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3 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:
Jacob Markstrom. 4th in Vezina voting (for us).
At least Gillis got something for moving both goalies
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5 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said:
Not sure what you mean but my point, is that the young core JB was able to build will perhaps give the Canucks a good chance of competing for a cup. Ofcourse, there are no guarantees - so who knows; and it will be our descendants to witness the Canucks winning the cup
Basically what I'm implying is I'm skeptical, but I get your optimism with them, no question I see lots of skill in them not ignoring that, but I also see undersized vulnerable players hence being skeptical.
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I won't miss Edler trying to be the 2nd goalie in the crease anymore
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4 minutes ago, Devron44 said:Man. Remember when we had a goaltender controversy. Instead of trading one, he traded Both! ……Both of Them!
Technically yes he did, but Tortorella is the one to blame here, he is the one who believed Eddie Lack gave the Canucks the best opportunity to win games over Luongo
hence the real reason he was traded.
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Definitely trying to get his feet wet again to get back into a bigger role my guess, take what you can get.
I'd rule out the Canucks
, but yes I see it as a setup to get back into a GM role if he can somewhere
13 minutes ago, kanucks25 said:Hope this is just a setup for him to eventually return as Canucks GM
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21 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said:
Yeah, Gillis has all the trophies and JB has the picks to perhaps give him the one trophy that trumps them all - fingers crossed.
Has any of his picks in the last few years been injured at all....
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29 minutes ago, johngould21 said:
This team has paid for the Burke/Nonis and Gillis teams because of those successes, and taking late round picks. Name one on the roster from that era. Poor drafting from '06 to Horvat, and that cost a damn good goalie prospect at the time. Only in the last 5 years have we seen the results of good drafting. EP, Hughes, Boeser, and that's just the start.
Really so the only reason Benning isn't as good as some of the previous GMs is because they made it harder for him... That's the excuse people are going with.
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11 minutes ago, Alflives said:
But we’re still here, loving our team, and having fun. That’s entertainment!
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2 minutes ago, The Lock said:
Actually, if you look at the times before the 2000's, we were a terrible team overall, only ever reaching the finals by fluke and missing most playoffs for the 1st 30 years. If you consider that, the overall trend is still upwards. I dare you to look at our record from the 70's and 80's.
We also won't know how Benning matches up until later on when we've seen the effects of his tenure here. You didn't even include Nonis in your analysis for whatever reason as most of Gillis' team was made by Nonis.
No I'm comparing Benning to the actual good GMs to see where he fits, because a lot of people still are trying to defend Benning as a good GM, so I wanted to compare him to the other Canuck GMs who have been successful or considered good here. Even a guy like Burke who came in after Keenan and was still able to make the playoffs 4 out of his 6 years here, after drafting the Sedins as well. But a guy like Benning who has been here 7 years and only 2 playoff appearances(one luckily due to covid season stoppage) and this team is still supposedly a couple years away still, how is Benning even considered a good GM here tbh... He's just not as good as some believe period.
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Just now, Alflives said:
Okay, when you put it like that, it don’t look so good.
No it doesn't
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25 minutes ago, knucklehead91 said:
Totally agreed, we need to slide him down the lineup. We relied on him pretty heavily this year and IMHO he was one of our better D. But if we could have a guy like Edler as our 2nd or 3rd pairing guy and a true #1 dman with Hughes, we’ll be in a very… very good position.
If they want to sign him after filling the spots I'm okay with that, but if he's being signed to fill the spot first I'm totally against it, time for new blood.
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20 hours ago, The Lock said:
The way I see it though, it's easy to have a hyper-focus on the team you love. You see this with fans of other teams as well where we would look at them and it might not seem as big of a deal.
I've heard so many fans of other teams at this point state how they feel our future looks bright given our drafting, so is nit-picking every little detail at that point worth it? Personally, I just don't have the time nor the energy to worry about every little detail that's gone on. It doesn't bring anyone any value. It's diminishing returns.
I'm seeing a trend here it feels like, after 94 came the dark days and Messier was not fun, took 16 years to eventually get back there and fans still question the GM for how he did it. Last year watching some games got a dark days vibe again, at least no toxic players like Messier, but it definitely got a dark days vibe watching them a bit this year and did not like that. We're 10 years past our last opportunity, and we're still not a playoff team, at least the last time they went through this they we're a playoff team for a while before 2011, I'm not seeing that this time yet....
Let's take a look at how Benning really matches up, imo it's horrible.
Pat Quinn 10 years
Stanley Cup Appearance
1 Conference title
2 Division titles
7 Playoff appearances
Brian Burke 6 years
1 Division title
4 Playoff appearances
Mike Gillis 6 years
Stanley Cup appearance
2 President Trophies
1 Conference title
5 Division titles
5 Playoff appearances
Jim Benning 7 years and counting...
2 playoff appearances
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20 hours ago, knucklehead91 said:
It would be nice if we didnt have to rely on Edler for the big minutes like we did pretty much all season. If we could sign him for less than 3mil and move him to a 4/5 spot and have him take on a bit of a lesser role but still be capable of shutting down guys, I feel like that would put our back end in a very good position. He is still a solid dman and plays some really tough minutes, if someone came in and took over his role and bumped him down the bench a bit, it would be great for us
He's a 6/7 guy, his body needs rest more, he probably would look better if he played every 2nd game and stayed more fresh that way tbh, he's being relied on here way too much and he's just not that same player he once was, you just can't rely on him for those big minutes anymore and expect him to play at a top level all the time, he just can't do that anymore.
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21 hours ago, gurn said:
People are talking about no change to the defense, I've just given multiple changes, some that have already happened, others that are likely.
Why do you include Myers and Schmidt when I'd previously mentioned them as possible moves, one through ED and the other via trade?
"Canucks relied on those guys you mentioned last year instead...." Who the heck said that?
Why do I include them? Because they're still here, come on man really.... Until their actually gone gone, then the guys you listed would have meaning, but until then nothing is changed until their gone.
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Benning is also doubling down today it seems and has said Schmidt is not being traded.
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1 minute ago, gurn said:
Jordie Benn is gone
Rafferty is likely gone
Brisebois is likely gone
Jaden Chatfield will not be getting 18 games this season
Ollie and Rathbone will be getting more games
Looks like a fair bit of change right there.
So Myers, Schmidt, Hughes, Hamonic, Edler none of those guys, Canucks relied on those guys you mentioned last year instead....
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21 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Whether he can be relied on for big minutes and whether he's retained to play big minutes are two different things. But yeah, that's tough to puzzle out.
Teams like to, you know, have players who can step up and eat minutes in case injuries happen and yadda yadda yadda. But that's nothing to worry about as the Canucks organization has a long history of being extremely healthy throughout the season.
Yeah this franchise is so lucky that guys like Edler never get hurt.... I'm just totally against relying on Edler anymore, the amount of brain farts he does at the blueline for the past 5-6 years has been a struggle to watch, and because every year he gets slower and slower he just can't catch those guys anymore who steal the puck from him at the blueline all the time. Then what does Edler do... he hooks them all the time because he's way to slow and can't catch them anymore and then just takes a penalty to hurt the team for another 2 minutes, thats not helping the team at all. This isn't a once in a blue moon thing either, this is something that has been happening for years but we continue to accept it as okay, this is garbage, and why it's time to move on and find someone new.
Why not just bring Luongo back and play, might as well tell the Sedins to suit up and play, heck take Burrows away from his coaching gig and tell him to suit up, this team obviously could care less about improving and is content with sticking with old mediocre players, so might as well bring them all back while we're at it.
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1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:
You had to expect a reaction from this board Chuck.
Bruce was wrong! Boards *do hit back*.
I let everyone know at the end of the season Chuck Norris doesn't care anymore.
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6 hours ago, rekker said:
Big mistake by the Leafs letting this happen. Trade Nylander to open up some cap for a real player like Hyman. Or even the unspeakable. Trade AM. Trade AM for a decent young center plus, plus, plus. They would be better off with a home run return for AM. He can shoot, but is easily one of the more overhyped players in the NHL imho.
Nylander and Spezza were the 2 who decided to play in the playoffs this year, it would be a mistake moving Nylander I think, they have to move one of the big 3 imo, those 3 are taking up way too much cap space, they have to move 1 of them I believe.
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41 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
With more minutes for OJ and Rathbone, under a real coach who can minimize how badly Baumgartner is able to sabotage the team. See what the kids can do and fill holes next offseason when we have the space to do so.
If Green allows it
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26 minutes ago, gurn said:
No it doesn't.
Hamonic and Edler back is 2 out of 6 or 7 spots.
Hughes makes 3.
Meyers, might be back or might get picked up in ED
Schmidt may get traded.
Lots of time left before they play again.
Well it pretty much does if no one is moved or picked up
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33 minutes ago, Coconuts said:
Most who welcome the idea of him being retained have said they'd be fine with a short term, small-cap deal, and expect he'd be playing a 4-6D role
People are saying he's still a valuable player on the right contract, not that he should be a 1-3D
Funny when I said yesterday he can't be relied on for big minutes seems like everyone here wants to facepalm me for saying that, so they must be excepting him to play big minutes then still if they disagree with me saying he can't play big minutes...
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12 minutes ago, The Lock said:
Like I've said, I can see where the frustration comes in. I'm not anti-Benning though at this point as I haven't really seen anything lately that's made me question things so I guess I'm hopeful that he's learned. I guess I'm more on the fence than anything.
It still goes to show though that Tanev didn't go for nothing, partially caused by a series of contracts that proved to be too expensive in the end. Although, perhaps it was more the term than anything as ideally if those contracts were over at this point they wouldn't even be a problem.
His drafting has helped keep some people at ease with him, but I even question some of those now tbh, I feel they're just undersized a bit, obviously time will tell, but his player acquisitions have been very bad over the years, and the Toffoli thing was kind of the nail in the caufin imo, but I guess Benning is like a cat and gets 9 lives here.
Vasily Podkolzin | #92 | RW
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Is this guy over hyped a bit? I decided to look at his stats for this year, and what shocked me was to see Linden Vey out performed Podz this year, by quite a bit and Linden Vey isn't anything special so what does that say about Podz....