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I just like to grab a bag of popcorn and enjoy the argument

I would probably give Virtanen a 9 for shot and I would give Ehlers 7.5 for shot. Virtanen's hockey IQ should be slightly higher than 6. Pretty decent list though

Giving up their pick this year would just be telling the fans to get ready for another garbage year

The funniest part was physical presence Virtanen - 9 Ritchie - 8

Ritchie actually has very good acceleration. His shot is much better than what you give him. How is Ehlers a 0 for faceoff? Ritchie's competitiveness should be higher. This list is just way too biased..

Defense can be taught. Wasn't Ovechkin said to be a 200ft player?

He kinda looks like a ghost in that picture o.o

Reinhart probably will but he's probably not ready. Ekblad will. Draisaitl will work on his skating in junior. Bennett will pack on some pounds in junior. Dal Colle will most likely spend some time in junior as well

yea I meant past top 10-15

they're not taking Demko top 5. If they do want him that badly, they would move down and at least get something out of it

please keep this lead. Please?

We must draft all of them

Who are you trying to prove this to? Nobody is questioning his potential or skill. Meanwhile, you're putting down others because they aren't Ehlers. I get blocked for calling you out on your bullsh*t and you continue to babble on things that don't even matter. Just give it a rest. Everything you're saying has been said countless times. I wasn't aware there's a stat to measure back-checking...

Grow up... he's not saying this to hurt you and you respond in a way to show your immaturity. This is a message board where we all have different opinions, yet your condescending attitude just makes you look like a fool, considering the points you make are stupid

Did you take too many hits? Because everything you say is stupid

Shhh just go along with his inability to read and his illogical points or he'll block you too

"childish nonsense"... All of your points come from misinterpretations of what I'm saying and your inabilty to read. Oh sorry I forgot, your opinion is the right opinion. My bad

1. Nothing was implied, I was offering 2 different looks our team can have 2. Who said Ritchie has the same offensive talent as Ehlers? Ritchie has things in his game that Ehlers doesn't have and vice verca. No, Ritchie will not put up 80 points in the NHL but is Ehlers ever going to have that physical dominance? They are completely different players and not one is better than the other. Just a matter of preference. 3. Kane was a unanimous 1st overall pick despite his size. He has talent that Ehlers does not have. Ehlers is nowhere close to the player Mackinnon is. Claude Giroux is coasting in the east with nobody even touching him. Don't compare thid line to the WCE... They aren't even close 4. kane has hands that Ehlers does not possess and is more methodical. However, Ehlers is faster. I brought up Lucic to make a point that the Kane and Ehlers comparison is far off Thanks for trying though

lol I really don't even know where to begin. 1. Nobody said Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian is better than Ehlers - Horvat - Kassian. Either I'm seeing things or you're hallucinating. 2. I never said Horvat's ceiling isn't very high. I said it isn't the highest, meaning he isn't going to be a massive point producing game breaker. He is a very good 2 way center, but keep your expectations realistic 3. Not sure who said kassian doesn't hit but again, either I'm missing something here or you're hallucinating. 4. You're just completely biased towards Ehlers. Ritchie brings completely different things to the table... "he has much less abilities than Ehlers" wow ok 5. West coast express was dominant a decade ago, get over yourself. The game has changed. Btw, Bert was the best power forward in the game. Moore was exhibit A. As to why you shouldn't touch naslund or morrison 6. If you want to bring up Kane, I'll bring up lucic. Neither comparisons are accurate but meh...

I fail to see the correlation between a guy drafted 15 years ago and an 18 year old kid. Tom Brady would tell you that it's what's in the inside the counts. They're completely different people and we don't know how Ritchie will make the jump. Just because Pyatt couldn't make the transition doesn't mean Ritchie can't.

Yes but Ritchie is very capable of scoring goals. I'm trying to see the good in your guy and I acknowledge his skill yet you compare Ritchie to Sestito and Pyatt...

Who's the biased one now... Ritchie possesses a very good shot and has very good vision. He can also bring the puck to the net. Horvat doesn't have the highest ceiling but has a decent shot and good vision. He's also money in the playoffs. Kassian is a very good passer and is a decent shooter. There's a reason why he was drafted in the first round. He's learning how to use his tools effectively. This line won't score highlight reel goals often but they all like to go to the net and score garbage goals.

slightly. Ehlers - Horvat - Kassian would mean there is a smaller guy on the left who doesn't hit. Horvat is rugged but doesn't hit often. Kassian hits. Ritchie - Horvat - kassian would mean two physical wingers and a guy in the middle who'll hold his own

Yea that sounds good but it depends on who the 1c would be. Hypothetically if it's Mcdavid, I would take Ritchie in a heartbeat. If our 1c is a guy like kesler, (not saying kesler but someone with that kind of build and production) I would take Ehlers without a doubt. Can't really go wrong with either though

I'm not saying it'll make the whole team smaller/bigger. I'm saying it'll push us towards an identity let me draw you a picture a few years down the road, post-sedin era Shinkaruk - xxx - Jensen Ehlers - Horvat - Kassian vs Shinkaruk - xxx -Jensen Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian vs Shinkaruk - Nylander - Jensen xxx - Horvat - Kassian 1. Oozes with skill, no physicality except for Kassian 2. Two lines that are completely different. First line is skilled while second line is monstrous 3. Highly skilled first line but will get run over. Second line tbd