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[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
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[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
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[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
5. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) 5. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW, Halifax Mooseheads Derek Leung/Getty Images Nikolaj Ehlers The Stats: 63GP, 49-55-104 with Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) The Story: Ehlers may be the most exciting offensive player in the draft. His numbers are among the best in this group, and his style points are spectacular. He is an impact offensive prospect. What Makes Him Special? Ehlers is quick, intelligent and creative. Ryan Kennedy from the Hockey News puts it this way: An incredibly skilled forward, Ehlers makes plays at high speeds and doesn’t mind going to the tough areas in order to score. Scouts see him as an excellent complementary player and have even hesitantly brought up teammate Jonathan Drouin as a comparable, as lofty as that sounds. -
I love when fans bring up the Cam Neely trade like he would have turned out to be the same player he was in Boston if he had remained in Vancouver. Playing with Ray Bourque had a lot to do with his success not sure Vancouver had anyone in Rays level at time and later he played with one of the top playmakers of all time Adam Oates. It impossible to say he would of had the same success in Van.
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[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
Combination of skill, maturity, hockey IQ, hands, speed, patience, and size makes the Boston College-bound prospect one of the most complete players in this year's draft class. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
How many games have you seen live of both? One, two .. none? Please explain how does a scout do his/her job. Would love to hear how you see a scout doing their job? Cause you know every player the Scouts pick in the top ten always turn out to develop just the way they were ranked. No one player below the top ten out performs the top ranked players. Tuch is pretty close to Ritchie in every way, Ritchie might have a slight advantage now but in 5 years from now we will see. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
Did I upset you with Tuch being just as good as Ritchie? Be careful using the word "daft" you are pretty close to being the prefect meaning for the word. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you I like Ritchie ( even though you have seriously over hype what you can do) and would not be unhappy if we drafted him but would be happier with Ehlers or any one of the top 5 that could fall, heck even Tuch has just as much upside as Ritchie. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
He lacks in speed, play making and has been found to be lazy. He is not that big of a player other than his weight. He will not be playing in the NHL at that weight if he wants to be able to keep up to the pace of the NHL game. Just about every power forward in the NHL has lost weight to keep up with the high pace. He does not have anything specail in hockey IQ and it could be a problem for him when the pace of the game in the NHL is a lot faster. He has more flaws than you want to admit because all you see is size( not that big) and shot, everything else is average. Again you love to over hype and no Ehlers is far from being a savior, but I guess you are suggesting Ritchie is going to be( I mean he so complete of a player that his numbers are outstanding) -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
Complete package means elite scoring and play making with the ability to play in all three zone without being a liability. Complete meaning able to play away from the puck, but complete with the puck mean elite scoring and play making. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
I going to answer that ridiculous question with a ridiculous over hype of the kid "nothing, he is perfect he going to be the best power forward ever in the NHL!" The kid lacks in nothing". " His impressive numbers of 70 points is because he lacks in nothing and he has tools no other players have!" Why is he not number one, the scout must be blind" " A sure not miss NHL power forward that dominated the OHL with unbelievable numbers!" " His shot is so fast, accurate and hard it is unbelievable he did not get 70 goals!" " He hits so hard I'm surprised half the OHL is not injured after playing against him!" Once again do not over hype the kid! I could care less if the Canucks took him or any of the top 8. I do prefer the canucks take someone with better overall skill like Ehlers, but Ritchie would be good too. Just do not think he is special and too many people here over hyping him. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
No, he is not the complete package if he was he be in the top 3 from all scouts not just one. I'm not saying do not draft him, but do not over hype him. -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
OK then! did you see any of the players listed play when they were playing in the CHL ? Have you even seen Ritchie play live ? -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
Better than half did! The point is there have been many players his size who put similar or a lot better numbers, even Chris Dingman. You asked for 5 players, thinking you were clever and no one could come up with such a list. I did know what? -
[Nick Ritchie] Junior Point totals vs Getzlaf, Lucic, and Nash
Vancanwincup replied to Merci's topic in Canucks Talk
Nikita Alexeev Hugh Jessiman Eric Fehr Anthony Stewart Drew Stafford Ryan O'Marra Martin Hanzal Chris Stewart Greg Nemisz Kris Beech Taylor Pyatt Denis Shvidki Scott Kelman Mark Bell Mike Rupp Jeff Heerema Eric Chouinard Matt Zultek Ty Jones Dainius Zubrus Chad Kilger Steve Kelly Jason Bonsignore Ethan Moreau Wayne Primeau Chris Dingman Jason Botterill Chris Wells -
176 lbs of nothing but muscle would be more accurate on a 18 year old kid. Easy to see him being 185 by the age of 20 -21.
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What size are we refer to under 5'11 than "yes" but at around 5'11 and 6" "no".
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Another thing being ignored by BanTSN and BurgerKing is the fact that Elthers is doing this in a transition year from one league to another this is very uncommon. The whole argument is getting out of hand does it really matter who actually gets picked ,because no one on this forum has any more insight into drafting NHL players than anyone else on this forum. The only deference being is some like the big, checking, skilled player and others like the smaller, faster, more skilled player. Then there are those who just want a good draft pick regardless of his strength and weaknesses. Everyone wants what is best for the Canucks and we do not have control of that. So basically this topic comes down to self involved " I know better than you do" argument of self important people.( I fell into this trap at first so I'm no better).
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I do not know why you keep responding to him I mean come on he believes P. Kane is sheltered in Chicago,
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The above could possible be the most "out to lunch " thing I have ever read.
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You can’t get much hotter than Nikolaj Ehlers is right now. The Halifax Mooseheads winger has 17 goals in his last eight games, including hat tricks in three straight games last week. The recently turned 18-year-old from Denmark already has the second most points (97 in 59 games) ever for a Mooseheads rookie, although it’s worth noting the franchise record (126) was set by Ladislav Nagy in 1998-99 when he was 19. “I know it’s going pretty well but I couldn’t have done this without my teammates,” Ehlers said. “We’re on a winning streak right now and sometimes you’re a bit lucky when you’re winning. Sometimes goals happen that wouldn’t normally go in. I’ve been lucky the past few games. But we have been playing good hockey and you can see when you watch our games that I’m just getting goals because the team is playing well.” The offensive outburst is all part of a season that has trended in one direction only for Ehlers: straight up. He started well, posting 23 points in his first 20 games, then improved to 27 points in his next 16 games. He now has 48 points in his past 23 games. Overall, he has 47 goals and 50 assists, putting him fourth in QMJHL scoring. He also leads the Q at plus-61, which gives him a chance to break Nagy and MacKenzie Weegar’s team record of plus-55. Ehlers could also become just the fifth Quebec league rookie in the past 25 years to record 50 goals. Nagy, Sidney Crosby, Daniel Briere and Yanic Perreault are the others. “As soon as we saw him in training camp, we knew how speedy he was,” said Halifax winger Darcy Ashley. “Anybody that’s fast like that and has some skill to go with it, they’re going to be an electrifying player. I think you saw before Christmas how good he was but he’s really taken off after the world juniors. He’s got a lot of confidence right now and he’s got one of the best shots in the league. He’s also one of the quickest skaters so if you put that together, it’s a pretty dangerous combination.” The upward trend has not gone unnoticed in the scouting community. Ehlers is eligible for this year’s NHL draft but did not appear as a potential first-round pick on any pre-season lists. He has since risen into the top 10 in most rankings, checking in as high as No. 3 with one scouting service. “Sometimes you think about the draft and I heard there were a lot of scouts at the Moncton game (last Saturday),” said Ehlers, who had one of his hat tricks that night. “Of course it’s nice to have a good game when the scouts are watching but when I go on the ice, if there’s 30 scouts or zero, I don’t really care. I want to go out there, do my best, play for the team and get the win. “I’m not thinking a lot about the draft. There are still a lot of games left in the season, I hope. I just want to go out there and do whatever I can do to make our season as long as possible. That’s what I’m thinking about right now.” From a skill point of view, there is very little Ehlers can’t do. He might be the fastest skater in the Quebec league, is arguably the most accurate shooter and the only Q playmaker who is clearly superior to him is Halifax teammate Jonathan Drouin. Perhaps the only knock is his listed weight of 163 pounds, but he’s five-foot-11 and scouts are smart enough to realize he will fill out as he gets older. “He’s one of those players who might not be as big as some of the other guys in the draft right now but scouts are looking at two or three years down the road,” Ashley said. “If you want someone on your team who can score goals, you’re not going to be looking for an 18-year-old to do that right away. You’re looking for a guy to do that starting when he’s 21 or 22. Nik’s a guy that will put on size. When you can skate like that and when he puts on 20 pounds or maybe even grows an inch or two, he’s going to be a superstar in the NHL.” Scouts also notice how fearless Ehlers is. He never backs down from a bodycheck, even going so far as to seek out hard contact. “One of the biggest things we noticed right away is he plays like a North American,” Ashley said. “I think sometimes it takes Euros time to adjust, coming from the big ice and maybe not being used to the game being as physical over there. But he looks forward to the physical play. He’s a big gamer. When you have someone on your team like that, it brings a sense of leadership. He’s a first-year player but he’s someone the guys look up to because of the way he plays.” If Ehlers had to put his finger on it, he said his rapid adjustment on the ice has everything to do with his easy transition away from the rink. He admitted to being apprehensive about the culture change prior to leaving Europe for Canada but has found it much easier to adapt than he expected. “I definitely thought that it was going to be harder coming over,” Ehlers said. “It was so far away from home and I was playing on a different size ice against new players. But the guys on the team really helped me and everyone here has done so much to make it easy for me. I think the adjustment went really fast. It gave me a good feeling about all of it. I’m really happy right now with my decision.” The Mooseheads put their nine-game winning streak on the line tonight on the road against the Saint John Sea Dogs. About the Author WILLY PALOV SPORTS REPORTER E-Mail: wpalov@herald.ca Twitter: @CH_WillyPalov From the War Room Eldon MacDonald, THW: A few words on Nikolaj Ehlers: Skills – High-end top speed and acceleration combined with amazing agility, Jonathan Drouin class back-hander, elite wrister, adept at changing direction and flow of the play. Maybe not quite Jonathan Drouin class in all areas just yet but his improvements to date have him heading in that direction. Shows up – Shows up for work every game with a determination to make a difference every game. His league leading +41 shows just what a difference he is making. Not a perimeter guy – Goes to the net, spends time in the paint, works the cycle. Keeps getting better – Just when you think he is topped out, he shows a new skill or improves on an old one. Size – Size and strength are still issues but he is well aware that he needs to add weight and strength. As he is not a perimeter player and plays at a dynamic tempo with amazing skills, this issue will reduce going forward to where it becomes close to a non-issue. Draft placement – He is all over the map in the rankings. However, if he keeps improving on his dynamic play as he has so far this year, I could see him pushing the top 10 by the end of the year. - See more at: http://thehockeywriters.com/nikolaj-ehlers/#sthash.DKQMbvDe.dpuf Editor’s Note I finally got to see this phenomenal talent live at the CHL Top Prospects Game in Calgary after relying on video for previous analysis. His stickhandling often left me speechless, but I did come up with this description from the press box: I can envision Ehlers stickhandling deftly through Shanghai traffic in rush hour. - See more at: http://thehockeywriters.com/nikolaj-ehlers/#sthash.DKQMbvDe.dpuf
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That's the problem Linden was talking about 4 lines that can score, not having a line full of grinders. Ehlers out works most players on the ice to go along with his skill, so not a problem.
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I can not even begin with the flaw of this comment.
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OK, did not think any one could be that dense.
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Did you read the comment right or did you not read the stats right, go back read both carefully before looking like giant a hole.