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  1. He didn't go on long term because that would have hosed the team he played the longest for, the Florida Panthers.
  2. so true, Take these guys for example: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/led-zeppelins-10-boldest-rip-offs-223419/ " Decide for yourself who’s to blame: here are 10 cases when the band, at least initially, didn’t give other songwriters their due. 1. “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” This song, more than any other track on Led Zeppelin’s debut album, established their epic sweep. It was written by American folk singer Anne Bredon in the 1950s: Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, however, were fans of Joan Baez and knew the track from her 1962 album Joan Baez in Concert, Part 1. (Page has said that he learned the song “in the days of sitting in the darkness, playing my six-string behind Marianne Faithfull.”) Led Zeppelin credited the song as traditional (and gave arrangement credit to Page); in fairness to them, Baez’s album also mistakenly listed the song as traditional. Bredon was apparently unaware that Led Zeppelin had covered her song: When she found out in the Eighties, she agreed to split the royalties with the band, and is now listed as co-author. 2. “Dazed and Confused” Page also did this song with the Yardbirds, but the origin is actually singer-songwriter Jake Holmes, who included it on his 1967 album “The Above Ground Sound” of Jake Holmes. Page has claimed to be unaware of Holmes’ song, but the title and much of the music are unmistakably the same (Page rewrote most of the lyrics). Page apparently heard the song when Holmes opened for the Yardbirds at a Greenwich Village gig. For decades, Holmes declined to sue for authorship; as he put it, “I said, ‘What the hell, let him have it.'” In 2010, however, Holmes finally filed suit; the case was settled out of court and the 2012 Zeppelin live album Celebration Day credits the song as written by “Page; inspired by Jake Holmes.” 3. “Whole Lotta Love” When it came time for Plant to lay down vocals over Page’s guitar riff – one of the first times he ever contributed lyrics to a Zeppelin track–he quoted from “You Need Love,” a song written by Willie Dixon and sung by Muddy Waters in 1962. (Dixon sued in 1985, settled out of court, and is now listed as co-writer.) As Plant later described it, “I just thought, ‘Well, what am I going to sing?’ That was it, a nick. Now happily paid for. At the time, there was a lot of conversation about what to do. It was decided that it was so far away in time and influence that … Well, you only get caught when you’re successful. That’s the game.” It’s worth noting, however, that only seven years separate “You Need Love” and “Whole Lotta Love.” No tar. No smoke. No ash. Ad by Juul 4. “The Lemon Song” While the famous lemon-squeezing lyric dates back to Robert Johnson’s “Traveling Riverside Blues” (also covered by Zeppelin), this song owes more to Howlin’ Wolf’s “Killing Floor,” which the band had been playing live. A lawsuit soon ensued; as a result, on some pressings of Led Zeppelin II, the track is actually listed as “Killing Floor.” Ultimately, it reverted to the citrus title, and the band now credits Chester Burnett (Howlin’ Wolf’s real name) as co-author. 5. “Bring It on Home” The closing track on Led Zeppelin II is a Page/Plant composition bookended by quiet bluesy sections. Those bookends, fairly blatantly, are a cover of “Bring It on Home,” the Sonny Boy Williamson blues song written by Zep favorite Willie Dixon. Page complained, “The thing with ‘Bring It on Home,’ Christ, there’s only a tiny bit taken from Sonny Boy Williamson’s version and we threw that in as a tribute to him. People say, ‘Oh, “Bring It on Home” is stolen.’ Well, there’s only a little bit in the song that relates to anything that had gone before it.” However, those bookends are more than a “little bit” of the track: they form half its running time. On the live album How the West Was Won, released in 2003, the band designated their middle composition as “Bring It on Back” and gave appropriate credit to Dixon. 6. “Since I’ve Been Loving You” Another track with uncredited elements on loan from another song: In this case, some of the lyrics came from “Never,” released just two years earlier by one of Plant’s favorite bands, Moby Grape: “Working from 11 to 7 every night/Ought to make life a drag” became “Working from 7 to 11 every night/It really makes life a drag.” 7. “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp” Jimmy Page often cited Scottish folk musician Bert Jansch as an influence. So much so that two Zeppelin tracks bear strong similarities to recordings Jansch made: “Black Mountain Side” borrows heavily from “Down by Blackwaterside,” while “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp” is clearly a reworking of Jansch’s “The Waggoner’s Lad.” Jansch never sued: Although Page gave himself writing credits, the original material is based on folk melodies. But one of Jansch’s bandmates in Pentangle, Jacqui McShee complained, “It’s a very rude thing to do. Pinch somebody else’s thing and credit it to yourself.” No tar. No smoke. No ash. Ad by Juul 8. “Hats Off to (Roy) Harper” The last track on Led Zeppelin III, named in tribute to the band’s chum Roy Harper, throws together bits and pieces of various blues songs, most prominently Bukka White’s “Shake ‘Em on Down,” released in 1937. The band listed the author as “Traditional” and the arrangement as being by “Charles Obscure” (a pseudonym for Page). 9. “In My Time of Dying” This 11-minute Physical Graffiti track is credited to Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones and John Bonham, but it’s clearly the traditional gospel song that was recorded by many other people, starting with Blind Willie Johnson in 1927 (his version was called “Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed”) and including Bob Dylan in 1962 (he called it “In My Time of Dyin'” and made no claim on authorship). No lawsuit resulted: The song is in the public domain. 10. “Boogie With Stu” This excellent cover of Ritchie Valens’ song “Ooh My Head” was originally intended for Zeppelin’s fourth album with a title of “Sloppy Drunk.” Eventually released on Physical Graffiti, the song was credited to the four members of Led Zeppelin, plus titular pianist Ian Stewart, and “Mrs. Valens,” in an effort to get some royalties directly to the mother of the original singer, who had died in a 1959 plane crash. “Robert did lean on that lyric a bit,” Page conceded. “So what happens? They try to sue us for all the song!” he said indignantly, as if the band hadn’t borrowed the song’s melody wholesale. “We could not believe it.” Led Zeppelin’s Robert Plant took the stand to deny lifting Spirit’s “Taurus” for “Stairway to Heaven” in court. Watch here.
  3. He does not have a contract, thus he is not "holding out".
  4. something about that gals voice, was she only a one hit wonder or is there a few more songs I should look for?
  5. You do realize that drafting is not the only way to replace players right?
  6. Loui would save $1,075,000 Lievo $1,500,000 $2,575,000 in additional space not including a few bucks from replacing Motte with MacEwan and the like. Plus space from Roussell.
  7. Goldobin $900,000 Lievo $ 1,500,000 Motte $975,000 Eriksson would save a Million in capspace Are options as well.
  8. Rick was a very good reporter and then something changed.
  9. The media will/would just try to create some other crap storm, it is in their nature. In the old west a wagon train would go past a town, the town dogs would bark and bark, but the train just kept moving along.
  10. He has not missed a practice or the beginning of Training camp so I do not see any "hurt".
  11. It is payback for all the times you had to say "No" to her. No: You can't stick a fork in the power outlet You can't bath the cat Don't hit your brother Don't use roller skates in the house Etc.
  12. If true, just shows how stupid management can be. Two best reasons to go to, or watch a game, are those two. Take one away and lose some audience/money.
  13. Here is a story from 2016, that I had never seen, but it might yield a clue: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/tennis/cam-cole-genies-eating-disorder-no-thing-of-beauty/ar-BBtrypM " Perhaps the saddest of them, from a post-match interview Tuesday at the French Open: Canadian tennis star Eugenie Bouchard — who in a single year went from No. 7 in the world and being touted as the new face of women’s tennis to No. 46 and trying to make a comeback with yet another new coach — acknowledges that she has battled an eating disorder. She is 22 years old, still young enough to be self-conscious and insecure. And let’s not kid ourselves: commentators liked that she was darn good at tennis, but loved that she is blond, and gorgeous. She would not be unaware of that. Mounting expectations, declining results, stress … no doubt all contributed to her listless play, the turmoil within her circle, her inability to keep food down, which she now says she has overcome."
  14. So, you are saying you didn't read that somewhere? mmmm
  15. Cam retired 23 years ago, for the most part players have gotten bigger since then. So at 218 back then he was big, but 218 now would most likely make him just a bit bigger than average.
  16. Maybe it's because it is in the Showcase thread?
  17. Gurn

    Tennis

    She is free to cheer for who she wishes, afaic.
  18. Gurn

    Tennis

    I'm sure there were plenty of folk there that would be worth a watch.
  19. Gurn

    Tennis

    I'd pay money to watch that happen.
  20. Gurn

    Tennis

    Imo: She is among the greatest, till now, but who knows what the future holds.
  21. Had I actually been trolling you would have just proved me successful.
  22. you seem to be looking for an argument, may I direct you to this room?
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