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Canucks are not ready for this game. Not sure if it is reasonable to expect them to be ready.... this is a tough opponent. The team has to elevate their game again - if they can! A lot of teams take years to be able to play playoff winning hockey consistently. u don’t seriously think this team will win 12 straight cups do u? They can win a few during that span - with a lot of work and learning and player acquisition. there is so much to learn. This team isn’t used to taking a pounding. They don’t have the size. They need to win by taking hits and making plays.... take the punishment and win anyways
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Haha louis has the option to null his contract - and then sign with anyone. He is still a serviceable NHL player, albeit on the tail end of a career. he doesn’t want to do that because of the cash coming to him. Hard to give up millions - cause he will never get another contract even close to what he has now. so he would rather not play and get paid... than play and get paid less. End of this year he has a bonus? Maybe at that time? Or is it effectively a retirement? whatever. The fire is gone - he is done. I assume he could be used if the Canucks are rife with injuries... but even then I’m not sure. He has kind of burnt his bridges and may be done even if he wants to play. As I’ve said before - was worth a shot. If he had light it up with the Sedins and we made a cup run it would have paid off.... it was always supposed to suck at this end of the contract (as it often does for most late 20s FA signing long big contracts) if we could have gotten him a few years earlier it would have been fun to watch
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OJ shouldn’t have been taken 5th.... this was in JBs first few years here when he was still afflicted with the Canucks drafting curse. OJ still has a chance - just wait and see. U can’t win em all but maybe we still have a chance to get a decent defense piece out of it.
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Where does Tryamkin fit if he returns this season?
canucksnihilist replied to cuporbust's topic in Canucks Talk
Tanev and Edler are going to be injured... just like every other season. so... of course there will be room on the top 4 and really he is a better option over the next 4 years than either Tanev or Edler.... who are a bit long in the tooth. It would be better to reduce their ice time, get more out of them, and put Tryamkin in a top 4 role. of course the real question is his performance. If he deserves to be top 4 he will - that is the reality -
A proven player for an unproven one... logic. Why is it it so hard to see?
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Lol I’m not that invested in it. Settle down haha just pointing out the logic of trading for a pick. Most at 8 make it... but it was a risk. We should have got more at the time but whatever.
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The trade was for a pick.... can’t see how the outcome of the pick makes a difference in analyzing the original trade... it could have been a player like Jordan Schroeder or Patrick white. Luck plays a role in making a right pick
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The bottom 6 could be a problem. Most teams have a 3rd line that can score - we are using it to place unreadable players no team would want.... (for their salary). To really succeed there must be a meritocracy. We will see how the season unfolds... but the first game isn’t looking good for that 3rd line.
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Monthly prospect report (province)
canucksnihilist replied to canucksnihilist's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Raptis is the writer of the report -
Monthly prospect report (province)
canucksnihilist replied to canucksnihilist's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Well the name might change based on who writes it. haha. But I find this monthly analysis while not perfect is some useful reading imho -
https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-prospects-tracker-focht-nabs-first-star-honours-in-fine-week
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Well there is this... https://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054 quite interesting and perhaps this is what you were referring to? however I would point out that elite players peak in the late 20s.... sutter is not elite. And he is at the twilight of his career.
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Really? https://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nhl/analyzing-the-average-age-of-stanley-cup-winning-teams.aspx The median age is 26. So not sure where you are getting your facts from. Sutter is 30/31 - and he has slowed down. Dramatically this last year, he is not the same player he was a few years ago.
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If there is a meritocracy at camp, Gaudette is in. Eriksson and Sutter are in the twilight of their careers. Useful vets but I question their drive and motivation.... last year both were floating way too often, and that isn’t the veteran example that they should be sending to the young players. They need a kick in the ass. Send them to Utica and hope that lights a fire under their asses - and hopefully they become what we want: solid vets that set a good example. If they make the team right now it is a negative message
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Boeser & Fantenberg are both in concussion protocol,
canucksnihilist replied to kilgore's topic in Canucks Talk
Anyone who thinks the rules are going to protect players... is delusional. the players on a team need to accept the instigator, push back, and count on their penalty kill. This is the only recourse as the rules are a joke... teams like Boston realized this a long time ago. The Canucks still don’t. There is no leadership on the team obviously. the rules are just too lenient to be effective. Give a perpetrator of a head shot 5 games without pay. Then 10, 15, etc. That will hit them in the pocket book. And it will stop. Donate their salary to a charity for the time they are put. the nhl is hurting themselves by not fixing this - people want to see talent. When there are so many concussions it hurts the game and their bottom line. Of all teams. Or u subscribe to the gladiator approach. That it isn’t talent alone we want to see but a spectacle - that a display of talent or fighting or hits or goals or speed is what we want. And u may be right.... -
[Official] 2019 Training Camp Thread
canucksnihilist replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Malholtra before his eye injury was all you could hope for from a 3rd linenplayer -
Benning trying to get to "common ground" with Boeser
canucksnihilist replied to BrockBoester's topic in Canucks Talk
Well what really happens is that the agent advises the player to cash in. That this might be the last contract you ever get. Injuries happen and forced retirement happens. It’s a dangerous game with no guarantees. so to think that the agent and Brock are not working lock-step is a mistake. and now lots of RFAs are signing large deals. The Canucks have overspent in support, and this is only the first contract problem the team faces - what is it? Another 3 huge contract problems in the next few years? Maybe not but probably.... every core piece is going to want 8-10 million at least It is obvious the team didn’t expect the core to want large contracts in RFA. The salary structure isn’t geared around that. They were supposed to wait another 3/4 years.... I think the team has to adjust on the fly now, which is hard to do with contracts. Overpaying for support means that everyone expects to be overpaid.... It’s a tough situation. -
Benning trying to get to "common ground" with Boeser
canucksnihilist replied to BrockBoester's topic in Canucks Talk
Well as bob dylan said: the times they are a changin. If u haven’t noticed RFAs are getting paid like UFAs now... that is definitely the trend. -
Benning trying to get to "common ground" with Boeser
canucksnihilist replied to BrockBoester's topic in Canucks Talk
So tell me this: playing devils advocate.... If Meyers is 6 m per season, how is Boeser only worth 7? beagle gets a sweet deal - 3m. Sutter is 4.5.... LE is 6m seems like Boeser should be in the 9-10 m range or more based on the value of those other players and what they bring to the table. so... have we spent on the support and now can’t sign the core? This impass is a really bad sign imho -
Benning trying to get to "common ground" with Boeser
canucksnihilist replied to BrockBoester's topic in Canucks Talk
Don’t you mean driving one of those forklifts? -
Benning trying to get to "common ground" with Boeser
canucksnihilist replied to BrockBoester's topic in Canucks Talk
If 7m isn’t good enough for him then let him sit -
Don’t hate him for cashing in. a contract that pays you 6 million a season from age 31 to 37 is just stupid. But if someone is stupid enough to give it to you.... you yourself would be stupid not to accept it. the whole thing is stupid. Did I mention that? it seemed good at the time. It was potentially an Olympic level top line. A last chance to take a run with some of the old core. If it had succeeded it would have been great. It was always supposed to suck now 4 years in.... h can’t blame JB for taking a risk. Proven 30 goal scorer but a bit old... but seems to still score.... i liked this signing way better than I did Sutter and then Beagle. At least LE had a history of putting up some serious points.... i think he should be sent to Utica based on the competition in camp. He isn’t good enough anymore. But he used to be! He is just old for a hockey player now