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Ok... so your plan is to keep moving the goalposts and making new arguments each time the previous ones are debunked? Yes you said it was impossible for him to sign. As a matter of fact, you keep referring to the one quote (including just now) that says it is impossible for him to sign. You smarmily demanded that people provide proof showing that you were wrong... several folks obliged and actually did the work to illustrate and provide examples for why it is not impossible and that one single article you keep referencing Saying that it is... is objectively wrong. Then you said both JB and Tryamkin’s agent said that he wouldn’t be returning this season. Neither of them said that and you didn’t bother to look or couldn’t find anything to support your claim about them ever saying that. You are also claiming that a bunch of other writers are saying that it is not possible for him to sign and yet when asked, you haven’t provided any of those references to support your claim. Are they some random fan page if they exist at all? I provided you with the actual Most recent Benning quote about the plan to talk after the KHL season is done. They didn’t say they would wait until April 30th. Benning has also said that he has kept regular contact with Tryamkin’s agent all along. There won’t be any point making any concrete plans until they know how long his KHL playoff run is. It will take Tryamkin asking for the early termination of his KHL contract once his team is out of the playoffs (no issue there). Then it will be for Benning to decide if he has the interest and space to add Tryamkin for the last few games of our season and playoffs. If you just said that you don’t think he is going to sign, that is fine. Continually saying here is ineligible... even now suggesting that a bunch of writers make that case... that is the problem because it just isn’t true. It is made worse by you then trying to turn your errors around and suggest it is posters here that are wrong in making up “fantasies” about it. Literally from the horse’s mouth (his agent). Nothing about next season, he keeps saying as soon as his season is done. Out of respect for his current team and their playoff hopes, we aren’t going to talk about it until that is done. As soon as that is done, there is plenty of time to come to engage with the Canucks and work something out. https://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040/diamond-tryamkin-returning-to-the-canucks-is-definitely-on-the-table-his-goal-is-to-return-to-vancouver-1.1429648
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[Speculation] Canucks interested in Wayne Simmonds
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
It isn’t quite that dire. There is a big difference between our need to prospects 5 years ago and now. Back then, basically every key player we had was on the downhill slide and had no one to replace them. Now, we already have a bunch of core roster spots filled with very young players, and hopefully won’t need prospects to replace those guys for close to a decade from now. The question now is whether we have the prospects to replace the remaining aging/expiring veterans. (Eriksson, Sutter, Beagle, Edler, Tanev, etc). The answer is we probably have the guys in the system at forward And in goal... and probably not on defence. No team ever manages to just use drafted prospects... every one has to fill holes with UFAs or trade excess pieces in one area to fill a need in another. -
He could have been traded with half the cap hit even before waived. A team can retain up to half salary/cap hit in a transaction. There is nothing extra for bring waived.
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You can’t do that, that is the reality, boy. Injured players can’t be demoted because they got injured. He stays on the NHL roster until he is fit to play. If there is a disagreement on whether he is medically fit, an independent evaluation will be done. If he gets medically cleared, and you demote him... you eat $2.5 million in cap hit anyways. Ferland has a guaranteed NHL contract.
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[Speculation] Canucks interested in Wayne Simmonds
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Except that isn’t the deal he was quoting. It was unloading Eriksson’s contract and Madden for Simmonds. -
[Speculation] Canucks interested in Wayne Simmonds
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I would too. Madden isn’t even a rookie yet, he is a prospect. A prospect that would defy the odds by actually playing a meaningful role in the league at 150lbs. The value of $18 million in cap space over the next three seasons could be put to more good than that. Maybe Madden turns out to be a 2nd line centre... but also maybe he doesn’t and maybe we turn that $18 million in cap space into retaining an important player or even filling a hole to make us better. -
You did say he wasn’t eligible to sign with us until next season, that was literally your entire point. Please cite where his agent and JB said he wasn’t going to play here this year. Benning clearly recently said, he would talk to Tryamkin’s agent after HIS season was done. Who knows if he ends up signing with us. He could and he might. He also might not. That is entirely different than your point of him not being able to or the sides saying he won’t.
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Well since we have already done a bunch of work for you to correct your misunderstanding... why don’t you provide your sources that say he isn’t eligible for the playoffs. Don’t bother to include the one that is already proven wrong by Tryamkin last own previous situation.
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Ya, loaned out wouldn’t be the right actual CBA term... He is eligible to play because he is on our reserve list. NCAA players can too, even if they weren’t signed to NHL contracts before the deadline.
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I have a very good example of a player who had their contract terminated early by his KHL team when they were done and came to play in the NHL mere days later (well before April 30th). Tryamkin. That is literally exactly what happened last time with him. It was even the same KHL team that he is playing for now. Hilariously delusional... He is on our reserve list so is not only eligible to play regular season games this season, but also in the playoffs.
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Retiring for medical reasons doesn’t lose him his money or void his contract. Any doctor on the planet would sign off that he is permanently injured. It just means we don’t have to account for him returning in our plans and could sign someone else with that money. Going above the cap in the summer is irrelevant to actually having to fit under the cap during the season. You can’t sign another guy with that $3.5 million until you know Ferland won’t be coming back for the duration of that term. He is a competitive guy and there is every likelihood that he will keep trying to come back.
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That is entirely a different point. If he doesn’t decide that he is done permanently and keeps rehabbing for a return... you have to leave space for him to come back. You can’t sign someone to replace him because then you are screwed if he returns.
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We can use it for the rest of this season (assuming he gets shut down), but unless he decides to retire permanently on his own... we can't sign someone to replace him for next season because we have to assume he comes back. So, no we don't get to use his LTIR space. Nor can we use that LTIR space for something like paying Petterson's ELC bonus... so having Ferland on LTIR even next season means it is much more difficult not to push the ELC bonuses into the next year.
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Except if he doesn't retire permanently, we have to account for him on our books and assume he will be playing each season... so we can't use that money. The cap does not go poof either, he goes onto LTIR which still counts towards the cap... it just allows us to exceed that cap. It will cause problems with ELC bonuses next year.
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[Speculation] Canucks interested in Wayne Simmonds
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I am suggesting that would be the cost of taking Eriksson off our hands. Not the low end prospects or late round picks people are suggesting. -
Certainly has to be shut down for the year now at the very least. It would be irresponsible for them to even allow him on the ice at this point. it will cause us issues not knowing his status next year, but we will have to figure it out.
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[Speculation] Canucks interested in Wayne Simmonds
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
They get Madden if they take Eriksson. People won’t like it, but it is pretty fair. -
That isn’t true. It is the norm for them to get released from their KHL contracts as soon as their season is done if they want to come over. He will be available as soon as his team is eliminated. Whether we sign him or not, who knows. If we get an injury post deadline, he would be one of very few options to add who would be eligible to play in the playoffs.
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Shed cap. If possible, shed cap with term left and take on a useful pending UFA rental coming back to help with depth for this playoffs. Use some futures to do this.
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Well, the pro-rated amount. We couldn't possibly do it as we don't have space. It would have to be a deal with at least equivalent money going the other way.
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That is a reasonable idea, but we would probably have to add for them to take on salary for next year. They won’t retain salary just for the sake of getting a waiver guy like Baertschi back. Maybe a prospect and conditional pick if he re-signs with us. They seem like they will want to (yet again) tear it down as they have a ton of players on expiring contracts. There is every possibility that the guy has just been beaten down by playing on Buffalo and has never been on winning teams or made the playoffs in his entire career (and you can’t pin that on him). He could play like a man possessed if actually given a chance to play meaningful games for once. He could also be a target in the offseason if his value has been hurt a lot and comes relatively cheap. It doesn’t make sense for Buffalo to just be demoting him as they don’t need to add for this season and it doesn’t clear enough cap space to eat a bad contract. Maybe it is just punitive for the guy wanting a trade and deciding to play the kids instead of wasting minutes on a pending UFA.
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[Report] Isles looking for Defensive Forward
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
This is the key... if we traded Eriksson today, we would still not have enough cap space by the end of the season to absorb the bonuses. We have to have everyone back from LTIR and demote all their replacements in order to start banking cap space. I still hold out a faint hope that there is some sort of unknown paper move trickery that made Petterson and Hughes into injury replacements and have their bonuses covered... but no one has ever found any evidence of such a thing, so we have to assume based on what we know. -
[Report] Isles looking for Defensive Forward
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Is there another Joe Thornton in the league that you are thinking about? Joe has 133 points in 174 career playoff games which is amazing output considering how much tighter and less scoring happens in the playoffs. He is also incredibly well respected by his peers around the league and by hockey people in general. If he goes to a playoff team he will be this year's Ray Bourque with most of the hockey world cheering him on. Everything he did over the line was to help his team win... no different than Kesler, Burrows, Lapierre, or any number of guys who have donned our jersey and we loved for it. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sedin-thornton-share-mutual-respect-fraternity-passers/ -
The Canucks lack of possession numbers and bleeding high danger chances
Provost replied to Patel Bure's topic in Canucks Talk
Yearly averages do hide trends. I haven’t drilled down the numbers but different pundits like Woodley who have access to expensive proprietary advanced stats (that we don’t) say that we have been bleeding chances pretty badly. He uses it to argue that Markstrom is worthy of the Vezina. Once you adjust for expected goals, he rises right to #1 in the league. -
[Report] Isles looking for Defensive Forward
Provost replied to Provost's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
You can do both... but I haven’t seen too many signs of that level of creativity from the management group to make me thing it would happen. LE for Ladd is effectively a lateral move, and puts us ahead cap wise which could be used to pick up a player like Simmonds. If you can do moves that season with our cap crunch and don’t hurt us in the short term, you still do that. Like is someone wanted Demko and was willing to take on a bad contract to get him... then we replaced him with a veteran like Miller... again, we end up no worse in the short term and way ahead in the long term.