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I think there is a reason they sent Lundqvist down, and brought up Schneider. But I think we(I) do focus on Schneider too much, which is why I brought up the others I think there is a big risk that we just don't know what we are looking at with all of those prospects.................is there someone better suited for us? IDNK
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I agree Fox is not a prospect any more..........for sure But he was when these trades went down, and a highly thought of one too! But in both cases, his refusal to sign made him less valuable to the trading team.......with lots of risk But he did get included, so there was lots of interest, even though everyone knew he wanted to sign in NY Calgary was drooling over him as a prospect Carolina was too, but all the players in the Calgary / Carolina trade were good players.it was a hockey trade............was just hoping on Fox
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Sorry Jim, not me! I want Schneider or nothing and that may be a deal breaker for the Rangers.........but there are other options out there I like what I have read about Barron, and I really like Grans, all though, I don't know alot about him....... I would be interested what LA would put together for Boeser..................Grans and a LA 1st? might be enough for me............LA, "if " they are to get in, will be an early exit so the pick should be a 16 to 20 pick IMHO I think when I look at that, I look at Nemec and Jiricek and see if I can move up and get one of them, if not I would look to take Chesley, but I would love to move up and get one of the other 2, as a 1st option I am sure JR has other idea's..............maybe someone more NHL ready? .....................IDNK
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I have heard a lot of good things about Barron, and would be interested in what kind of deal it would take to get him.......... On Schneider, I totally agree with you, and I hope I never said he would not be a top 4...........very much a Chris Tanev with size and more scoring I think he will settle in as a #3..a very solid number 3, who can play up...........
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Great comments Rick I am sort of the same corner as you on this...........I think he is a really good top of the A-prospect, and will be a very good complimentary player.........but not a driver And there is nothing wrong with that, and does not make him any less valuable I just think there are more Schneiders in this world that Fox's, hence the value to obtain is different Solid post....Thanks
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I think JR has wavered just a little from his very first comments, where he said we are too slow................ To para-phrase a little, I think he said something to the effect that "It did not have to be the stars that get moved" to make the necessary moves I am not sure that is wavering, but to me it had a different tone to it. I would not be surprised to see Hoglander being the high profile player moved for us...........I think it will be decided after JR has had a chance to talk to Boeser's, Miller's, and Motte's agents and has a chance to see if they fit in to the Cap. Hoglander, just seems to be the man out with BB. I see him being in the same category as Kasperi Kapanen, where he has talent, but is expendable. I could be wrong! A trade of Miller or Boeser is possible, but I think a trade of either will have to be a pretty damn good offer to have JR pull the trigger, especially with Miller.............. I see the possibility of trades happening in this order............. #1. Hoglander #2. Halak #3. Motte #4. Boeser $5. Miller Again, with the last 2 having to be Knock your socks off trade offers, not just for the sake of making a trade...... Maybe Poolman or Dickenson gets moved, but I do not see that being of any great return..............more a cap out type of thing Chaisson, for some darn reason is a BB type guy????? I hate him, but I guess every person has his whipping boy! Dickenson and Chaisson are mine!
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@Rick Blight @JamesB @flickyoursedin @JM_ So, this question all came about as part of a debate on HFB's where just about all NY Ranger fans are calling Schneider a Blue Chip prospect. I differ with them, as I have never seen him called that by anyone other then there own fan base. I will look no further than their own farm system where they had Fox, Lundqvist, and Schneider all come up in the past several years. So, I will agree with them that Schneider appears stronger than Lundqvist, but he is no where near in the same caliber as Fox. (and never was) I asked their fan base, when was Schneider ever deemed a Blue Chip prospect? they have never answered me. (LOL) I see Blue Chip as a special designation held for very elite players, ones who are really no brainer types, that will slide right into the line up their first year after turning pro, and will show very well right away........... they usually have a very complete game, and as a defenseman, usually are able to handle all scenario's Players I see as Blue Chip are, Fox, Maker, Hughes, Hiskanen, McAvoy probably Seider I deem Schneider in the next group down, as an A-prospect, where Carlo, Durzi, Marino, Barron, Lundqvist etc are placed. Now, I recognize that Blue Chip, A-prospect, B-prospect, etc are words used more for prospects than young pros that have played up, but I think you can use those designations for the first year or so, until they make the club full time. Schneider, for all his worth, just does not meet the qualifications of the first group, and never has. Schneider is in that second group. He may be near the top of that group, but I just do not see him reaching the Blue Chip status. More a complimentary type player. I bring this up as I try to put together a a scenario and trade with the Rangers, with Schneider in it. They are quite firm that he will not be moved as he is rare and a Blue Chip prospect.........I don't see it! So I was wondering if I had my definitions right or not....... As you know, I am usually pretty firm on my opinions, but I really started to wonder, if I had it wrong ???? Let me just slide back in again...........I see a A-prospect being a top 2 line, top 4 pairing type player, with Blue Chip being the elite types within those top players.
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I guess what I am saying is that, as a player develops he can move upward or downward, but he starts having a rating, and then he proceeds through his career with an up graded ranking, whether that be up , down or stationary..................but at present..............I think all the players ranked are at that level, and the ranking system works somewhat like that. But I am asking, not telling
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OK Lady's and Gents, I need help! Go figure, Mr. Know it all needs help! So these are players from teams that have multiple RHD young Dmen that "May" be available for trade. A definition for 1 ) Blue chip prospect .................for me this is the very top of the prospects that are expected to be Stars/Elite NHL players............Drivers 2 ) A - prospect ............................This group is solid 3/4 type Dmen.............not elite/not stars, but solid long term journeymen 3 ) B - prospect, ............................B - prospects are prospects that have a chance to to 5/6 Dmen with shorter careers and lesser minutes, one dimensional 4 ) C - prospect .............................these players are long shots, who may progress and be late bloomers, who may eek out a short NHL career I think I know, but would like your input to clarify! Then, if you would put some ranking to these prospects............again, I think I have it, but would not mind the input..............I will thank you know for your work! NYR...........................Braden Schneider......A prospect NYR...........................Nils Ludqvist..............A/B LA..............................Helge Grans...............B/A LA..............................Brock Faber................B/A LA..............................Brandt Clarke..............Blue Chip LA..............................Sean Durzi..................B/A COL...........................Justin Barron...............B/A COL............................Drew Helleson.............B/A Please have a go at it! I appreciate It! Regards J.I.A.H.N.
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[Proposal] I love 3-ways, don't you?
J.I.A.H.N replied to HKSR's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Well, I will say this.............all are really unproven at the NHL level But Clarke like Drysdale in Anaheim are blue chippers...........blue chippers are "suppose" to be 1st pairing game changers Whether that actually happens is the question.............but that is what is "suppose" to happen. -
[Proposal] I love 3-ways, don't you?
J.I.A.H.N replied to HKSR's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
I think Clarke is the only blue chip of the bunch............. -
[Proposal] I love 3-ways, don't you?
J.I.A.H.N replied to HKSR's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Sorry to ruin your dream, but I do not think LA gets enough here......probably NYR gets Miller LA gets Lundqvist, Rathbone, and Kratvsov Vancouver gets Clarke, Chytil, NYR 1st I still don't think LA does it, but that is closer..................... -
Maybe my English is not working very well....................I apologize, if I typed it wrong The Canucks can sign him anytime before July 1, 2022..........and no one else can( he is Canuck property) After June 30, 2022, he is a UFA, and anyone, including the Canucks can sign him as a UFA Sorry, if I was not clear. * I must say, I thought it was until August 1, 2022, but Cap friendly says it ends on June 30, 2022
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I have been wondering who has picked up on this and thought it note worthy............... A lot of times during proposals, people will spout out how teams never sign and then trade players Well Toffoli has played a total of 89 games with Montreal before being traded Do you think Montreal is worried about never getting another free agent? I hardly doubt it!
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JT Miller to Washington (Value of) (Discussion)
J.I.A.H.N replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
So, I guess Dhaliwal is keeping an eye on my posts, Heh! @mll Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSportsElliotte Friedman on Van interest in Pavel Zacha - I think the Canucks have interest in him but also keep and eye on Van and Washington, they are really struggling up front, could be something there. Donnie and Dhali -
JT Miller to Washington (Value of) (Discussion)
J.I.A.H.N replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
What about Lapierre (C), Iorio (RHD), and a 1st? -
JT Miller to Washington (Value of) (Discussion)
J.I.A.H.N replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Hammer! I am looking for proposals...............do you think there is one? If so, what do you have? -
JT Miller to Washington (Value of) (Discussion)
J.I.A.H.N replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
I do realize it is pretty much a futures based trade, but with Washington's core aging out, IMO, I think they may be willing to sell the farm. IMO, it is both Miller himself and the retention that should make this appealing to Washington -
Hi Canuck fans...here is what I posted on HFB's, and I wondered what may become of it on here? I did sugar coat it , to ease the trolls there, but here it is..................... Hi Washington fans!Just for the record, Vancouver loves OV ! So there is nothing you could say to us, that would change that!This is not a proposal, because I am not sure what your time line is, in accordance with OV's needs????I personally think JT Miller to you guys, really helps your Cup chances for this year and next.......................So would you be interested at Miller at 50% retained, and what would you give up? The thought is Millerretained is a cheap deal, and depending on who retires, there is the possibility that you re-sign him........Thoughts? Offers? I believe it would be a futures type of deal, with them, but I am not making a proposal as of yet.............I maybe do so later Do you have a proposal with them?
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