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The reality is these measures may have some effect, but ultimately over time around others, that protection will diminish to nothing. If you are around someone who has COVID-19, six feet distance will not protect you, groups of six people will not protect you, and a mask that only filters a certain percentage of COVID-19 will not protect you. We're also not accounting for human error. The reality is all the people who are lecturing the "anti-maskers", don't wear masks 100% of the time, you break distancing, and your around different people all day. If you wear a cloth mask, which is what most people are buying because they have cool styles and stuff, it's as effective as not wearing a mask. Studies have proven them to be ineffective against the flu, and a flu virus is slightly bigger than COVID-19 There are more cases now because testing is more frequent than earlier this year. We've actually tested 20% of BC. Not to mention the false positive rates are disturbingly high. Most of the time, the deaths always include some other serious illnesses (including the flu + pneumonia). Also how many people had the virus but never got tested for it? Unfortunately the stats are not reliable. The odds of any of us catching the virus are extremely low. If any of us caught the virus, the odds of survival are extremely high. When you're gambling, do you play your hand with the best odds or go all-in with the low odds? Because right now we're all-in on assuming we're all risking death, and it's stupid. Wear a mask if you want, but the argument and protest is that they should not be mandatory for everyone because like it or not, people think differently than and make different choices than you do. You or the anti-masker have different worldviews and you could learn from each other. All in all, I'm not mad at anyone. I'm not buying into the fear hysteria. I just want us all to start understanding each other. We're not on teams. We're Canadians. There should be a way we can do this where our rights aren't infringed upon and all voices are heard, etc.

Sorry Mark, you meant nothing to this fan base.

This is the type of culture we're building here in Vancouver. So proud of what we're doing guys.

I just watched the ending. Looks like he was drunk and trying to have fun while the others were wanting to have a civil discussion. He left upon request, so not too much harm done.

It just makes themselves feel better, like they're "doing their part" and it gives them some sort of green light to attack anyone that's concerned about their freedoms. I love how people who are wearing masks no longer distance and I guess they feel safe now. None of the measures work, it makes no difference. Oh and the table one is the best. Wear a mask while entering the restaurant, but once you sit at the table you are 100% safe. Lol.

Yup. Also, government websites will tell us cloth masks are not effective and should not be used by front line workers, but they're suitable for the public. Lol.

That's a very simplistic and lazy approach to equate piss to a viral infection spread through your saliva. COVID-19 is 0.06-0.14um in size. Studies have been done to measure the filtration of particles in the range of 0.3-0.5 um. Surgical masks had the greatest filtration, with a 74-90% efficacy. Therefore there's always a likely chance your breath, jaw movement, cough, speech, or sneeze is spreading particles at that size. This is all in assumption that people are following the measures 100% of the time, not accounting for human-error. This also proves that those super trendy homemade masks and cloth masks are absolutely useless, as they are nowhere near as effective as a surgical or N95. So forgive us for questioning the mask mandates.

Thank you for your time here Mark Donnelly, many great memories, and ultimately that's what I'll remember. Unlike others on here, I won't treat you as if you're sub-human for having issues with the mask mandates. As a Canadian, you are free to express your thoughts and opinions and I encourage you to continue that path. Unfortunately the Canucks ownership will only employ those with the correct opinions, so hopefully the message was sent with you as an example or I'm sure some trades will be lined up. It's unfortunate that ownership decided to shame you publicly, I guess you really meant nothing to them. Oh well, good luck with your next endeavors. Hopefully you will be allowed to express your beliefs elsewhere.

We sure love Mark Donnelly, but oh no he has a different opinion on the masks so &^@# him, throw him under the bus. Very great message we're sending here guys. Smh.

I never once claimed to have all the answers, I was just looking for a discussion. Oh well, sorry, I'll just leave because my ideas are dangerous. We wouldn't want to have a discussion on all of the factors in play. A very welcoming and open-minded community we have here. Have a good day.

Of the active cases we have right now, there is a 99.4% chance of having a mild condition. Meaning there is a 0.6% chance of possibly experiencing something like that. With effective therapeutics available, that chance would go way down.

Yeah I'm sure their fine.

Did you post misinformation? Or perhaps other posters on here? I've corrected people many times, I don't claim that what they were spreading was dangerous. It's a discussion. I've also sourced my statements more than others have on here as well. This seems more like I'm being attacked for not having the correct opinion.

Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare. fixed.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7235297/ https://aleteia.org/2020/11/26/lockdown-leads-one-retirement-home-resident-to-assisted-suicide/

So from what I've read, the vaccine potentially has a 70-95% efficacy rate, my point was my odds of immunity are still better if I catch it (according to the stats). Building immunity means your body has defeated the virus and you can't get the same strain again. That's consistent with viral infections. How is that wrong? I trust that I will defeat it since it is very much like a bad flu, with a potential loss of taste and smell. Look up covid19 testimonials.

What a great way to frame things for those seniors. Sorry seniors, you're going to have to stay in isolation with no human contact, we'll treat your suicidal feelings eventually, because otherwise you're going to 100% get a violent pneumonic reaction and die. Make sure you watch lots of CNN, never question what you are told, and DON'T work towards strengthening your immune system, that's dangerous misinformation. Okay I think I got it guys. Makes sense.

I'm a colossal dick? How kind of you. Mental health issues can be treated? Is that why depression and anxiety are rampant and a problem within everyone's life? I didn't realize these issues were so incredibly easy to treat. I'm sure those seniors will be fine then. I'm so glad I have experts like you to make ridiculous claims and attack me, it's so reassuring.

How many more lockdowns? I don't think anyone knows, because it looks like we're going to experience a spike every winter season. I was primarily talking about seniors in care homes who are feeling suicidal because not only are they in a care home, but now they can't go out or see family and friends. I care about that, because the answer to that would be removing the lockdown, and all I'm saying is maybe there's better way to handle this, but those ideas are either censored or labelled dangerous misinformation, and I get called selfish by the experts on here. All I'm calling for is a larger discussion, but apparently that's frowned upon.

Yeah I'm just looking out for myself when I advocate that people should celebrate a healthy lifestyle and build their immune system. Very dangerous misinformation. We should simply stay locked down until everyone is vaccinated with a rushed vaccine, killing all small business, and risking a global depression That's definitely the best strategy here, there's definitely no other way to handle this without looking out only for myself.

Once again, never said a strong immune system will prevent COVID, though maybe it's possible, no one knows at this point. I said I trust my immune system to defeat it. That's unfortunate that you don't like to hear different ideas and perspectives, labelling them dangerous. Did you know there are doctors out there that have said this strategy involving lockdowns and masks are not effective? They unusually get censored. So are we listening to the scientists and health experts, or only the ones with the ideas that are allowed?

Picture myself stuck in isolation, feeling suicidal because I can't go out or see my family or friends? Yeah it sounds miserable. Maybe lockdowns aren't the answer? Oh sorry, I'm not allowed to question that. Never mind.

I never claimed this is a method to prevent it, although maybe possible who knows. If I get it, I trust my immune system to defeat it. That's all I meant.

We would have more resources to deal with those scenarios. People have had complications and have even died from vaccines before.