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  1. Beagle by all reports is now done for the season. We have all his LTIR space. Plus we don’t know if Petterson is coming back this season yet, his agent said he is getting closer but it is a delicate injury that needs to be rehabbed. The season is so close to being done, we could easily shut him down to heal rather than risk aggravating it where it could become more serious. We could also run with less than a full roster to make some extra space and just call guys up from the taxi squad when needed. That could free up another million or two if really needed. We could probably eat a $5 million dollar player if needed under the cap (the current $3 million in space, plus a million saver by whoever they bump off the roster, plus a million by running with a 21 man roster)
  2. I did read the study... buddy wasn’t correct. Go find a quote from it saying that any issues were attributed to media fear mongering like he claimed and get back to me. The study also found that increasing severity of Covid disease related to higher incidents of these neurological issues... not increased exposure to media reports. Up to 20% of Covid patients experience long term health impacts.... so if you are trying to insert “common sense” that isn’t supported by the study being quoted... maybe it is common sense that people have anxiety form being really freaking sick and not knowing when they will get better. The media fear mongering angle has nothing to support it except silly people trying to downplay a serious illness. ... and yes, a 1-2% increase is statistically significant, especially considering the size of the study.
  3. Those aren’t mutually exclusive ideas. That 4th round pick didn’t cost much in real dollars for Detroit by the time all the moving parts changed hands.
  4. To be clear, it wasn’t even the pro rated 25% of Savard’s actual salary. it is even smarter than that. Detroit unloaded Lashoff the other way who earns $275k in the minors to make it even less costly in terms of real dollars Then credit back the 20% escrow for the 25% of Savard to make the dollars even smaller. 25% of Savard’s salary is $1 million... only about 1/4 of the season left so that is about $250k give or take a little.. refund 20% escrow and that drops it to $200k. Then remove Lashoff salary (no idea how far the AHL is into their season for pro-rating it...they started later than the NHL but even say 1/4 that which was offloaded and that is about $70k savings for Detroit. So they bought a 4th rounder for about $100-150k. That doesn’t even take into account the 10% deferral in Savard’s salary that doesn’t have to get paid now, but has to be paid back eventually. Does anything really think Benning could imagine and pull off a move like that? He sure hasn’t shown it in 7 years.
  5. It is almost no money. The season is almost over, so the pro rated amount is minimal. Beagle’s contract is also probably insured, so he is saving money. Look what Detroit just did... it actually cost them very little as they offloaded Lashoff who made a lot of money in the minors and paid 25% of the pro rated Savard salary.
  6. I didn’t say I was upset at any one of them? I am upset we Go look on Armchair GMs and I posted a thread suggesting the very thing about us using our LTIR space in creative ways like Detroit did. Detroit just bought a 4th round pick for a tiny amount of cash. 25% of Savard’s remaining money owed minus what they saved with losing Lashoff.
  7. I know.... we just saw Detroit make a move to use cap space and launder money for a trade (after I posted this thread). We could be involved in something like this.
  8. I know this is crazy talk. If Beagle is done for the season, and Petterson has a nagging injury and could be worth shutting down for the little time remaining in order to heal up for next year. We have a few million in LTIR space for the season. Could we actually be creative and take on some bad cap that expires at the end of the season in exchange for an asset. With such a compressed schedule we will need extra warm bodies and are almost certain to have more injuries. Contending teams near the cap need to find creative ways to add. If we have a few million in unused space that isn’t going to cost much in real dollars... why not. I should say that I don’t hold out hope that this administration is likely to do anything like that. For a guy who likes the draft, he doesn’t do much to accrue picks.
  9. Will be interesting to see how the return plays out? Savard with 50% retained for a 1st and Killorn to make cap space? Foote being thrown in? Is Stamkos going on LTIR until the playoffs?
  10. For the price he is going to cost, he just needs to be an upgrade on Benn and that is fine. He has been playing more than 20 minutes a night now that he has had an NHL calibre coach for his team. That suggests he still has potential to be a top 4D in our league. The spot beside Hughes seems tailor made for him if he can raise his game. Hughes will be playing 19-22 minutes a night, depending on how much PP to time the team gets. There will be other pairings that get a lot more 5v5 time. His partner is only going to have to play 16-18 minutes a night range as he won’t be on the PP.... that is pretty limited minutes for a defenceman and even though it is technically on the top two pairings, will likely get 5-6th amount of ice time amongst all the D. It wouldn’t take much to envision Tryamkin being able to reach that level.
  11. In related news... the happiest guy in the league today is Brandon Montour.
  12. That would be a good pick up for sure, I think his age and draft status make him more expensive to acquire. Something like: Virtanen or Gaudette DiPietro 2nd For Patrick Low level prospect
  13. This is the context people have to keep in mind when thinking about how long it will likely take Podkolzin to adjust. "Linden Vey dominating" is everything you need to know about the league and level of competition.
  14. Have you paid attention to this GM? We are clearly going to re-sign Edler and even Hamonic if we can afford it. Hughes-Hamonic Edler-Schmidt Juolevi-Myers Tryamkin Unless Rathbone supplants Juolevi, he will likely start in the minors to play lots of minutes and be the first injury call up. If a miracle happens and Myers is taken in the expansion draft it certainly clears up the picture a lot: Hughes-Hamonic Schmidt-Juolevi Edler-Tryamkin Rathbone That gives us two guys in Tryamkin and Schmidt who can play both sides and allow us to rejig pairings in case of injury. We could also pick up a cheap veteran D like Gudas who would be exposed by their team to have another veteran presence to slot in
  15. Should we change the thread title to "Time to re-sign all the aging vets"?
  16. People are going to pull muscles with the amount they are stretching to justify how this isn't really a bad signing. It doesn't matter if we maybe can buy out players to make extra cap space, it doesn't matter of Beagle ends up in LTIR next season, it doesn't matter of magically Seattle takes Myers off our hands in expansion. None of those relate to this deal at all and could happen regardless of whether you sign Pearson. The only question is whether Pearson's contract was good value or not; whether the lost opportunity costs mean we can't make a deal for a more important piece, and whether it would have been better to get an asset for him at the deadline. Opinion outside the market is that there will be a ton of value pick ups for good players this offseason due to the flat cap. Pearson would be hard pressed to get the deal on the open market in free agency that he got with us, that in itself means there isn't any reason to have signed him now. There wasn't any deadline we were working to that necessitated it. We don't know the opportunities that would have come up in the expansion draft or before free agency with so many teams trying to shed cap space. It is pretty obvious that an extra $3.25 million in cap space to take advantage of another Schmidt type deal would be handy to have. There are reports, again from outside the market, that Pearson was piece sought after at the trade deadline. That probably translates into at least a 2nd round pick if not also a prospect. That pick could also be flipped to get rid of bad cap or to accrue a player in the ED that couldn't be protected. The Pearson signing isn't terrible in a complete vacuum. It was just unnecessary for a non-key piece that doesn't move the needle at all, and comes with a pretty significant opportunity cost.
  17. I am not sure how having the combination of the longest serving GM with one of the worst winning percentages of any active GM... and having a team producing worse results after 7 years of his tenure despite having a mitt full of top 10 picks and spending to the cap each year translates into smelling like roses.
  18. ... how many years have people been excusing moves because of some wishful future thinking? The Loui must be retiring idea has been around for a couple of offseasons already. A Holtby buyout makes sense... but so did some buyouts last offseason, and they didn't happen. We can't just assume they will this year too. Even the idea of Ferland and Beagle being on LTIR for the entire of next season is wishful thinking... they haven't announced their medical retirement and there really isn't any incentive to do so on their end. If they aren't ruled out for the entirety of next season really soon, we can't use that money to sign players because we can't count on the LTIR money being available. Even if all of those things end up being true, it doesn't make the Pearson signing any better simply because there are certainly going to be better deals out there for the money AND he would likely have garnered a decent asset at the deadline. Reports from outside the market were suggesting that he was high on a number of teams lists as a trade target. There is an opportunity cost for the loss of the cap dollars and we have simply shut the door on even considering some of those opportunities. Is there another Nate Schmidt type deal out there to get a good player with pennies on the dollar just because you are willing to take on their whole cap hit? Almost assuredly considering the flat cap.
  19. Exactly, they aren't going to take 30 signed NHL players because then they are stuck with having to trade or waive a bunch of them and hoping someone picks them. It is just guessing, but with the flat cap and so many teams in trouble, I expect Seattle to try to stick closer to the minimum cap they are allowed with their selections... that gives them a ton of leeway to make trades for other players from teams who need to shed cap. We have seen how expensive it is to move cap dollars right now, they could end up with a handful of picks in rounds 1-3 by taking on contracts for players who are still pretty good but are squeezed out of their team. Like why pick any player with cap owing from Tampa? Depending on how they do their protection list, take Cal Foote or Maroon in the ED... and then trade for hometown Seattle boy Johnson in return for a 1st round pick and a good young prospect for a farm team.
  20. I am not sure of what you are trying to say here. He would be on the list of available players even if not signed, but that wasn't the point of the post. I was responding to someone saying extending Pearson was a money saving tactic because he could then be exposed to save money. Obviously not extending him doesn't cost money, so that didn't make sense. Seattle can sign players on expiring contracts. They just have a minimum number of players they have to pick who are under contract for the next year, and a minimum amount of cap hit they need to reach. That may be a tactic they use to avoid committing too many dollars and leaving themselves up to be cap saviours from other teams and harvest extra assets.
  21. I actually don't understand what your thought process is on this? How is it cheaper than not signing the contract? Seattle would also be taking him before his extension kicked in if he was exposed and claimed.. Wouldn't it be better/cheaper to leave Myer's big contract out there as the bait for expansion? If they want an established player from us rather than a rookie or an expiring contract... then that actually saves us money compared with Pearson who (until the extension was signed) was going to cost us nothing going forward.
  22. Luongo is the best value on that list as at least he isn’t a negative in wins vs. replacement. :D
  23. Jesus murphy.... this is ridiculous. If teams wanted Pearson that badly... how the hell do we not send him out and then replace him. Get a decent pick that you could flip to offload a bad contract and get double the cap freedom from that. I was giving Benning until last offseason to show that he could extricate himself from the mess he had made in the cap allocation and bad signings. He failed in clearing cap last offseason, and we lost two really efficient contracts in Stecher and Toffoli. I feel bad for Pearson getting all this venom about the signing, but as with every other signing it is a million dollars too much and a year too long. Each in isolation is not great, but in combination they have resulted in one of the worst teams in the league while also being strapped for cap space.
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