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What about WPG, FLA, CBJ even TO and NYI? All have multiple top 5/10 picks and are not better because of it. CLB have had 11 out of the last 14 years where they have had a top 10 picks (5 in the top 5), this year could be the 2nd time in 16 years they make the playoffs and still are buy no meaning contending with the teams of the west in a 7 game series. Jets have had 12 out of 15 years (going back to Atlanta) they have picked in the top 10. (6 of them were #4 or better) Now by rebuilding goes this team should be a cup contender every year. What happened NYI are another team who has had 7 top 10 draft picks (5 of them in the top 5) in the last 8 years. Now The Blackhawks missed the playoffs 9 out of 10 years from 99-2008. And in that time they had 6 Top 10 picks (3 of those were #3 or better), only two of those players have made any difference to their cup runs. Sounds to me like Hawks and Pits are the exceptions as they are the only one who've won the cup lately based on their abundance top 5 of picks.
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We basically need 1 team to really slip and looking at some of the teams schedules it could happen. LA is currently on a 3 games losing streak. They play CAPS X2, FLA, PHI, PITS in their next 5. It’s not that realistic but not impossible, Caps are on a 3 game winning streak, if LA could go 1-4 or 0-5 they would be at 82 or 84 points with 74 games played. If canucks win their next 3 that would put us 2-4 points behind the kings with only 1 game in hand and 7 games remaining. We also play the kings April 5th. We could we catch them. MIN, similar to the kings situation, Wild play NJ, DET x2, VAN, STL MIN could go 1-4 or 0-5 they would be at 82 or 84 points with 74 games played Once again if canucks win their next 3 that would put us 2-4 points behind the Wild with only 1 game in hand and 7 games remaining. PHX likely has the hardest next 5 games FLA, BOS, NYR, PITS, NJ We need to count on or old goalies to come up big and hope PHX goes 1-4 or 0-5. If they do they’d only be at 77-79 points with 74 games played Once again if canucks win their next 3 that would put us 1-3 “AHEAD” of the coyotes with only 1 game in hand and 7 games remaining DAL is also cold and had a few rough games getting pummelled back to back, their next 5 they face PHI, OTT, WPG, CHI, NSH Stars could go 1-4 or 2-3 they would be at 77 or 79 points with 74 games played Once again if canucks win their next 3 that would put us 1-3 “AHEAD” of the stars with only 2 games in hand and 7 games remaining. We also need to remember that they have a postpone game to finished where they will start the second period down by a goal. The other thing to remember is all the teams play each other at least once more in their remaining 7 games, it is important that those games do not go into OT and it will guarantee a loss for one of those teams a game canucks will need to take advantage of. Other things to note Luongo plays PHX, DAL, and LA yet this year Schneider plays PHX and MIN yes this year Could our old goalies do us a favor and help us out? The likely hood the canucks make the playoffs is slim, but no one could deny the excitement if they pulled off a miracle and did, especially if they go in hot. Anyone who says they want the team to lose the rest of the games would be right back on the bandwagon, once again cheering for this team to win. I’m not guaranteeing canucks make playoffs but, there’s still a chance. I’d rather look foolish believing/hoping in something with the odds stack against us, than to look foolish by writing a team off and have them prove me wrong and embarrassingly hop back on the cheering train. End of story.
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PHX 69 GP 77 P VAN 72 GP 74 P 72-69 = 3 77-74 = 3 Phoenix is 3 points up and has 3 games In hand
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We atleast took the kings to 5 games What other team did better in the west?? Would it made you feel better if we lost to the king in 5 games in the conference finals? But you had a good day tho... NEXT please
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I’ll put it a way you can relate to, Which goalie played the majority of the games in those last 3 series? He’s no longer on this team or a cancer in the dressing room. ha Second, the early exit against the kings had nothing to do with a poor showing, We were just the unlucky team to face the kings in the first round. It didn’t matter if we faced them in the conference final, we still weren’t beating them. But I guess if that did happen we would stop hearing all the talk about an early exit that year.
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First of all, So your saying players picked 8-10 are going to be that much more of an impact compared to the players picked 11-14. Difference between the players picked at 8-10 to 11-14 is a lot smaller than you think. A good WJ touney or a bad playoff game. Second of all your theory about TO is completely false, TO's last 9 (actually only 7 + one lock out year) years of playoffless drafting they pick "once" in that 11-14th range. In 2006 when they picked jiri Tlusty which was not bad considering Sheppard, Frolik, and Brassard were picked in the 8-10. 2006 13th overall 2007 traded away 2008 5th overall 2009 7th overall 2010 traded away 2011 traded away 2012 5th overall Sometimes things sound right in your head but it's always best to go back and do your reseach before you throw out statements and proclaim them as facts.
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PGT Canucks win 4-3! Over panthers
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Ryan kesler the beast's topic in Canucks Talk
But but Jensen wasn't picked in the top 10 how can this be??? -
PGT Canucks win 4-3! Over panthers
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Ryan kesler the beast's topic in Canucks Talk
First of all I believe that if the canucks do make the playoffs, they have a good chance of making a deep run, We’ve had the blue number all year and Ana is hitting a bit of a road block right now and don’t have the depth to compete with a healthy canucks team. Only reason I pointed of the four games is that is the bare minimum this team would play and exactly what most believe will happen. Second of all you didn’t answer my question, is Jared McCann at 8th going to be that much better to bring this franchise over the top than Nick Ritchie at 15th. Try to understand this, top 10 or not, we are not talking about missing an opportunity to draft a Crosby, Tavares or Stamkos. The difference between 7-10-15 is one or two good/bad games by kids who are 18 and under. Look how much players move in scouting charts due to the world junior tournament. We’re projecting one kid to be better than another 5 years later off as little as 8 games? It’s exactly why the order players are drafted doesn’t remain the same where they’d be ranked overall when they all hit their peak. You keep saying short term grief for long term success and acting like it’s life or death for this franchise on the mere obsession that top 10 pick will turn into a superstar franchise player and the 15th overall pick will be no more than a bust. When in reality chances our they will likely peak at close to the same level later in their careers. And honestly if that if worth enough for people to be cheering for this team to lose then go cheer for the oilers they’ve had 7 years of high draft picks and losing. There short term grief has done nothing but cost the fans 7 years of anything exciting to cheer. It’s what hockey is all about, it’s playing in the post season 4 games or 28, it’s still exciting and it’s what we wait for every season. -
PGT Canucks win 4-3! Over panthers
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Ryan kesler the beast's topic in Canucks Talk
Your right picking Jared McCann at 8th overall over picking Nick Ritchie at 15th overall will be detrimental to this franchises future. I'm sick of this tank for a higher pick talk, You act like we'll end up picking some plug. At this point were talking about a 4-7 pick difference. Its not like were talking about a drop from a top 2 pick to 30th overall. Or A franchise star to a player that will never crack an NHL line up. No matter where we finish, in the playoffs or not, were still in a great position to draft a good player. I'll take my four playoff games. -
Then the flyers on thursday
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If everything goes are way in the next week, by wednesday canucks could be back on a playoff spot. Dallas would have games in hand but we'd still be sitting in a better spot. Go Jets go.
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[GDT] |March 14 - Vancouver @ Washington - 4PM|
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Drouin's topic in Canucks Talk
To anyone that wants to lose What makes the playoffs so exciting? The fact that anyone can win. What’s the most exciting time in hockey? Game 7 overtime, playoff hockey would be boring if 1 team would run away with the cup every year. You need those close do or die games, where a lucky bounce, blocked shot, second effort, gets a team a win. If you are ok with missing out on that might I suggest a different sport. The odds of us picking top 5 are as low as us making playoffs. So please tell me, has the 16th overall picked player in the draft ever turned out to be better than the 6th overall picked. How often has the 7th overall picked player become the 7th best player to come out of the draft year? The kids are 18 years of age and all playing in different leagues, with different levels of competition and at different level of physical development. To pick the exact order what each kid is going to achieve and amount to in 4-10 years it’s not going to happen. Especially within the range of 5-20 of the world’s top 800 kids. Picking 7th does not guarantee this team more success than picking 17th . Our scouting might have a player rated 7th overall and he might fall to 17th or get picked earlier. Benn and Bergeron being both picked in the 2nd round is an example of how accurate drafting is. And if that’s the case, I’ll take cheering a team on, even if it is just for four games, over mailing it in at the end of the season and missing playoffs. -
[GDT] |March 14 - Vancouver @ Washington - 4PM|
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Drouin's topic in Canucks Talk
You know what, it doesn’t matter what place you finish in playoffs or even what the odds are against us winning, the excitement leading up to and playing the playoff games it what hockey is all about. I would take the excitement of the canucks tying the flames in game 7 with 5 seconds left and losing over missing and getting a high draft pick any day. -
[GDT] |March 14 - Vancouver @ Washington - 4PM|
ForsbergTheGreat replied to Drouin's topic in Canucks Talk
Ovi's got more goals than Hank has points, Yikes -
It starts with refs making weak calls thinking it's ok since canucks are up. Little do they know that refs also need to call a 60 minute game. No way Jensen's second penalty and Bieska's penalty is called if the game was close in the third, but because canucks are up 3-1 they give the other team a chance to get back in it. What did Torts say to the team in the third. "Don't worry guys we got this in the bag, you might as well check out and start thinking about the next game."
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What did torts say to them in the second intermission? This guy has zero idea how to control a team
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It's not lacks fault the D were watching the islanders skate right by them on the dump in. Perhaps if garrison knew how to skate he wouldn't have watched the opposing team fly by them
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I never want to see Garrison in a canucks uniform again. get back and show some effort. Instead he sits and watches the puck
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Garrison needs to GO..
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Garrison is about as dumb as a rock. On the second goal he had all the time in the world and all he had to do is shoot the puck down the ice. But what does he do, fires it straight into the boards.
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Jet lose, Blues win 2 for 2 3 more games to go
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And...the band wagon is near empty. I'll still be cheering this team in 5-1 canucks Burrows picks up a goal early and sets the pace from there, Jensen gets 2 goals and an assist.
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At this point I would gladly strip Hank the C and give it to kes
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Gillis didn't make the team give up. It's up to the players to show some effort
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If were going to lose, than we better make them earn it. Hit them every opportunity, too much skating by players waving sticks.