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Somehow getting one of these two picks may be the only realistic path out of another decade of hoping to be a fringe playoff team that is fighting for a wildcard spot IF everything falls our way in a season. Getting a cost controlled 2C on an ELC who is performing at the rate Petterson was on his entry level deal means Miller can be moved and his cap hit allocated to another top 4D. That would turn the team’s fortune around really fast.
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[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
You know Horvat isn’t a Canuck right? Maybe he will sign with NYI or the Flames where the Canucks he knows play :D -
That doesn’t even make any sense. 1. He is on an amazingly team friendly contract signed long term at $4.1 million and able to play 20 minutes a night on one of your top two pairings. 2. We don’t need another offensive D Man… we need someone steady to help keep the puck out of our net. He would be a good complementary partner for either Hughes or OEL. 3. Him not being durable is just made up. He has had one season where he missed significant time in his entire career. It was a shortened Covid season where he played 27 of 56 games. He plays 70-80 games a season which is very durable for a top 4 D who get beat up a lot more than wingers. In his career going backwards, the number of games he has missed by year: 7, 3, 29, 3, 10, 6, 0
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Two of the teams most heavily reported as being interested in Miller got sent packing in the first round of the playoffs. There will be some more teams who get punted in the next couple rounds that may want a short term fix to push them higher next year. I wonder if we will be revisiting potential Miller trades to open up some cap space. Without Horvat, it leaves a holes… but with Miller it still leaves the team with other holes and also cap trouble. As much as folks still think we will magically be able to get rid of a ton of cap space this offseason, a Miller trade represents the most likely way out of the cap dilemma. Myers probably isn’t going anyways unless he wants to, even then it would be in September after his bonus is paid. We “might” be able to move one of Garland/Boeser/Beauvillier… but maybe not as there will be many teams wanting to move off expensive wingers to make room for re-signing their own younger players due raises. We probably won’t know if Pearson and Poolman are out for the whole season until it is too late to use their LTIR and will have to clear space assuming they come back. If we make the mistake of qualifying Bear without a deal, we could face a nasty arbitration award that we aren’t allowed to walk away from that will exacerbate the cap problems. Boston may be replacing Bergeron, so a deal may be back on the table. Miller Rathbone for Zacha Carlo … money is pretty even and we fill two holes on the roster for the price of one. The Rangers always go for it and just whiffed badly this season on their trades. They have long coveted Miller by many reports, and May finally be willing to pay a price for him. Any of Chytil, Lafreniere, Kakko may easily be on the table. Schneider may be a luxury they can’t afford with Fox and Trouba ahead of him on the right side. Maybe they even feel like they need to beef up their forward group and K’Andre Miller is going to be too expensive on his new contract for their salary structure.
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Unless they decide it is rebuild time… no idea where their heads will be after a spectacular regular season and dismal playoffs. They have a lot of long term contracts and no way they can replace the production of those two cheap contracts for the same money. I would more than happily trade them Miller and Rathbone for Zacha and Carlo.
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I really hope that some of these teams being beat out in the first round decide to revisit the Miller trade interest they had. The Rangers need to sign K’Andre Miller but also need to improve their team and have a little cap space. They still have some young pieces that would be of interest. Lafreniere, Chytil, Schneider, Kakko, high picks.
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[Proposal] This is how we clear cap space!
Provost replied to HKSR's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Not likely if he doesn't want to go. Go to Capfriendly and find the teams with cap space next year and actual real dollars after re-signing their own players who have $3 million to spend on a #5 D. Take away 10 of them and you get to basically no one very fast. Then if there happens to be a team with the cap space, budget, and need... try to swing a deal when there are a lot of other players and teams trying to shed cap as well. -
[Proposal] This is how we clear cap space!
Provost replied to HKSR's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
I don't think it will be that easy to ditch Myers unfortunately. He has a 10 team no trade list, and having been in Buffalo and escaped I suspect he won't want to go back there. His bonus is also not due to get paid out until Sept 1st which means no one will take him on until then at the earliest. It is Beauvillier, Garland, and Boeser that we have a chance of moving... but with a flat cap expect little in return except the cap space. -
Tank Hard for Bedard - Playoff chances are already Slim
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Canucks Talk
Even Bieksa said... the games they are going to be playing in October are a lot harder than the games they have been playing at the end of last season. The team isn't good and requires major surgery. It looks almost impossible to get that major surgery done in one year. Cap hell at the moment and no way to exit contracts with a flat cap and every other team with money to spend having the same issues (unless the NHL bails us out and makes a deal to artificially raise the cap this year beyond $1 million)> There is a thin free agent crop, so the few quality guys are likely going to get overpaid in free agency. As much as the organization would like to make a push for the playoffs next year, I have doubts on what they can execute. Trading Miller remains the only viable path to doing some "major surgery", but with Horvat gone as well it just creates one hole to fill another. Moving any of our surplus wingers is going to be pretty neutral in just making enough space to actually fit the roster we have signed already under the cap. Ditching Garland or Beauvillier just gets us to right under the cap. We will likely have no certainty on the LTIR futures of Pearson or Poolman, so can't spend their money until maybe very late in the offseason. Same goes for trying to move Myers, apparently his bonus isn't payable until September (No idea if this is true, but it has been posted here repeatedly)... so good luck moving him with his trade protection and cost. This is why getting one of those top three centres in the draft was so important this year. It is a cheap backfill ready immediately or in the very near future for Miller if you move him out. You can then allocate his cap to the defence... of course we screwed the odds of that plan working as badly as possible. Barring a miracle at the draft, I think trading Miller is still the way to go. Having some cap space would be very useful in the offseason to pick up some unqualified RFAs and some veterans on cheap value contracts. It also helps after next season to actually have some cap space to do something material with. A realistic strategy, more to set the stage for the season after next: 1. Trade Miller at the draft in any deal that doesn't bring money back that doesn't include a top 4 young D or a younger middle 6 centre. 2. Try to move out any of Beavillier, Garland, Boeser 3. Don't qualify Bear, he is not worth what he will demand and we can't risk an arb award we can't walk away from 4. Do nothing big on July 1st. If there is a value signing fly at it. If we didn't get a player or cap back from a Miller trade... take a small swing at Gavrikov or Barbashev unless they get overpaid to use some of the freed up cap space and fill a hole. 5. In August, find some cheap, short term veterans as insurance players who can be on the roster or waived 6. Once we have confirmation if either Poolman or Pearson is out for the entire season on LTIR, try to move their money to a team like Arizona for a sweetener like Rathbone. 7. Use that newfound cap space we have to snag a couple players in the $2-3 million range that shake loose from rosters at training camp. 8. Play in training camp if any of our existing players who play all forward positions can be a one year fill in as our 2C or 3C (Raty, Sasson, Aman, Karlsson, etc) Not a sexy looking offseason, but I don't know what else you can do aside from use next year to see what we have in some of the younger guys as they develop and make sure we have the cap to re-sign Petterson and Hronek as well as actually finding some decent players on the market -
[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
My only quibble is that Wolanin is a kind of guy you can have in the press box, Hirose needs minutes. I would rather he play big minutes in Abby as he has a higher ceiling still if developed right. Sadly, I think Schenn will be too expensive for us. He has earned himself a $3 million x 3 year contract from someone and we shouldn’t pay that. Maybe if we kept him at the deadline we could have extended him for cheap, but I think now it would be closer to market rate. -
[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Haha… Pretty amazing what happens if you could somehow manage to sign three top 4D! Of course there is the pesky problem of actually doing it and getting the cap space. -
[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Nope… just Miller and Myers gone and we could afford that well enough. It isn’t impossible we could swap Miller for a Severson equivalent (but younger) plus a good pick and save a little cap… and then use that pick to offload Myers. They had better have some sort of plan like this or next year’s “going for it” idea is going to be over by Christmas. -
[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
They joke about it all the time. It would be funny though after all this. Hughes-Severson Gavrikov-Hronek OEL-Tryamkin Wolanin-Burroughs That isn’t a bad defence suddenly. 8 guys who can play in the NHL. Gavrikov and Hronek could play a whole lot of all purpose minutes meaning Hughes wouldn’t have to be at 28 minutes a game. Just have to get rid of Myers, Dermott, Poolman, and Bear…. Some easier than others. -
2023 Canucks end of season media availability
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
The team is faring worse and is more cap strapped… no one sane is going to give credit for moves that haven’t happened yet. If they can manage to clear a bunch of cap without using the few futures we have, and manage to substantially improve on what is objectively a bad roster… then kudos. They have shown zero sign of having that capability yet. -
[Rumour] Nikita Tryamkin eyeing NHL return
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Ummm you might want to look at all of that again. We have spent that money and more. We are currently over the cap with just 20 more players on the roster. 1. You don’t get to count Ferland’s LTIR coming off because that was already spent in previous seasons. 2. Millers raise kicks in 3. Kuzmenkos raise kicks in 4. We picked up Hronek and added his salary 5. Pearson didn’t retire or state he is done for next season. You can’t commit his money to another player and it is highly unlikely we will know if he is done for the season in time to make a move to use that daily space. 6. Same with Poolman, you can’t just erase his cap space because you hope he will go away. It counts and we will be left with filling his spot with a near league minimum guy that can be waived if and when Poolman returns. -
Tank Hard for Bedard - Playoff chances are already Slim
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Canucks Talk
Frankly… with the half pregnant moves we have been making and to secure their “vision” it might make sense in that context. If you could trade the pick and shed a bunch of cap, at least you have an open slate to leverage that cap space. If the move loses you OEL and Myers… but gains you the ability to sign Gavrikov and Barbashev. That is much more likely to get us into the playoffs next season which is their stated aim Of course that is a stupid plan and the long term quest this team has had to become a bubble playoff team at the expense of proper rebuilding has ruined our chances to be an actual contender for a decade now, and facing a decade more coming up. The very sad part, is that fans here have become so accustomed to losing and rationalizing it, if this management gossip manages to get us into the playoffs with first round exits each of the next two or three seasons by robbing our future… they will be cheered as heroes. -
Tank Hard for Bedard - Playoff chances are already Slim
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Canucks Talk
A prospect picked later is drastically less likely to be a high end player. History shows that once you get past the first few picks it is just a complete crap shoot. The drop off from 5-10 is great than the drop off from 10-30. It is dumb to argue unicorn picks that worked out. They are exceptions and not the rule. For every 3rd rounder that ended up playing near the top of the lineup, there are dozens who never played a game in the NHL. -
Tank Hard for Bedard - Playoff chances are already Slim
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Canucks Talk
Is it too soon to create my thread about missing the playoffs next season? … I guess I will wait for some miraculous offseason moves and lottery luck. OEL and Myers retire and we use that cap space to retool our top 4 D. We win the lottery and draft Bedard. Woo and Hirose come into camp and blow the doors off as a physical and steady 3rd pairing. We go through the entire of next season with few injuries and all our players have career years. -
Tank Hard for Bedard - Playoff chances are already Slim
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Canucks Talk
Looking forward to next season and the team is just completely screwed. A few million over the cap with only a 20 person roster or mostly AHLers, carry over bonus penalties from a guy like Kuzmenko. Not likely to know the future of Pearson and Poolman and whether they are out the whole season so we have to leave cap space assuming they will come back and can't spend it on replacement players. It is going to be buyouts, retained salary transactions, and futures spent to get rid of bad contracts. Just to bring back a worse roster than we have now. Then follow up the next season by spending all our newly opened cap space on Petterson and Hronek raises if we can somehow convince them to stay and extend long term. -
Yep, there were some serious WTF moves there. I hope Burke goes back to the media, I like his rants and rambling. There are going to be a ton of coaches available soon and I have no idea why we were in such a rush to secure Tocchet. It isn't like there has been a lineup for his services, we could have hired him after the season. Instilling the systems to be ready at the start of next season is a cop out... a good many of the players he was coaching won't be here for next season by the time they try to move guys around to somehow fit under the cap. We are over the cap with just a 20 man roster and probably won't know in time whether Pearson and Poolman will be out the whole of next season so we can replace them with their LTIR. Buyouts, retained salary trades, using futures to offload bad contracts... it is likely going to be a f**king ugly offseason.