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Have you given up on this season. Let's take a poll!
Provost replied to Ghostsof1915's topic in Canucks Talk
I am the one that gets heat when I put a post every (unfortunately every year lately) when we drop to between 20-25% chance to make the playoffs. The 20 game mark is where it starts to matter, or when you get to the point where you can’t even get to .500 by the 20 game mark (like 15 games in with just 7 points under your belt). It is important to note, and quite a few people don’t get this, that giving up on a season isn’t hating the team or being negative. It is just moving your horizon to the next year or later when the team has a more realistic shot at winning. GMs do this every year with deadline buyers and sellers. Unfortunately they also have to look out for their jobs in the short term so unless the team is truly awful, they hold onto increasingly unlikely remote playoff hopes even in the face of long odds. That means they make bad decisions chasing a forlorn hope that cost the franchise opportunity in future years. It isn’t impossible for the team to make the playoffs and we have a couple weeks to see where we sit. Having said that, I don’t really care about chasing the chance of a 1st round defeat. Nothing the team has shown for a long time suggests to me that this is a Stanley Cup roster. This is also the best version of this roster we will see as we owe raises to useful and currently underpaid players over the next successive seasons, meaning no cavalry coming on the horizon. I would happily give up on the season (and the next couple) if management decided to go on a FULL rebuild including Hughes, Petterson, Demko, and upwards in age. Projecting forward it just doesn’t seem like there is a realistic path to a Cup before we start losing guys like Petterson to UFA. -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign J.T. Miller
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I was actually wondering this… it seems like it should be possible. That could really add to Miller’s value if we don’t put ourself on a winning track. Retain 50% for some team that has high expectations for this season and give them time to ensure they have cap space next season. Miller may not be a 99 point guy, but a 60-80 point guy who can play all three forward positions at less than $3 million is pretty attractive. -
Yep… little comprehension if that is how he could read it. The billionaire owner and multi billion dollar corporation were using the popularity of the Sedins in a really classless and tasteless way. A naming extension that takes place in 22 and goes until 33? Yeesh, super cringe. They aren’t mascots. Trot them out for charitable or on ice events… not for corporate circle jerks.
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So not major news for fans… major news for the Aquilini pocketbook. Why even promote it as such if this is all it is. At least add in an announcement about going back to the black skate jersey permanently or something to give it “slightly major” status to fans. “Overpromise and Underdeliver” should not be the marketing catchphrase for a brand.
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Are we getting all the Megna’s? Announcing beer will now be $40 at games? After so much extra practice golfing, the team is leaving the PGA and going to be competing in the LIV circuit instead? We concede our chances in the draft lottery as a deal where we can only drop 2 spaces? Aquilini is going to stop paying team salaries until the players explain their $40,000 computers? Ryan Reynolds and that “other guy” have decided to buy the team and create a documentary about trying to get it promoted from the minor leagues? Arena naming rights purchased by the Weinstein Company? All season tickets holders will receive a free kick in the junk by Lui Passaglia to make watching games seem less unbearable in comparison? After years in inhumane captivity, Finn will be taken by ship to a remote section of coast and released into the wild? A heartfelt letter from ownership saying that the team is underperforming and they are going to undergo a complete rebuild. This will immediately be followed by the announcement we have traded Hughes and our next three 1st round picks for Erik Karlsson? TV rights will be carried by Russian state sponsored RT Television and Al Jazeera?
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… and honestly nothing stopping us from picking up an extra body anyways considering our injuries. If he gets the chance to play on the 4th line regularly, that is the type of player you can flip for a 3rd/4th round pick at the deadline. Big body defensive veteran who can play all three forward positions…. The kind of 13/14th forward a contender likes to have in their back pocket as insurance.
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No point as we got Strudnicka as the bandaid already. Just the point that 4th line players are always available and are a dime a dozen.
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Oh look, an experienced bottom six centre on a really cheap short term deal that is good on the PK on waivers. It is almost like you don't actually have to trade for players like that as bandaids and they are easily available for free....
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Predict The Score Contest: NJD @ VAN November 1 2022
Provost replied to goalie13's topic in Canucks Talk
4-2 Devils Palat -
[Discussion] Do You Have the Stomach For a Rebuild?
Provost replied to Warhippy's topic in Canucks Talk
You forgot to include us as one of those teams that has sucked. I think 4th or 5th worst overall since the start of Benning’s tenure. Worse if you calculate wins per dollar spent… the teams worse than us were budget teams not expecting to win, not capped out teams. We haven’t rebuilt and have stayed bad. I agree with your rebuild sentiment for sure though. We are already near the bottom of the league, we could actually trade away our valuable assets and end up better, or at least no worse. We almost certainly have to take veterans back who don’t have much term left to make cap money work in big trades even if we don’t particularly want or need them. If Hughes and Hoglander went out to Jersey and aside from a boatload of their prospects and picks in return they neeed to send Severson and Tatar our way to make the cap work… we are probably better in the short term (until we flipped them for picks at the deadline). -
[Discussion] Do You Have the Stomach For a Rebuild?
Provost replied to Warhippy's topic in Canucks Talk
No one who is even a likely NHLer at this point. No one near the level of Horvat who was sitting there when the last regime took over. -
I say that trading for a player who isn't able to crack a roster and has the "potential" to be that type of player IF everything goes well... and costs double what an equivalent level player in free agency on the waiver wire... ya that isn't a great piece of work. We weren't willing to pay Stecher much less and he was already Stecher level. I did say that I am not going to rake them over the coals for this one, at least there is some sense to it.
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Well if you look at is as a whole… we traded a 2nd round pick to get rid of Dickenson so we would have cap room to give a 5th round pick to pick up Bear with that newfound cap space instead of a guy under a million. We also gave up one of our best D prospects to replace Dickenson who we traded to make room for Bear. so we net out… Minus Dickenson Myrenberg Dipetro 2nd round pick 5th round pick Add Bear Pederson Stillman Some cap space for future seasons we don’t owe Dickenson Give it a week and better options will be available on the waiver wire when we have high priority.
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Not cost controlled… He is an RFA after this season and not signed, he will not be worth his QO. He also isn’t really physical and is quite small. It is a bandaid as he isn’t as good as three of our healthy RD. If your expectation is that his possible upside could be to be as good as Stecher was for us in his top years… that is realistic. That is also kind of the best case scenario so don’t lose your minds if he has a good few games right after the trade trying to prove himself and then settles into less than Burroughs.
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Meh… It does make the Strudnicka trade even weirder. We brought back another centre of the Strudnicka level in Pederson in this trade. I am not going to rake them over the coals for this move… there is at least some sense behind it. Whether it works or not who knows. Bear is outplayed by Chatfield but certainly has more upside and it could just be a situational issue on the Hurricanes. There is a reasonable chance he turns it around and is at least a reliable 3rd pairing D which turns it into a win. If we are still in a terrible spot come the trade deadline we could probably flip him for a 3rd or 4th round pick. If he is trash we can just no qualify him in the summer. The larger picture is that I just don’t believe there is any point in trying to salvage the season at this point . We have already modified our goals to hoping to get within spitting distance of the playoffs this season. My only goal is the team being a contending team and winning the Cup. This move doesn’t really make any difference one way or the other. I wish we had have signed Stecher still as a depth piece. Low salary, he is playing almost 20 minutes a night on a terrible Arizona team. He is good enough to fill in during injuries like we have and was super popular in the dressing room.
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5 points in 4 games in limited bottom six minutes. Definitely worth giving away a 2nd round pick to save a very small amount of cap space. Even better that we have had to give up one of our very few defence prospects to replace him with an objectively worse player.
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Predict The Score Contest: PIT @ VAN Oct 28 2022
Provost replied to goalie13's topic in Canucks Talk
6-2 Penguins Rakell -
[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Seattle Kraken | Oct. 27, 2022
Provost replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Woohooo!!! On pace for 41 points instead of 23 points for the season! Dumb tankers need to shut up!