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  1. Carlo wouldn’t be that expensive, getting rid of a bunch of cap would be expensive.
  2. Yep, something like that would be a dream. It costs us Miller and a 1st at the least probably to turn it into a reality. We need to escape from a bunch of cap (Myers/Garland/Poolman/Pearson) to make the space and also trade for Carlo.
  3. It would be nice, but not likely and is probably overkill in a cap world. If a team has two high end D, they often split them up to drive two different pairings. We would probably be just as well off getting a really good 2nd pairing LD. We need a pairing to take a whole lot of tough minutes. Adding a top guy to Hughes still doesn’t give you that. Adding an Edler type guy to a Hronek pairing likely does. That would make a huge difference. Hughes doesn’t have to take hard defensive minutes and can go down to 23-25 minutes a game. He can have a pretty basic partner. OEL then moves to a 3rd pairing where he can play against lesser opposition and fewer minutes a night and is able to use his actual skillset on the 2nd unit PP. You can probably trust that 3rd pairing to play solid minutes when they aren’t miscast as shut down guys.
  4. Yep, but mean I want an actual 1st pairing elite defender to play with Hughes. It would be stupid not to want that. In our situation where our options are likely existing guys Myers or Brisebois… we can only afford a million or so for any new player. You don’t get much for that. Tryamkin would be a cheap option that has as much (or more) chance of working as any other option in that price range
  5. Have you not watched the team in recent years? Schenn was a depth player who had been waived half a dozen times in recent years, not even a 3rd pairing guy. He has been a consistent partner with Hughes. It would be great to have better options. Not sure where we are going to find any for under $1 million and fit under the cap. One main consideration is that a partner for Hughes is always going to play less minutes. If Hughes is playing 25 minutes a night… five minutes will be on the PP and without his regular partner. You don’t need another Quinn Hughes on that pairing, you need a guy who can play 2bd pairing level minutes, be defensively responsible, and have the skill to get the puck to his partner.
  6. Sounds like the resume of a forward version of Poolman. So clearly we need to sign him for millions per and give him term on top of it.
  7. There are fighters around who can skate faster. If we want to reserve a roster spot for a tough guy who is going to play 6-8 minutes a night, we can do better. At least find a 3rd pairing D who can chuck em if need be, at least they are actually on the ice for a reasonable period of time to respond to issues.
  8. That would be weird… has he been traded yet? Still plenty of reporting that he is on his way out of New York. A recent article even had Vancouver as a possible landing spot. He fits the mold of what the brass at least claim to want to do, which is pick up young players who haven’t worked out in their current teams.
  9. He probably will… the NHL is great at recycling coaches, they need a few chances at failing before they are given up on. It is funny that the team proved it wasn’t the coaching after the initial Boudreau bump, and started flailing badly again. Tocchet has a similar philosophy and coaching style as Green. He even says so publicly and that he sees the game the same way and talks to Green regularly about coaching and hockey stuff.
  10. Please cite your source for them being ruled out for next season. Pearson's most recent public statement about playing next year... "There’s timelines in my mind that I would like to hit, and hopefully we do," Pearson said. "It would make everything way better. It’s still such a slow process that I don’t have a specific time or date." "I'm still going to approach this summer like I'm a hockey player"
  11. Yay.... more "randomly assuming all these things work out like I want them to... we can bring back a bad roster that isn't a winner". We don't know that either Poolman or Pearson will on on LTIR for the season. All the reports are that they are both intending to play again. We CERTAINLY don't know that the team will magically know this in time for the beginning of the offseason when we have to shed cap in case they come back. Them being medically ruled out for the start of the season by failing their physicals in training camp doesn't help us as you can't just keep all the cap on the books and hope for the best. Even with those optimistic assumptions... 4 of our 8 NHL D are league minimum players? Plan the parade. If either of those players comes back at any point in the season you run a massive risk of being non cap compliant.. other teams would just love that, what sort of assets or futures would it take to get rid of millions of cap mid season when opposing GMs know they have you over a barrel. Yikes.
  12. Based on a line that will be on the ice for 6-8 minutes a game and almost always against the other team’s 4th line? Never mind the fact that they aren’t fast enough to catch anyone they might want to fight. The end game of something like this is the other team trying to line match with their good players and score goals at will while avoiding any rough stuff. It just happily take the man advantage all the time
  13. I haven’t brushed up on the rule book or hockey strategy lately… but I am still reasonably sure only one goalie is on the ice at any given time. So, no they can’t play at the same time. They can however split starts and both be on the roster… literally exactly what I typed in my post as a possible option. You might want to pull back the reins on telling everyone all the mistakes they are making when you can’t get basic stuff right.
  14. Option 4… they are all the same, meh. It is like asking which mayonnaise sandwich on white bread do you want. Trade value and cap hits are always part of the equation. The only time that ceases to be an evident truth is when you become GM of the Vancouver Canucks.
  15. This is becoming a (good) conundrum. It is going to be a tough choice what to do with him next season. He seems ready to play in the NHL, is his best value and development going to be playing 35 games next year behind Demko but getting to work with Ian Clarke every day… or would it be better for him to be the starter in Abby and get more reps in net. … or his his value gone up to the point where he is a more valuable asset to move than as a back up to Demko who is already signed long term. Demko is too young to have a successor already being groomed to take over. Is this a high water mark even, it is a position where very few get to the point of being reliable starters that last a long time. Many flash in the pan and then fade away. I don’t think there is a right answer, but all the options are better than the alternative of the guy not playing well.
  16. Based on what information? He was told he wasn’t in NHL shape and remade his entire physique in a couple months. His interviews since leaving talked about not getting any communication. The coaching staff didn’t give him feedback. He said would have a good game and then get benched or put in the press box the next game without any idea what he was doing right or wrong. That exact same sentiment was laid out by numerous players in that era. What NHL tesm is that coach running now? We could even see it just as fans. The D that got played over Tryamkin were barely AHL players and they performed terribly and got minutes anyways.
  17. I agree… Garland’s lack of value is strictly due to a flat cap world where most teams don’t have money and need to prioritize higher value positions at centre and defence. That flat cap will be ending after next season or even this summer if the expected agreement to raise the cap by an extra few million happens. If we pay a premium to Chicago to get rid of Garland, they will likely be able to flip him in a year for an actual positive return. He is still a very useful player and not really overpaid compared to UFAs who will be signing. Boeser is in a similar boat, if you can move him for basically no return… fine to that. Don’t add a sweetener to move him, that boat sailed and doesn’t make sense in the coming market conditions of a ton of extra cap space around the league. That will especially be the case of Arizona relocates and becomes a high revenue team vs. a drag on league revenue. The cap could jump remarkably high suddenly and cause cap inflation.
  18. Can you provide your citation as evidence for that? All current reports are that they haven’t retired or even ruled out next season. Just the possibility of them coming back during the season handcuffs us in terms of offseason moves as knowing they would be on the roster. How about Poolman’s extra year?
  19. If we could swap our 11th for 19th, a 2nd rounder, and ditch Myers…. I do that deal any day of the week. I doubt he waives for Chicago though. If they take Pearson and Poolman, I do that as well. Anything that means we can be in the game for starting to fill holes in the roster like Gavrikov/Barbashev level players. The middle of the first round is a real crap shoot and the different lists have players all over the place. You could make that trade AND still end up with the player you want.
  20. Wait, didn’t half the forum have him pencilled into our top 6 as a way to make our current cap debacle work out? I guess maybe more guaranteed money in the KHL than what the team was willing to offer in the AHL on a 2 way contract.
  21. You are a little obsessed with the dude to be pulling up necro threads like this. It is ok little buddy, things will work out.
  22. Probably a winger and not a centre.... we don't need another one.
  23. Well you know, having the biggest committed cap of any team in the league, already being over the current projected cap with 5 roster spots still to fill, and all while having a team that can’t get a sniff at the playoffs and needs a major injection of talent… that seems like an ideal position cap wise. Oh ya, and one of the worst prospect pools in the league so no cheap ELCs coming to play significant roles on the team. Not sure what your definition of cap problems is.
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