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With the salary retained (if accurate), and assuming he makes good use of the cap space… it could end up being a tidy piece of work in all honesty. (Maybe start with Tierney from Ottawa as our 3C with Dickinson pushed to 4th line?) We couldn’t be terrible for another year without significant opportunity cost down the road. This was a deal that should have happened last summer. The guys in our room are going to be happy to see some win now mentality, and that is a big deal because the sense coming out was that they were pretty bummed after last offseason.
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This is going to shock people to hear me say… but it could have been worse! (That is where the bar is at) If he can follow it up by bringing in useful players with all the cap space it “could” even turn into a win. If he suddenly has the cap space to sign both Petterson and Hughes to max term deals at a reasonable number it could also turn into a win (at least down the road).
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That is exactly it… if he can be completely buried if it doesn’t work there is little risk. The upside would be a big physical local boy who is a really good 4th line centre when Beagle goes.
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There is going to be a crop of interesting players who don’t get qualified. It is a no brainer to me for us to pick this guy up for a $1 million or less contract to play in the bottom of the lineup or be a 13th forward. Great marketing play as well.
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[Rumour] TBL offer Teams rights for Coleman and Savard
Provost replied to Wolfgang Durst's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I was thinking about this with some of the older Tampa Bay players. They won a couple of Cups and basically know they reached the peak of their career and that great roster is being dismantled. You could end up with a guy in retirement mode who gets sour pretty quickly. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
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Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
It literally had nothing to do with my happiness or unhappiness about Holtby or 20/20 hindsight. There are a few posters that will respond to any of my posts with disingenuous arguments and outright fabrications… if I posted that the ice was cold they would be up on their soap boxes shouting to the heavens that it wasn’t. I was fine with the Holtby signing. We needed some sort of veteran presence. Someone made a false statement and I just pointed out that it was false. Virtually everyone understood and agreed except for the small peanut gallery. Holtby was signed to (I think) the 3rd biggest cap hit of any goalie on the market last year after Markstrom And Lehner. He was objectively brought in to insulate Demko so that they weren’t gambling on Demko being ready to carry the load as the starter. That is just what happened. Ice is cold, water is wet. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
You are entirely reframing the entire claim to make an unrelated false argument. That is like me saying “the sky is blue today” and you responding, “No, you are wrong… some days the sky is cloudy!” It literally has nothing to do with what I said. He did not gamble on Demko being able to take the load as the starter last season. Period. It simply isn’t true. If he did, he wouldn’t have signed another starter in Holtby. If he was gambling on Demko LAST SEASON as claimed, he would have signed a $1-2 million dollar back up goalie. He overtly chose not to make that gamble. Choosing the long term potential and price of Demko over the cost and term of Markstrom is an entirely different unrelated issue. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
That is a really odd take to the actual post which had nothing to do with whether the signing turned out to be right or wrong in the end… it was simply a statement of historical objective fact. Heffy said that last season Benning sucessfully gambled on Demko being a full-time starter this past season and turned out to be right. The response was that he didn’t actually make that gamble that was claimed and instead signed an expensive veteran 1B to pair with Demko literally because he didn’t want to gamble on Demko being ready to be the full-time starter. That doesn’t have anything to do with whether it was the right decision at the time or turned out to be the wrong decision in the end… it was that the post was blatantly inaccurate. The hindsight part was that Benning turned out to be wrong and Demko didn’t actually need another expensive starter to insulate him for a couple years before being ready to rake over. The other hindsight was that Holtby’s bad years before signing with us turned out to not be a fluke and he performed badly here too, so Benning and/or his staff were wrong on his pro scouting assessment. -
I don’t know that it is what they are looking for but they don’t care terribly about the cap since they work on an internal budget that is well below the cap ceiling. $50 million in real dollars are owed to OEL and $20.8 million to Schmidt. At 25% retained they still save between $16-17 million real cash just swapping those two players. That isn’t nothing…
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He can do both. He can take on good but slightly overpaid players from cap strapped teams and gather extra assets to do that. He can also outbid any other team on UFAs for the next couple seasons or mess with teams with offer sheets. I am confident that his roster is going to look significantly different by the opening game than it does now and he will have a lot more bigger bale players…. He will also have an bunch more draft picks for the next three years.
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Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
If you don’t think that $2.3-3.3 million equals “millions”… you might want to go back to school. Words have actual meanings, there is a book called a dictionary you can refer to for assistance Take a break from your trite smarmy comments and educate yourself on basic English. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
That wasn’t the claim. I was totally fine signing a veteran back up. The poster claimed that Benning knew that Demko was ready to be the full time starter and therefore made the right decision on hindsight. That is objectively false. Benning had the the exact same mindset you and I had where a lot of insulation might be needed. He didn’t bet that Demko was ready, he bet that Demko would be ready within a couple of years. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
That is an entirely different argument that what I responded to. The claim was the Benning bet that Demko was ready to take the load as the starter. Benning didn’t do that. At the time I didn’t know whether Demko was ready or not either. That isn’t what the poster claimed. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Exactly… and hindsight is easy, but folks are welcome to go back and look at my posts and the time and I said those exact points. A GM should be able to beat some dummy like me in decision making. If Markstrom and Tanev price themselves out of our reach it would be sad but understandable to let them go. Focus of Toffoli and Stecher who would be efficient signings. Markstrom definitely priced himself out of our market. No idea what Tanev would have cost to stay, maybe same deal but with one less year of term… maybe worth it, maybe not. Toffoli and Stecher instead of Virtanen and a cheap backup would have been night and day difference. Instead we are looking at a big hit to future assets to find another top six forward. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
Actually that is absolutely not true. He gambled that Demko wasn’t ready so signed the most expensive back up possible to insulate him for a couple of years until he was ready. We could have signed a $1-2 million back up and saved millions in cap space. -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
That is a BS argument. Toffoli and a slightly less expensive back up instead of Virtanen and Holtby would put us in a better position than we are now. Tanev was also better than Schmidt. No idea if that will be the case by the end of their respective contracts, but it was definitely the case last year. It may also have had a much different impact in the room… we can’t know that part. https://thewincolumn.ca/2021/06/25/evaluating-what-the-calgary-flames-should-do-with-chris-tanev/ We are short top six forwards, making a false choice between Hoglander and Toffoli is disingenuous… you can have both. Good teams also have good players on their 3rd lines. There is a weird obsession here with making sure any player who is decent would be misplaced on a 3rd line. If we had the cap space, a 3rd line of players like Pearson-Miller-Podkolzin isn’t a bad thing believe it or not… -
Jim Benning to speak to the media Thursday prior to draft
Provost replied to Bertuzzipunch's topic in Canucks Talk
No need to listen to it. ”We have been working the phones and are always looking at ways to improve the team. It is hard to makes trades and move money with the market the way it is. There weren’t any deals that made sense for us. We will still be looking at players to improve the team. We expect most of our improvement to come internally with players pushing for a roster spot. We are working towards deals with our RFAs. All the stories by by media are made up, even the ones confirmed by players who have left. Everything is good and all the players want to be here.” -
I am honestly not sure what people were expecting? He was going to have a choice of the 8th best forward from most teams (except the ones that went with 8 skaters)… so having a team with mostly 3rd liners is exactly what he was offered. He has a really good defence already with plenty of extra depth to trade as assets. He said publicly that cap space was the most valuable asset in the league right now and he picked accordingly by not taking on anyone’s bad contract headaches for free. He signed Larson and Oleksiak to pretty team friendly deals, almost certainly less than they would have gotten on the open market. He has effectively a full roster and is over $7 million below the floor. Now it will be the deals to take on the bad cap and the players on the Kraken roster are exactly the currency he needs to send back…. Cheap solid players. Teams who are dumping cap don’t want to take money back. There isn’t a player they don’t have the money for right now. Eichel, Hamilton, etc. The good news if there is any is that it is an extra team willing to absorb cap so the price for doing so might drop a little. Maybe suddenly Ottawa and Detroit aren’t completely in the driver’s seat on that front. As it stands, the Kraken have the most cap space going into free agency to beat any other bids… and they may even wait until they have secured the UFAs they want before giving cap relief to other teams who would want to be bidding against them in that market.
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They needed to reach a cap floor with some bigger to make trades that don’t put them under the cap. Their team is not going to look like this on opening night.
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Ottawa is reportedly trying to shed both Dadanov and Tierney… if they can take Roussel and Eriksson who don’t cost much in real dollars… I wonder what sweeteners we would have to add. That is $15.7 million real dollars out for them and only $4.9 million in. Tierney is a top flight 3C. Miller-Petterson-Boeser Hoglander-Horvat-Dadanov Pearson-Tierney-Podkolzin Dickenson-Beagle-Motte That would be a pretty decent forward group with two good PK pairs in the bottom 6. When Beagle leaves after next season you can move Dickinson over to centre.