines have shown to help not denying any of that, but at the same time those vaccines were very thoroughly tested to be safe. I know they keep claiming everything was thoroughly tested for these vaccines, that's what they want us to believe and I do hope that's true, just this vaccine was developed in under a year it's really hard to say if the proper thorough testing was done correctly due to the panic of getting a vaccine so quick. 

  14. 9 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

    Water has an LD50 value.  Water can cause various side effects, some of which are quite dire.  Water is constantly being experimented on.


    I don't see any posts of yours voicing skepticism about water.  :rolleyes:

    I wasn't aware a covid topic was about H2O now....

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  15. 1 minute ago, -DLC- said:



    You can't assign "smart" to groups of people....there will be good and bad in all professions.  Some of them know things, but not everything as your statement would hint at.  

    Oh I know their forcing it on them now, I've seen this already, definitely interesting how people who go to school and get educated on the health care system, are refusing to take a vaccine still... You would think they would be the firsts to have it.

  16. 13 minutes ago, EOTM said:

    I think he upset about it being boiled down to just masks. He isn't against masks really just that they aren't the end all be all.

    For someone who claims to be a doctor he's definitely sending the WRONG message to people. 

  17. 15 minutes ago, EOTM said:

    So if that was that fastest than 1.5 years is reasonable considering they cut out all of the waiting time before approval to each clinical phase, threw all the money at it, and it's been 50 years of technological advances don't you think?

    I do believe with medical advancements this was going to happen not denying that, and for the record this vaccine was develop in less then a year just so you know.

  18. 19 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

    OPERATION WARP SPEED (one thing I give TRUMP credit for and I'm a big TRUMP critic)






    That is why it happened so "quick"


    Answered multiple times in this thread (see previous page of this thread).

    Then don't quote me or block me if you don't like what I'm saying, no one is forcing you to interact with me.

  19. 2 hours ago, BPA said:

    Thanks for the link. 


    So scientists were researching mRNA for 30yrs.  Then did clinical trials on animals, then clinical trials on humans.  Then Covid-19 vaccines came out.


    So I'm not sure what else you wanted them to do?  Seems to me that they followed a logical scientific process in developing the vaccine. 

    I was just making the point regarding how this is the first time mrna has been approved for use in humans and I consider it experimental still, you asked for the link so I showed you.

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