Pears

Would be foolish IMO. We still need to have a very strong record to make the playoffs and unless we find ourselves actually in a playoff spot by the TDL, we shouldn't be looking to substantially add. Even if we go 4-0 on this trip, we most likely will still be out of a playoff spot. I think many fans aren't realizing how hard it is to catch up once you're behind.

I do think we are a good enough team to make the playoffs overall (our record with Boudreau suggests as much), but given our horrible start, I'm not confident we're good enough to make up all that ground.

With what magical cap space? 

Even if they win it's still a treacherous path to the playoffs, they've got so little margin for error. Imagine buying only to miss out. 

agree, would look for a trade to improve bottom 6 or D...I would use Hogz, rathbone, Mcdonaugh, Jasek dipietro as a trade chip...who were you thinking of adding, I would just burn an asset on a UFA, a la JB and TTofu... interestingly Donnie and Dhalie had that rumour that Canucks called on Chychrun,  I must say, I was very happy to hear that. 

Would love to move out Dickinson, poolman but both injured, and Pearson, Hamonic have NTCs that go away at the end of the season (Pearson goes to 10 team NTC)

@Pears You're correct, but it can be surprisingly hard to catch a team when they're playing decently. Although we're only a few points behind, we need to play better than teams that are already pretty decent teams, so we need to play quite well to catch stronger teams. It would be easy to make up 5 points against teams like Arizona or Montreal, but teams like Edmonton, Anaheim, LA, and Dallas don't lose nearly as often, making it surprisingly difficult to pass them all.

I find that it becomes pretty clear what kind of level we need to play at when you do the actual calculations of what it takes. Currently, we need to play at about a .650 level for the remainder of the year to catch up to the bottom of the playoff line. It would become a lot easier if we went on a 5-game winning streak right now though.

With out how many teams involved and multiple with games in hand it is going to take some serious luck to squeak in. Could happen but I sure wouldn't wager on it. 

Odd are we're sellers at the deadline. 

I think it's worth noting that having games-in-hand is not necessarily a good thing with the compressed schedules caused by all the postponements.  Having played more games earlier in the season might actually work in the Canucks favour in this particular situation.  Some of the teams who haven't played as many games are going to be playing more than an average of one game every two days

Send 'em to China for a couple months. Maybe then they'll develop an appreciation for our democracy and rights and freedoms. 

Muh freedumbs

When they trot out Maxime Bernier, then you know it’s not about vaccines and mandates.  

yes, even the FBI is after us

owners want to have a full house revevue.

and to think, i thought it was omicron that caused it,  Grrr, Why did the  NHL have to meddle with a low tier team 

Obesity makes people higher risk for many illnesses, and makes a lot of matters worse.  

How did people stay trim before gyms?  Being round mounds is not because gyms are closed.  

Although personally I don’t get why gyms are closed but a bar would be.  

"Team needs" is a phrase he should look up.

Friedman stirring the pot, we don't need another top end LD. Sure, we could do it, but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. 

If he were a RD on the other hand, then he'd be onto something. I'm not interesting in messing with Hughes's mojo and shifting him over to the right. 

The Canuck Curse Continues.

Change the name to Grizzlies. 

Lol fits our narrative -- remember last season, when we were already mathematically eliminated, THEN we start stringing wins together, and our mini-series with Calgary (just before the post-season) became the consolation playoffs (even when we were just playing for pride)? 

This may basically be the exact opposite, and a potential momentum killer.     

May not be the worst thing in the world for us to get a bit of a break and get our defence healthy.  

If the Canucks are for real, they wouldn't let a slight break ruin their momentum.

So they can blast the awful goal song. 

It doesn’t even look like the same team

You have to play to the team's strengths.  Bruce Boudreau understands this.  Travis Green didn't (and he was given MORE than enough time to do so).  

The historical glance at Green's tenure will start to be viewed as almost a Bill Laforge-esque level of incompetence.

For 3 or 4 yrs, the whole F***ing fanbase "ran the gauntlet" whenever watching our guys try & perform. Sorta' like throwing a 10 kg backpack on some poor schmuck, then tell him to swim 5 km's

Did mr, Aqua actually say that?  I think he’s a really good owner, especially after those out of town losers he bought from, but (if this is him) he might be best just keeping quiet?  Or, maybe he like his scotch like old Alf, and drinking loosens his tongue?  Go get those ********** Mr. Weiner owner guy.  

good for him. Our local media are trash.

He’s earned redemption points for this that’s for sure. 

Unlike seemingly most people here, I just want my team to be good. That's all.

@kanucks25 you’re better at reporting fake Canucks trades. 

T'was not a report.

Now if only they'd stop trotting him out with the team entirely 

was he aware that the guy spent all that money?

Sounds like a Babcock move. Chelios. 

Stars got lit up 7-2. Should've just put Tufte in the lineup.

yeah I go to AA meetings but those people are drunks

Getting high school flashbacks over here

Yeah. Happens tho.

Like what? A trade should never be made to shake things up. Who's coming and who's going?

To MTL: Pettersson

To VAN: Suzuki, 2nd (2022) and 2nd (2023)

just for fun of course

It's a helluva lot easier to bring in a new coach than continually turn over the roster every season. 

Be patient. Don't take coaching decisions personally. Podkolzin's good, but he's still a rookie who's unfamiliar with the NHL game.  He should NOT be rushed.  IMHO, the Canucks are doing just that.

@Heretic- I might be able to buy your explanation. Are you suggesting that perhaps Green doesn’t have an issue with Podkolzin, but rather, simply wants Podkolzin to observe a few things from the press box?   I could possibly buy this strategy but is this a common practice with rookies?

More so common with non North American players.

thats good, at least there was some consequence. What a tool. 

Did you have to get a covid test Pears? Hope everything is ok with you and the rest of the staff. 

I should be fine since I don’t work with her a lot and I have both shots but if I have to I will. 

I have 1 warning point, from May 2017. 

Your bad boy days are a thing of the past 

@Pears "I have never seen a group of fans have such an unhealthy hate on for a general manager"

It helped get the previous GM fired (the "Fire Gillis" chants @ Rogers which got increasingly more vocal as that horrible last season went on had to have some impact on the owner).

Fan originated from the word Fanatic.  You often don't see rational / logical thinking involved.

Gillis completely deserved the firing, so the fans chanting him to be fired wasn't really a surprise. A GM who basically can't draft/develop any of his players, aside from TWO of his first rounders, is perhaps a reflection of him overlooking other parts of his job.

I don't hate Gillis, but I feel the need to bring up his flaws because people seem to fondly remember the good old days, without remembering why he screwed this team with his draft selections/decisions, including the trading away of picks.

Even worse, imagine celebrating at the idea of your teams' best player *possibly* leaving because you dislike Jim Benning so much.  This is what is going on at HF Canucks. 

What a spoiled kid, only wanting to win. ughh just get rid of him and lets keep players who do not care about winning.

Meanwhile, in a distant corner of the Canuck fanbase,

"eRmAgErDd iT's AuGuSt, StIlL nO cOnTrAcT!1!  fIrE bEnNiNgGgGg!!!1!1!!1"

Rushing their respective contracts before both sides are satisfied would be extremely neglectful. They have lots of time, be patient.

The deals are already agreed on by all parties. They're only postponing signing it so that the fans in CDC have something Canucks-related to talk about. 

Are we not signing Dickinson? Lol.

Domi went under the knife for shoulder surgery tho and he's a UFA after next season... that one would worry me. I'd want something more concrete back @Pears 

He needs to sign Hughes and Pettersson now, and then decide what can be done, I would not be perusing anyone right now until those two are locked up so you have a better understanding on where you sit on the cap and what room you will have if any.

Outside my customers and this forum I probably talk to less then 10 people 

Schmidt we can move out if the reports on interest around him are to be believed. Jake and Holtby can be bought out.

So yeah, this is entirely do-able, particularly if Carolina wants Nate, then its a swap for a Dougie sign and trade. 

How much would we save with a Holtby buyout?  
 

if I’m doing my math right, we would get about 2.4 million in cap savings? (So, a buyout would entail a 1.9 million cap hit).

Not bad I guess.  Holtby and Virtanen buyouts would give us a combined 4.9 million in cap.  Maybe that 4.9 million could be used on a guy like David Savard or *insert defensive defenseman*

3.8 mil for this season, with 500k cap hit left over 

1.9 mill cap hit next year

For Jake, its a 50,000 cap hit this season with 2.5 mil savings, 500k next season

So:

2021/22: 5.7 mil savings

2022/23: 2.4 mil cap hit

The second year cap hit sucks, but if we want to make a big move for next season its there to make.