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[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
There is no credible information that Beagle will be out for the rest of his contract. On 650 they mentioned “from what they are hearing” the injury is long term and could go into next season. Folks have jumped on that to mean he is done and never plans on playing again. Nothing like that has been suggested. If he is just out a couple of months into next season that doesn’t help our cap at all as it doesn’t let us sign anyone. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I am not sure what the pushed ELC bonuses will come to.... but those come off that $17 million. Plus that is only with 12 players signed!! Assume an average of $1 million each average for 8 players (including replacing a top 4D in Edler)... that leaves about $8 million left for both Petterson and Hughes combined to just make up a 22 man roster. Ferland hasn’t retired, Seattle isn’t likely going to do us a favour by taking big money off of us, and the Beagle being on LTIR all of next year is an entirely unsubstantiated rumour. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
The only thing I can think is that he is trying to pressure the Petterson and Hughes camp by having less money available to sign them by the time they negotiate. That is a terrible plan. Otherwise we had better hear about $10 million magically coming off the cap that we don’t know about. Nothing has shown that sort of thing is going to happen. Alfives spent two years justifying moves because they only made sense if Eriksson was planning on retiring and there “must be a gentlemen’s agreement in place”. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
... an extra gain you mean. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
That is a ridiculous argument. ”He isn’t quite as bad as some of our other bad signings” is no sort of reasonable logic. The comparison is how we could have used those cap dollars more wisely... not “it is OK because there are worse examples of cap allocation” There ie no justification for this signing at this time t be anything but terrible. It was at the most charitable, at his full market value on the UFA market... in reality probably overpaid compared with what he would have gotten in free agency. Why sign him now? Why not wait until after expansion and the draft to see what other options there could be for those cap dollars? There is no downside to waiting. Heck, if we had a creative management group we could use our extra protection slots to hide players other teams don’t want to lose. Like trade for them before expansion for a 5th round pick, and then trade them back to the same team for a 2nd after expansion. I haven’t seen any rules against that. I had mentioned in another thread a week ago. We could use that cap space to accrue assets. Like could we trade Jake for Palat and a a 2nd? That gives us a better winger than Pearson for less term and less overall cap dollars once you deduct Virtanen. We closed ourselves up to all those kinds of opportunities for no reason since there wasn’t a deadline at play. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
He got trade protection and he is now worth less signed than he he would have as a rental. That is all you need to know about the value. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
No it doesn’t show them as exempt. Scroll down from the team on their expansion tool. It gives the list of exempt players on the Canucks. Those three aren’t on it, you don’t have to take my word for it. You are confusing players eligible to fulfil the minimum exposure requirements and who is exempt and doesn’t use up a protection slot. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
That is for minimum exposure requirements, not for exemption. Capfriendly literally gives the list of exempt players. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Less than $17 million once you include whatever ELC bonuses push into next season. With 10-11 players left to sign including your two superstars and replacing a top 4D in Edler. Assume $13-15 for our stars... that is $2-4 million for another 8 players? Even assuming the Ferland is on LTIR again (which he hasn’t announced), and a bought out Holtby... we don’t have enough cap space left to sign players to minimum salary players. I guess the plan is to run out of cap space and force Hughes to sign a bridge for $2 million or hold out? Who were we competing against? Why not wait until after expansion? He is under contract with us. When we give up assets to make cap space this offseason, people need to think about signings like this. -
Ya, you referenced two studies and then said their results were due to media fear mongering. Also, it is not “common sense” that media fear mongering affects people who have had Covid differently than it does people who haven’t had it... everyone sees the same media, so your “common sense” logic means that a third of the general public now has diagnosed neurological conditions even if they didn’t have Covid? The studies showed that neurological and psychiatric conditions were significantly increased for those who had Covid. It is even made clear that it is first time incidents of those issues... not people already differing them like you suggest. Media sensationalism doesn’t cause Parkinson’s, dementia, Guillain Barre syndrome, etc. The fact all of these conditions increase in Covid patients shows that there is a clear physiological process at play impacting the brain. Your common sense is simply ignorance.
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[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Umm when we have no cap space and these types of deals cost us valuable and cap efficient players. I guess you forgot last offseason and haven’t been paying attention to the team? -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign Tanner Pearson
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
How does he still have authority do make the same mistakes over and over again. We need a 3C and Top 4 RHD.... so let’s sign a middle six winger to significant money and term. Oh, and let’s do it at a time where it uses up a protection slot during expansion. Oh, and let’s do it when we have a bunch of those contracts on the books that have gone terribly, leaving us with no cap space. Oh, and let’s do it in a flat cap world where there will be similar level players available in the summer for 1 year, $1 million contracts. -
Did you really make a rant about people only reading titles... ... by going on to make up stuff about some studies based only on titles and what you think might be in them, without actually reading them? Please quote where in the Lancet or other study it found that the dramatic increase in many forms of neurological and psychiatric conditions was due to “media fear mongering.”
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Less interesting to me. There are "project" players who have been with a single organization that you can convince yourself just need a fresh start with a new coach and systems. Once a guy has had a few stops and doesn't work out, then you have to think the remaining variable is the player himself.
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[trade] Palmieri and Zajac to Islanders
Provost replied to qwijibo's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
That is a decent deal and not an overpayment at all which you normally see at trade deadlines. 50% retained on two really useful middle 6 players for a 1st round pick, a decent but not blue chip prospect... and a couple of minor pieces. If teams started an arms race and we could get the same for Pearson/Sutter, I would be pretty happy with that. -
Well the official statement said it was caught at a location with has been announced by public health as a site for exposures. There were three restaurants downtown put on that list as the only locations that fit the timing. That means it is almost certainly one of those three places... unless a player was up in Whistler on their days off partying.
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They are limited to compensating within the salary cap and aren't allowed to give them perks and benefits outside specific restrictions. It avoids cap circumvention by a team owner paying their players outside the cap. Otherwise why couldn't Aquilini or another owner pay a player league minimum under the cap and then give them give a free condo to any Canucks player, or a car, and a $5 million a year endorsement deal. All these things are tightly restricted by league rules.
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The question will be did the staff get infected by a Canuck, or did a Canuck get infected by being at the restaurant. Regardless, this is the Canucks so we know the league will immediately start investigating whether the Aquilini's have been supplying free meals at the restaurant to their players in violation of the salary cap and we will get fined and lose a draft pick....
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Well this series of rants didn’t age well.... It also doesn’t take much to connect that dots that the guys are eating at one of the downtown restaurants that was closed down due to COVID, including the Aquilini run one. Edit: this was all but confirmed when the NHL came out to reaffirm their policy against dining out as recent non compliance caused exposures. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/canucks-announce-25-positive-covid-19-cases-organization/