I've been there with you from the beginning my friend. The visibility is so poor over here on the dark side (bein' that it's so dark and all) that I guess we're having trouble seeing each other. There's never been a moment in this process where I thought, based on what I had seen, that Horvat was ready to make an actual contribution at the NHL level yet. Not last season, not in the pre season. But when Stan Smyl said something along the lines of 'he can't improve anymore playing junior hockey' I realized that the Canucks might be about to embark upon this road that they are on now with him. I think it's the wrong thing to do, but plenty of teams operate this way. I was hoping The Steamer was expressing a personal opinion, but it looks like faulty group think now, doesn't it.