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2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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I could see Benning doing it because one of his 3 players will probably be there at 7. I don't know if NYR would give up a 21OA just to move up 2 spots though. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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Everything is happening!!! This is shaping up to be a fun day. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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Things are happening... -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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Do you think they're looking for a Dman to take over for Keith in a couple of years? -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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I could only find a facebook link. https://www.facebook.com/Canucks/videos/10155380255542145/ -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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Who does Jim Benning want?: Dissecting his Comments on Draft-Eligible Prospects JUNE 20, 2017, 10:00 AM | VANESSA JANG With the NHL Entry Draft just days away, there’s been significant debate over who will go where after the second pick. Unlike the past few drafts, only the top two picks have been a consensus. After Nico Hischier and Nolan Patrick, there’s a handful of centres and three defencemen whose draft order can go anywhere. Towards the latter half of the season, Canucks general manager Jim Benning made his draft needs public: a playmaking centreman or power-play defenseman. Over the past week, Ryan Biech has been writing prospect profiles for Canucks.com that contained a brief video of Benning describing specific players. Further, Ben Kuzma of Post Media spoke with the Canucks GM in his Top Five at Five series. Driven by anxiousness, excitement, and curiosity, I’m dissecting Benning’s comments simply to find out if there are any hints that he’s unknowingly leaving behind. I do want to stress that this is merely speculation and I could be completely off base in my thoughts. There’s a lot of material to analyze, so let’s get started! Cody Glass Benning: “Cody’s a guy that has real good intangibles. He’s a playmaking centreman, but when we talk about the hard work and intensity and willingness to compete, he does all those things too. He’s a well-rounded two-way player.” (via Canucks.com) Benning: “He plays in all three zones – he’s a complete player. When he has the puck, he makes his touches count and has a high rate of execution. He’s in the group of five or six guys who will fill our need for a playmaking centre – a guy who can make his wingers better by creating with vision and anticipation.” (via The Province) I think Cody Glass is his guy and this is my reasoning: Benning called him a playmaking centre. This point is obvious because he’s said on numerous occasions that a playmaking centre is what he would target. Benning listed the qualities that make him a playmaking centre. I believe this is significant because he’s never openly spoken about what he’s looking for in that centre, let alone named a player who possesses those traits. By saying “He’s in the group who will fill our need,” Benning essentially admitted that they’d take a hard look at him – something he hasn’t said about any other player. Benning mentioned the intangibles, and we all know how much this organization loves intangibles. The Canucks flew him to Vancouver after the Combine. The key idea to take out of Benning’s comments is that his playmaking centre is a player “Who can make his wingers better by creating with vision and anticipation.” If that’s how Benning describes his ideal centreman in the Kuzma interview, it’s likely that he does the same during scouting meetings. And if vision and anticipation are what come to mind when he speaks about Glass, a strong case can be made that he’s the guy the Canucks are targeting at number five. Elias Pettersson Benning: “He’s very skilled. He has real good vision of the ice, good hands. He had a real good year playing in the Allsvenskan. He’s going to need some time getting the physical strength, but he has all the tools to be a good player.” (via Canucks.com) Benning on Pettersson: “His offensive skill and his playmaking abilities are his best assets. It’s his vision on the ice and how he can anticipate plays. He’s a tall, thin kid and will have to put on some weight and strength before he’s ready to play, but he’s a smart player.” (via The Province) The Elias Pettersson interest has picked up over the past few weeks, mainly due to News 1130’s Rick Dhaliwal’s report that he had also flown to Vancouver after the Combine. Projected throughout the season to go in the middle of the first round, it’s no secret that he needs to add weight to his tall, but slim frame. For the Canucks, they might see him as a possible gem who others would rank much higher should he be twenty pounds heavier. Again, Benning went on to include the words “vision” and “anticipate” when describing Pettersson’s game – the two words he used to describe the playmaking centre he was looking to draft. This appears noteworthy because it seems the Canucks might be including him in the same tier as Cody Glass. They see the promise and potential, but all that’s missing is the strength. Don’t be surprised if the Canucks shoot for the stars and select Pettersson fifth overall. Casey Mittelstadt Benning: “When you talk about Casey, it’s about his offensive skill – his ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone and his release on his shot. He’s got a high-end release and has good accuracy to pick the corners.” (via Canucks.com) Benning: “It’s his flair for the offensive game and he’s one of those big-play players who can make a difference. He’s really good on the power play and carrying the puck through the neutral zone. He sees all the players on the ice and has a good release on his shot, too.” (via The Province) Casey Mittelstadt is a player who’s been speculated to be the player that the Canucks are targeting. Benning had personally taken a trip to watch him play in Green Bay, but frankly, that’s all we’ve heard with regards to the Minnesota-native. Unlike Glass and Pettersson, Mittelstadt did not make a trip to Vancouver after the Combine. NCAA rules forbid NHL teams from covering the expenses of their amateur players, which means he would’ve had to pay for it himself. Frankly, it’s hard to combine his comments above with a personal visit to Wisconsin and automatically come to the conclusion that Mittelstadt is their target. It could definitely be a possibility, but I’m sure Benning has also gotten his good share of views on Glass and Pettersson as well. Mittelstadt has fallen out of favour with many after the lack of upper-body strength he displayed at the Combine, but it’s unknown whether or not that’s a significant factor for the Canucks. Despite the results, some scouting reports indicate that he’s a non-stop player who’s consistent and always involved in the play – something that the Canucks might prioritize over his failure to do a pull-up. If vision and anticipation are what first come to mind when Benning speaks of a playmaking centre, then Glass and Pettersson are going to be at the top of their list. Why not Mittelstadt? Simply because the Canucks GM didn’t explicitly mention those qualities when describing his game. Benning placed emphasis on his offensive skill – specifically his shot, not his playmaking ability. Gabriel Vilardi Benning: “He protects the puck well and makes good plays with the puck. He has the size and strength to get to the net. He plays a power-forward style of game.” (via Canucks.com) Benning: “It’s his size and strength. His ability to protect the puck is his biggest asset. You see some of the bigger players in our division and how they buy time – that’s Vilardi’s big asset from the top of the (faceoff) circle down to get to the net. He also has a high-end release on his shot and he’s an interesting guy because he’s got a pro body already.” (via Vancouver Sun) I believe Vilardi isn’t as serious of a consideration as the three players above are. Not only have there been minimal (if any) rumours connecting him to the Canucks, but Benning’s description of him doesn’t exactly scream “playmaker”. Rather than highlighting his vision and offensive skills, Benning pointed to Vilardi’s size and strength as the reasons why he’s considered a top prospect. Whether it’s due to his Memorial Cup win with Windsor or his combination of size and skill, Vilardi has become an attractive option for many Canucks fans. Judging by Benning’s comments, he appears to be a player leaning more towards a Jake Virtanen-style of play rather than Henrik Sedin. The Defensemen Benning on Timothy Liljegren: “It’s the physical skills. For his size and strength – his ability to skate, transport the puck up the ice, his shot from the point on the power-play – he could develop into a real good NHL player.” (via Canucks.com) Benning on Miro Heiskanen: “When you talk about Miro, it’s his hockey sense. He’s a real good two-way player, he moves the puck well, and he has good positioning defensively. He played in the Finnish Elite League all year and didn’t look out of place.” (via Canucks.com) It’s been clear since February that Benning speaks very highly of Timothy Liljegren – higher than many others do. Although it was reported that the Canucks did not interview him at the Combine, it’s likely that they already had enough information to know they wanted him. Described by Benning himself as a potential power-play defenseman, I have no doubt whatsoever that Timothy Liljegren is the No. 1 defenseman on their list. Twitter Ads info and privacy Twitter Ads info and privacy Twitter Ads info and privacy Picking third and fourth respectively, both Dallas and Colorado have a dire weakness on the blueline. With Dallas being in a “win now” mode, the obvious choice would be to take an NHL-ready blueliner. I don’t claim to know their draft list, nor can I speak for them when I make this assumption, but I do want to point something out. If Dallas forgoes a defenseman and goes by their best player available, they’ve shown by taking Riley Tufte last year that they’re not afraid to draft a player out of high school. The weaker competition shouldn’t phase the Stars when deciding where to rank Mittelstadt on their list In his past few interviews, most significantly with Pierre LeBrun, it appears Benning has put more emphasis on a centre rather than defenseman. As opposed to last year where Olli Juolevi was next on their list after Pierre-Luc Dubois, the Canucks might have two centres ahead of their first blueliner. I’m led to believe that their draft list goes as follows: Centre>Centre>Defenseman>Centre OR Centre>Defenseman>Centre>Centre Benning wouldn’t mention a defenseman as a possible draft target unless there were a legitimate possibility that they’d draft one, and this could only happen in a situation where the centre(s) they have ahead of the blueliner are taken. It’s the same situation as last year. If the Canucks were targeting Matthew Tkachuk if Dubois was taken, Benning wouldn’t have said they had a blueliner as a possible target. Because he did say that, however, it became fairly clear they were drafting a defenseman if their target was gone. I’m almost certain when I say the Canucks’ first choice is a centre, and I’m merely basing this off Benning’s emphasis for a centre. Hopefully, this table breaks down my scrambled logic: It ultimately all comes down to whether the Canucks have one or two centres ahead of (probably) Liljegren. If they have two, they’ll likely finish the day with one of them unless Dallas and Colorado both take the forwards that Vancouver had at No. 1 and 2. If the Canucks have just one centre ahead of Liljegren, then the likelihood of him becoming a Vancouver Canuck increases significantly. That situation would occur if one of Dallas or Colorado take a forward and the other takes a defenseman, and then the forward taken would have to be the one centreman the Canucks has ahead of Liljegren. As you can see, there are many different ways that picks three to five can unfold. I want to reiterate that I’m purely speculating. I could be completely wrong, so I wouldn’t put all your eggs in one basket and trust that what I’m saying is written in stone. If I’m correct, then you heard it here first! https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/20/who-does-jim-benning-want-dissecting-his-comments-on-draft-eligible-prospects/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
I'd call this place a support group, but all it really does is enable us. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
That's been my mindset for the past month... I have a problem. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
I appreciate you. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
I'm sorry, I know this is more geared to the expansion draft as opposed to the entry draft but I couldn't find a dedicated expansion draft thread. Anyways, I've been looking into the rules surrounding the roster freeze and I was hoping someone could clarify something for me. June 16: This is last chance for general managers to place players on waivers before the Expansion Draft/Trade freeze. Meanwhile, players asked to waive their protection to accommodate the expansion strategy have until 5 p.m. ET to agree. June 17: The freeze commences. Non-expansion teams simultaneously submit their protected lists, which puts a full stop on activity outside the Vegas boardroom. https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/6/7/15750448/nhl-releases-updated-information-about-expansion-draft-dates Does the roster freeze start at midnight tonight? I can't find anything showing a specific deadline. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Warning! Controversial opinion below! -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Looks like TSN accidentally posted Bob McKenzie's top 100 prospects for the 2017 draft (supposed to be released on Monday). The link has since been taken down, but someone got a screenshot before hand. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Thanks babe -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
It's the off season, so I'll rationalize that as doing good lol. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Bigturk8 replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
I did good? -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
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Herein lies the problem though. I want to stress that I'm not calling you a liar, because for all I know, you could very well be telling the truth, but I cannot take you at your word on something like this without any actual proof. There has never been any evidence that he was calling the shots. While a lot of signs point to it and I believe he probably was, I think it's irresponsible to say so definitively based on "people who know people" statements from strangers on the internet.
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CANUCKS’ TOP 10 PROSPECTS: GUILLAUME BRISEBOIS 1Canucks’ Top 10 Prospects 2017 2Counting down Canucks' top prospects: No. 10 – Jake Virtanen 3Canucks' Top 10 Prospects: Will Lockwood 4 Canucks' Top 10 Prospects: Guillaume Brisebois Hitting in a third round of any National Hockey League Entry Draft is brutally tough. It’s among the reasons Nikita Tryamkin’s departure to the KHL hurt so much. The Canucks finally nailed the right pick in a middle round, and ended up losing the player for nothing in return. But Tryamkin’s parting isn’t all bad. A young man that size doesn’t exit without opening a door. And the gap could be wide enough for one of the Canucks’ developing defencemen to sway into focus. Enter rangy, mature and smart Guillaume Brisebois. The player taken with the third-round pick acquired in the Eddie Lack trade is no sure thing. But he’s shown enough top-four upside this past season to slot in here at eighth in a rundown of the Canucks’ top 10 prospects. Vancouver Canucks prospect Guillaume Brisebois. ‘More desperation’ Brisebois took some hits at the Young Stars tournament in September and they weren’t all on the ice. Vancouver GM Jim Benning basically called him out for being soft, pointing out Brisebois needed “more desperation” and “urgency” in the way he played defence. This is usually code for a player not being tough enough. It’s true that Brisebois, who measured at nearly 6-3 in the fall after being 6-1 heading into the 2015 draft, did get rolled, or easily outmanoeuvred, by forwards nearly half-a-foot shorter. That was troubling. Brisebois got into a preseason game last September. At the time, Travis Green suggested Brisebois watch a whole lot of Alex Edler video to figure out how to box players out, especially around the net. It seemed at the time to be some sound advice for a defenceman who was looking really raw. The good news: Brisebois apparently got the message; because he followed up his Young Stars and training camp experiences with his best season in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. He kind of broke out offensively and was among the final cuts for Team Canada’s World Junior Championship teams. Top 10 prospects countdown: Guillaume Brisebois 2:32 Point total jumped What several scouts like is his point total, which jumped from 26 to 47, but the Canucks seemed most thrilled about his improvement in, um, that urgency. If Brisebois happens to pan out this season in the pros, some credit will need to go to Vancouver development coach Scott Walker. Guillaume Brisebois was selected 66th overall by the Canucks at the 2015 NHL Entry Draft. “He did good work with him and he got him playing with more conviction defensively,” Benning said. “We drafted him because we liked his ability to get back and transition the puck up the ice. His overall game, his ability to skate and move the puck up, that is his strength. But he needed to play with more conviction. “Scott would work with him on the ice in practices and as the year went on, we have seen the conviction in his play improve. You can see it in the way he’s boxing guys out. He’s been more physical. “The things that he has done well in the past, he’s still doing those things. But he’s playing harder. That will serve him well moving forward.” Brisebois is one of those prospects who scouts love to point out his character. At 17 years of age, he was named captain of his junior team, Acadie-Bathurst. He was traded last year and wasn’t even with Charlottetown for two months before his new teammates voted him the captain. So, the leadership qualities are there, but is he physically ready to play in the AHL this season? “He’ll come to training camp so we’ll see where he’s at, but I would think development-wise, he’ll be playing in Utica,” Benning said. “He needs to keep developing.” This will be a big season for him in Utica. GUILLAUME BRISEBOIS Age: 19 (turns 20 in July, which makes him AHL eligible next season) Canucks Prospects Ranking: 8 Last season: Final Team Canada cut on their World Junior Championship team. He put up 47 points in 61 games leading the defence on his Charlottetown Islanders. The skinny: Brisebois apparently grew an inch or two last summer and his game on the ice seemed to grow even more. Brisebois became a legitimate prospect and the Canucks have him earmarked for Utica this fall. jbotchford@postmedia.com http://theprovince.com/feature/canucks-top-10-prospects-2017/canucks-top-10-prospects-guillaume-brisebois
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40 minute interview with Brock on UND radio after returning to finish out his semester. http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=211574694
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Utica should be fun to watch next year. I think Brisebois is bound for the Comets as well. If Zhukenov joins and Virtanen spends another year there, there's gonna be a lot to watch.
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Is he eligible for the AHL next year?
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I think his hits come from the strength in his legs more than anything else. It's nice to have some weight behind it, but I don't think it's the driving factor.
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Sacrifice, love and uncommon maturity: Brock Boeser's NHL arrival a 'bigger-than-hockey moment' IAIN MACINTYRE More from Iain MacIntyre Published on: March 29, 2017 | Last Updated: March 29, 2017 1:30 PM PDT Brock Boeser of the Vancouver Canucks is checked by Kevin Bieksa during in a game at Rogers Arena Tuesday, March 28, 2017 in Vancouver. JEFF VINNICK / GETTY IMAGES SHAREADJUSTCOMMENTPRINT As coach Willie Desjardins poignantly described it, Brock Boeser wasn’t the only one from his family who made it to the National Hockey League last weekend. His parents, Laurie and Duke, made it, too. It was as much for them as for their son that Desjardins handed the Boesers the starting lineup outside the Vancouver Canucks’ dressing room in St. Paul, Minn., on Saturday and asked Duke to read the names aloud to the players inside. “He greeted us in the hallway and said, ‘Well, Mr. Boeser, I’d like you to read the lineup,’” Laurie told us. “My husband said, ‘No, no, I can’t.’ And Willie said, ‘Sure, you can.’ We practised out in the hallway, and then were invited into the locker-room, which was amazing to see all these young men, professional hockey players with smiles on their faces.” And their baby, Brock, the youngest of the three children the couple raised in Burnsville, Minn., sat among the Canucks. The 20-year-old, whisked straight into the NHL from the University of North Dakota, was fighting back tears when Duke read his name. “That opportunity to walk into the locker-room — and Brock was surprised — and for his dad to read (the lineup), that was amazing,” Laurie Boeser said Monday. “Oh, my gosh, that is something we’ll just cherish. “We have that lineup, and he gave me his jersey from the game. And of course the puck from his first goal; we have that already on display in our china cabinet. There were so many things from that day.” So many things from so many days for the Boesers. You probably have heard by now that Duke Boeser was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease in 2010, and that his condition was exacerbated by a brain injury suffered in a car accident a couple of years later. Duke has been unable to work. You may remember also — it was written here on Brock Boeser’s draft night two years ago — that some of the winger’s closest friends from high school were involved in a car accident in 2014 when Brock was in Europe with the United States under-17 team. A good buddy, Ty Alyea, was killed and another close friend and high school hockey teammate, Cole Borchardt, suffered permanent injuries. Chances are Brock would have been in that car, too, had he been home. RELATED Ed Willes: Canucks' fast-tracking of Boeser reeks of desperation Ducks 4 Canucks 1: Boeser still creates a buzz in lopsided loss But the stories about Laurie Boeser working two jobs to support her family are inaccurate. She actually has three jobs, working seasonally in a tax office during tax-return time, as well as administrative work for an orthopedics company and serving in a restaurant. So Desjardins knew what he was doing last Saturday when he honoured the Boesers — all of the Boesers. “I think there’s lots of things that are bigger than hockey,” Desjardins said Tuesday. “And I just think that’s a bigger-than-hockey-moment. “I thought it was special. I didn’t think it was just his parents. For me … it was a reflection to all parents. Every one of us in that room knew we don’t get there unless our parents sacrificed a lot.” Brock Boeser gets hugs from family after being chosen 23rd overall by the Vancouver Canucks during the 2015 NHL Draft. His mom, Laurie, is at right. LARRY BUSACCA / (CREDIT TOO LONG, SEE CAPTION) Asked about her sacrifices the last several years, Laurie Boeser said: “I’m not going to lie; it has been a challenge. But you know, you just do what you have to do for your family. “Brock has had some life scenarios where he had to be older than I wanted him to be, like when he lost his friend in that car accident in high school, and another friend had permanent injuries. And he lost grandparents. And his dad was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease. “He had a maturity about him, anyway, but then had to endure some of those things at a pretty young age. When you have experiences like that, you can’t help but grow as you deal with them.” Now three games into his NHL career, there are a lot of things rushing towards Brock Boeser — intense scrutiny, a lot of money and probably fame, among other things. But having dealt with so much as a teenager, having to be older than his age, has probably given Boeser the perspective and maturity to handle these things. This is, after all, the good stuff. He badly wants to make the Canucks next fall because, well, which young hockey player doesn’t? But he wants to make it also because playing for the Canucks means an NHL salary, and an NHL salary means helping his folks a little. “When I made my decision (to leave university), I thought of that a little bit,” Boeser said. “When I get a full season — hopefully, make the team next year — I’m really looking forward to helping them out. “My dad has been so strong through Parkinson’s and my mom has had a couple of jobs all the time and helped our family any way she could. She’s a great lady.” Laurie and Duke are seeing Vancouver for the first time. They’ll watch Brock play here Friday against the Los Angeles Kings and Sunday versus the San Jose Sharks. The Boesers are still glowing from last weekend, when their family and friends filled a suite at the Xcel Energy Center in Minnesota and watched their son score the winning goal near his hometown in his first game for the Canucks. “We’re still pinching ourselves,” Laurie said. “You can’t even imagine this. “Absolutely, there was emotion. I was sharing with friends how Brock used to put on these little roller skates where you put your shoes in them — these little Ninja Turtle skates that his brother had. He’d strap them on and put his little helmet on. You think back to those days, and now here he is with the opportunity of a lifetime. You’re so happy and proud of him, but he’s also moving on to adulthood. There’s that realization he’s now a young man.” His parents’ son. http://vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/sacrifice-love-and-uncommon-maturity-brock-boesers-nhl-arrival-a-bigger-than-hockey-moment
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Bachman being there might not be the best thing. Demko's been on a tear since Bachman was called up an he became the starter.