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Everything posted by ForsbergTheGreat
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Couldn't have happened, cap was dropping and we couldn't afford to have 10 million wrapped up in two starting goalies.
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Honestly that means zero. A GM wants his assistant to look at a guy who they have the potential to pick. I guarantee Gillman personally has watched/will watch all players ranked in the top 10 before the draft. Their jobs our on the line if they make a bad decision, zero chance they do that without doing their own research.
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I'm sick of all the CDC scouts who think they know more than the pro's. Not many pro scouting, in fact i've only seen 1 final scouting report had Ehlers in the top 10. We pick 6th and people want to jump all over him.
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nice moves by matthias
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All posted in april http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9363 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=710956 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712635 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712639
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I've heard Tallon say good things about him but never said he thinks he goes in the top 5. He said they may look into him as an option of a high risk winger But he was also brought up since he was talking about the team already, he didn't go out of his way to talk about him. Unless I'm watching a different video. I don't see him going in the top 10, similar to the way shinkaruk fell I can see him dropping to. Lots of potential but high risk, and when you pick in the top 10 you can't afford to miss, especially in a vancouver market Linden would be eating up in 4 years if the kid turned out to be a bust Filatov Connolly Burmistrov Paajarvi Hamill All high skilled/ high risk talented forwards pick in the 6-10, lots do turn out but lots don't. As much as people want to down play playing with drouin it does open up room for a small player to skate.
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I really don't understand why so many people are so high on Ehlers, I'm yet to see one final draft list by pro scouts with him in the top 10. We currently look geared to pick 7-9 what would we pick someone projected to be in the 12-15 range. Perhaps CDC scouts know something the pro scouts don't???
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[Confirmed] Jim Benning signs as new Canucks GM
ForsbergTheGreat replied to TheRussianRocket.'s topic in Canucks Talk
Nope Trevor will sign Iggy and iggy will also bring cammalerri in aswell Sedin Sedin Burrows Iggy Kesler Cammalerri Doesn't help this team get any younger unfortunatly -
Sturm turned into Cassels,
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Good old Alberta boy Good on Trevor
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No i'm thinking of feaster who attempted to sign O'Rielly and if was successfully not only lose O'reilly on waivers but also lost out on their first round monnahan pick this year. I'm thinking of the feaster that traded the 14th overall pick in 2012 and drafted Jankowski instead of picking teravainen, hertl, Maatta, Laughton, Ceci, Wilson, Girgensons, who were all pick right after the 14th overall selection.
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I just heard on HNIC radio that Kes and sedins have voiced their displeasure about Torts, saying he is worse than AV and brings little to the team in terms of a system. I don't know where there sources are from just thought it was interesting
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NO if feaster comes in he's going to trade our 1st for a jokinen type player, or sign an offer sheet to a player and end up losing our first overall pick. Feaster is a GM you bring in if you want to remain uncompetative for the next 10 years, not a gm who knows how to properly rebuild
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Well when your at the top for 2 straight years there's only one way to go. Not to many teams can stay at the top that long. Gillis was the only reason this team remained somewhat competative this year. Imagine where this team would be at without the likes of Santo, Tanev, Richardson. When the core was failing it was the money ball depth signings that kept this team in it, without it we'd be even worse off. I'm not going to have an opinion on who ever gets hired until they have some time to put their stamp on this team, But one thing is forsure, this team finally has some exciting youth and if we start dealing them to squeak into playoffs next year. I will be one unhappy fan. Honestly the more I think about it the more I feel I have to explain this. This team was at the top of their game in 2011, players were healthy and in their prime. 2012, we still we president trophy winners but we could all notice a start of decline. Gillis has two options at this point: Start dealing youth to surround this core with more fire power and remain in the leagues elite, or Realize that the core is past it's due and start building towards a transition. I'm glad he chose option "b" and realized that by not trading away youth this team would start to fall to middle of the league. What I didn't predict was the top lines slumping so bad that this team failed to make playoffs.
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They (TSN) has 24hr or else their source is made up. Anyone could predict a change is coming with this team, not really going out on the limb. But the fact that they say "today or tomorrow" would show a clear cut line of them being right or wrong. If proven to be wrong, all 3 need to be put in the Eklund tank for a while.
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[PGT] OFFICIALLY ELIMINATED FROM THE PLAYOFF RACE
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Del Rio's topic in Canucks Talk
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Players don't just drop off like that. Especially ones who have the work ethic like the twins, Torts has no idea how to use skill players. Look at Nash and Richards, this team needs a coach who knows how to coach an offensive skill game. Thats the way this team is built.
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(TEMP GDT) Anaheim Ducks @ Vancouver Canucks
ForsbergTheGreat replied to cleowin's topic in Canucks Talk
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I watched the game the crowed wasn't sold out but is was packed and fans were going nuts. Way louder than Rogers arena.
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[GDT] Canucks - Kings Saturday April 5th 7:00 PM
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Alex the Great's topic in Canucks Talk
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No it was against Biron who said Lack will "never" be a number 1 goalie in the league.
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Calgary didn't just hold on to their core, they tried to add to it, costing them youth and picks. Calgary's core was never considered elite, hence the 5 playoff apperances in 15 years. But again thats not even the main point but the only thing you take out of that. Selective reading.... The main demise of clagary that you evidently failed to even look at is the fact that Calgary has landed only one single impact player in 15 years of drafting in their first round (multiple pick in the top 10). That player they traded away and now they are left with a 3rd line center as a result. It’s hard to build a team when you have little assets being generated within your own organization. They haven’t been good at drafting nor have they been able to pick up undrafted talent, add that to the fact that Calgary is not a hot spot for UFA’s to sign. You are then left with an old team and zero left in reserve. Calgary was simply a poorly run organization, you have to fill up the tank at some point before it eventually will run out. Calgary didn’t have a backup plan to what life after Iggy would be like (unless they thought Jankowski was their saviour). Kipper is the best example of not planning for the future, they knew he was going to retire but instead of going out and looking for a goaltender to learn and develop under kipper they went out and picked up a washed back up in Mcdonald. Canucks now have 3 goalies to fight for that number 1 spot over the next 3 years and lack who’s been learning from one of the best, this year. Canucks probably could have got more in terms of trading Cory, say a current scorer who’s at the tail end of his prime, but what Gillis do, refilled his tank in one of the deepest drafts,. not just adding on that "missing piece" which everyone seems to thing will put this team over the top. Canucks were rumoured to trade a first/Horvat for a Ladd type player. Would canucks have made the playoffs, sure but we'd also hurt our future. Flames didn't care about their future they wanted playoffs at any cost. The first year the flames missed the playoffs, how many players under 25 did they have? Until 2012 when they drafted Baertschi they had no one in there system who had any sort of promise. That’s 3 years of missed playoffs and zero youth in stock and zero youth in their lineup. Canucks are going to be year one in missing playoffs and already have young players making an impact in the NHL, and young players at the top of their current leagues. Even if your opinion of them isn’t very high they are still miles ahead of what flames had at that time. They don't all have to turn out to be NHL regulars but its not a stretch to think 1 or 2 picks exceeds everyones expectations and turns out to be a real bright spot for this teams future. But wait your smarter than that, you take the Sedins age with their decline in production and the canucks/flames cup run and draw conclusions. Ignore the fact the canucks were back to back president trophy winners. Ignore the fact that canucks have youth currently in their lineup, Ignore the fact that canucks have 10x the better prospect pool than the flames their first missed playoffs. Ignore the fact that our winning team was built within the last 15 years through our own drafting and player development. Ignore the fact that we have assets to move if need be. Like I said both canucks and flames have a “C” in their crest you might want to use that as a statement of how canucks will inevitably become the flames. You bring those statements (your opinions) without any sort of factual evidence to back up the “full extent” of your claim (Calgary’s real underlying root of their collapse), and spew it off as it’s supposed to mean something. The only people you will convince are the people who are as clueless as yourself. And Toronto fans, they will believe anything that puts down the canucks. Now I’ve seen oldnews post countless times the full extent of the flames situation and then you ignore the cold hard facts and continue rambling on just goes that you don’t have an actually rebuttal to the facts, so instead of admitting defeat, you change topic of just reword what you’ve already been saying. It starts to get a bit redundant. It’s not even worth debating about because it’s the same old, same old, each time. Wallstreet: “Mortal combat is the best” Oldnews:“Actually gross sales and all games review show that donkey Kong is the best game ever” Wallstreet: “Donkey Kong sucks, Mortal combat is better” Oldnews: “While mortal combat does good at….Donkey Kong is better because (fact, fact, fact)” Two days later… Wallstreet: Mortal combat is the best
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I would think that would do it. But thats only if Subban comes right out and says "i'm not signing another contract in MTL. Trade me to Vancouver" Which wouldn't happen
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I would argue the opposite. The only similarity is the Sedins age as compared to Iginla’s. That’s it, besides the fact that both teams Logos have a “C”. It’s been pointed out over and over on this board how vastly different the two teams are/were and the fact that people are bring up the same argument just shows how little foresight they really have. Quick, without looking it up team me an impact player that flames drafted in the first round from 1999-2012. The flames problem is that they were never a top elite team. They had one miracle run where they finished 6th in their conference and they felt they could do it again. They hit their peak in 2006 and gambled on that core, going all in, acquiring players to add the “missing pieces” they felt would put them over the top, Jokinen, Cammalleri. The gambled failed. And it cost the flames youth and picks, similar to what people on CDC call for Gillis to do. Flames tried failed. Calgary’s decline started 15 years ago with terrible drafting, long before Sutter’s final year, long before Feaster. Now take a look at was the canucks have down. The only assets we’ve traded in the last 3 years were expendables. Gillis has been quietly building up for the next core. It’s the reason why this team doesn’t have to go into full rebuild mode.