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  1. You seem to lack the ability to comprehend refs don't have 100% ability to decide a game. If players aren't in on it then what stops sedin's from getting 4 goals each in game 7 SCF, What stops Luongo from becoming an unbeatable wall. Just think, you obviously watched that series you saw how good luongo played in games 1,2 & 5 with out that great individual performance by him canucks likely don't get to game 7. Refs /league had no impact on how good luongo played to get it to that most exciting game 7. Without him it's a 4-1 boring series loss. Honestly please people think about it. Does the NHL favour teams, possibly but does the NHL rig games to pre determine the winner (like Wrestling) extremely unlikely. There are so many factors that, Why does CBJ owners go along with this conspiracy while they watch BOS rake in the $$$, what about the owners in Atlanta, what about previous owners in NJ that lost millions of dollars when they had to sell the team. There is 30 teams in the league, yes Boston and now the california teams are doing well but it was done through building a good team over years of missing out of the playoffs. Where was the leagues involvement when CHI missed the playoffs for 9 of 10 years. They have had success by simply being better teams. This biggest flaw to this conspiracy theory is the players determine everything, They have complete control over who wins and who loses. Sedins play good, score on our chances and we likely win. This is peoples lively hoods were talking about. they train their entire lives and give up so much in life to achieve this goal, only to let the league decide who wins and who loses. Come on now use our brains a little here. Only excuse for people to truly believe the NHL is fixed right down to pre determined game winner simply has never played the sport before.
  2. Honestly if you truly believe the NHL is fixed down to who win each series why bother watching anymore. If it were to be fixed over 1500 contracted NHL players would have to be in on it. This is also a job for each player, their life income who are fighting to earn their next contract. A good/bad playoff series changes your pay dramatically, there is simply no way it can be rigged with players in on it. Refs also can help a team have an advantage but games won come down to the players. There for this claim is ridiculous and the discussion should be over with.
  3. Are the players on it then as well? Maybe that’ll explain Luongo performance in the Boston series. No offense but none of these claims have any evidence to be back up by. We had more PP opportunities than Boston did in the series final. Boston went 5/22 and Vancouver went 2/36. So if the players weren’t in on it how did the league help out the bruins? LA wasn’t just a week 8th placed seed, they were a team coming into the playoffs on a huge hot streak and canucks were missing their top goal scorer. The SJ series in 2011, SJ didn’t lay down, Eager played dumb and the Canucks capitalized. Guess who wasn’t on the SJ roster the next year. First if you’re going to say players would be in on in then think again. Why would someone like Luongo be on in? If he plays well wins that series his name is forever etched as an alltime great. He doesn’t go through any goalie controversy and locks himself as a future HHOF. No amount of money would get him to play different. I can tell you through friends of my own playing in the NHL, even on Vancouver in 2011, that it was completely devastating to loose in 2011. The type of devastation you get when you want and tried so hard to achieve something so bad and failed to achieve. So that rules out players being involved in it. So your whole theory is completely falsified Another bigfoot it real conspiracy, all talk through word of mouth with zero to very little evidence to prove anything.
  4. The only laying down in that series was Luongo on his belly when Toews tied it up. But then he got up and robbed Sharp in OT and we won
  5. Kassian goal Since you want to compare them so bad please find me a Bertuzzi highlight real when he was 23 or younger. I can find you one, he was on the bloopers going head first into the boards on rockem sockem 7 And I have nothing against bert was an awesome player back in his day
  6. To everyone who acts like Kassian is completely useless and a waste of a roster spot. Perhaps everyone is just upset that he’s not hitting “your” expectation that “you’ve” put on him. From what I’ve watched this season he doesn’t look a bit out of place giving the role that’s he’s been put into. Has he made mistakes? Sure he has tell me a player that hasn’t. So to prove this I wanted to compare hits stats to other 4th line players around the league. I didn’t add hits into this as it is completely inaccurate as I’ve shown and mentioned in previous posts. Looking at other teams 4th lines around the league, how does he look out of place? He doesn’t, giving what role he’s been put into this is exactly where we should see him. After every game someone will post his game stats as a way to show how bad he is, but really what are you expecting with him on the 4th line (a goal every game?). Get real with your own expectations on him and maybe you’ll see him as a player with a high potential. CHI Bollig 3g 4a (+2) 9:59min, 43shots Smith 4g 6a (+2) 11:50min, 34shots Kruger 4g 9a (+3) 13:41min, 32shots BOS Paille 3g 2a (+1) 10:26min, 20shots Campbell 2g 4a (0) 11:31min, 21shots Caron 1g 0a (-4) 11:48min, 17shots SJ McCarthy 0g 0a (-4) 11:38min, 25shots Sheppard 1g 4a (-1) 10:41min, 35shots Desjardin 1g 5a (0) 11:50min, 39shots COL McLeod 2g 4a (+6) 9:05min, 21shots Cliché 0g 4a (+2) 8:59min, 18shots Bordeleau 3g 1a (+4) 6:03min, 7 shots (great S%) VAN Kassian 5g 1a (-4) 11:17min, 25shots Sestito 2g 0a (-7) 5:33min, 10shots Dalpe&Welsh 1g 1a (-2) 6:11min, 20shots (that’s combines stats) Just because he hasn’t lived up to “you’re” 20 goal 1st line expectation doesn’t mean he hasn’t been effective out there. It’s even been noticed that the games he plays more are the games he stands out more (gee figure that). People need to relax let him work on his game and play. When he starts getting more ice time and giving the opportunity, watch him hit those expectations.
  7. This hit stat is extremely inaccurate In the last ten minutes of the second i was keeping track of the hitting going on. Kassians shift around the 7 min in the 2nd he first hit landeskog on the boards then finished his check behind the net on Guenin. The his last shift in the second he at 1:04 he finished his check on Stastny. Yet still is only accredited with ONE hit in that game. It's been the same thing the last few games. Don't believe me go back and rewatch the shifts I have pointed out. If those hits aren't credited as a hit, than I don't know what you'd need to do to get credited. Just goes to show you, that you can trust every stat you see.
  8. The guy who does the stats on hitting is slacking big time. In the last ten minutes of the second i was keeping track of the hitting going on. Kassians shift around the 7 min in the 2nd he first hit landeskog on the boards then finished his check behind the net on Guenin. The his last shift in the second he at 1:04 he finished his check on Stastny. Yet still is only accredited with ONE hit so far in this game. It's been the same thing the last few games. Just goes to show you, that you can trust every stat you see.
  9. I agree with what your saying but I would just thought I would point out that sutter was the main catalyst in their changeover. After Sutter got hired the Kings went 25-13-11 in 49 games
  10. I don't expect that to last all game. Booth and santo have had great chemistry why break that up, Put Kassian on the first line already putting him on the 4th line with limited min is doing more damage to his confidence than helping it. What the worst that will come of it, him not scoring, oh well neither was Burrows Danny Hank Kassian Higgy Kess Hansen Booth Santo Weise Sestito Richy Dalpe
  11. I've posted this in another thread but then I've seen this thread existed so here it is again. People bashing kassian are expecting way to much out of him. He has an ELC and is being used as a 4th line player. What are you expecting out of him? To show up and score every night. He's being used improperly, you have no idea what its like sitting on the bench and then giving 2 shifts a period and expected to create something. Yes he was traded for Hodgson so everyone expects him to be being used as him. His not being used that way. All this kassian is invisible out there talk is ridiculous, of course you don't notice him out there he's only playing 10 min a game. If Torts was looking more from him he'd be playing top 6 minutes with PP chances and with line mates that can actually do something with the puck other than dump it in when they hit center ice. This is the role Torts wants him in and what he thinks is beneficial for him. Personally I'd think if he's not in the top 9 playing over 15 min a game he'd be better off in the AHL playing in key situations learning leadership but hey i'm also not the coach making the decisions. Over the last two prior season (excluding last shortened season) Playoff bound teams have averaged around 240 goals Line 1 - (72-80 goals) Line 2 - (50-58 goals) Line 3 - (40-45 goals) Line 4 - (20-25 goals) Defence -(32-40 goals) Fourth line players are expected to score around 8 goals a season, well Kassian has 5 already. Yes we want him to grow into a better player to become a top 6 player, well if your going to get mad at someone get mad at the coach who's using him in the 4th line role. And to the responses saying that you got to earn your ice time, come on really... has Burrows earned playing first line this year has hansen/higgins earned 2nd line. Sometimes players have to be giving a chance (not just 1 or 2 shifts) and seen what they can do with it. Kind of like Booth has been giving the last 3 games. You take Daniel and put him on the wing to Richardson and Sestito playing only 10 min a game and guess what you wouldn't get much of a different response out of his play than your seeing from Kassian.
  12. The team seem so not interested, so skating to easy and lax a dazy. Were done 4-1 in the third everything need to be going forward and towards the net. I'm sick of the twins skate in and stop at the blue line only to take their time and loose the puck, Come on get it in their zone and out work the other team.
  13. Perhaps the canucks are just getting their legs, I'm calling it canucks win 5-4 in OT.... Booth gets the hatty
  14. 5. band wagoner someone who only likes a certain thing because its "popular" Sheila is a band wagoner only likes the dodgers when they're winning and hates them when they are losing I think there are many different terms you can be defined as a bandwagoner/ fair weather fan. People tend to over use the term (as well as troll) any time someone disagrees with their own beliefs. However I do feel that the term bandwagoner does serve purpose to people that don’t stick in cheering for their team even when the team is in the rut. We lose a game and everyone gives up hope on this team saying they are done, not making playoffs, Then we win and they cheer on how great the team is and are going to win the cup. It get ridiculous getting how many praise/ hate threads there will be after a loss/win. I honestly think someone needs to make a thread for this situation. Can someone please make this thread for me, I don’t have time to update this all the time or I would, maybe jazz it up add an image or two. Official 2013/14 Bandwagon Many of this team’s fans are pretty much like a revolving door, We lose a few games and people make countless threads of how this team sucks and is going nowhere for the next 10 years. We win a few games and the same people are making threads on how are the greatest canucks team in existence. So how ever feel now is your chance to make that claim in front of all CDC. If you think the canucks are done this year and will not make playoffs, state you user name and give a small explanation why you are giving up hope on the team this year (it’ll reduce the amount of trolls). It will show that you are officially off this teams bandwagon this year. If you think this team will make playoffs and have any sort of a playoff run again state you user name and give a small explanation. You can even state changes/trades that you think could help this team out to go further. You will not be labelled a bandwagoner unless you make the claim. There is just one small hitch, something to be wary of is, Users ON the bandwagon can bail at any time, just remember once you claim you are off the bandwagon you are officially off, there is no ladder to climb back on to the wagon, You will be considered a cast away, if you are caught making thread praising the team’s success or cheering on the team in playoffs (GDT or PGT) you will be called out and will feel terrible shame, it will haunt generations of your offspring. You will not get to celebrate and share the joy with all the other users on the band wagon if the canucks make a deep playoff run. So think long and hard before you make a claim of saying canucks are not going to the post season in the spring of 2014. Users on the bandwagon Users off the bandwagon - - - -
  15. Dear alex elder, bench your self. I'm sick of how many times he can cost us a game
  16. That goal was all on elder, what on earth was he thinking. Absolutely %&#$ dumb play, up by a goal in are own zone and he goes for a bit hit.
  17. It hasn't been as bad as every one this board is claiming it is. Were going to win this game.
  18. After one period I would have to say A few defensive lapse with D pinching at the wrong times I thought kassian has been playing good out there, the whole 4th line had pressure when they were on the ice (expect the one shift kassian's stick broke) Bad bounce and non call that lead to the goal. Booth has looked good out their as well he's crashing and banging, had a few good opportunities out they. I have a feeling he might pot a couple tonight. Sedins need to drive the puck to the middle more, they are getting pushed to the boards to easy and their never going to score playing perimeter hockey. Other than that I hope someone lays out Brown and we take it to them in the second
  19. I was talking to a couple buddies from Winnipeg who are huge jets fans about this and they haven’t even heard about that rumour, so if WPG hasn’t heard anything about this you know it’s not true. They feel IF they were shopping him it would start at a proven 2C and a good prospect or top 15 draft pick. They even said it wouldn’t make sense for the other team as the asking price would be so high. Canucks obviously don’t have the assets jets would be looking for, as mentioned they don’t have any need on D Basically it would be Kelser they would be asking for and I don’t this team is better with Kane on the team and Kesler not. Possibly they think about. Burrows, Jensen/Gaunce, 1st ?? Other options Stastny + pick Henrique + Prospect + pick O’Reilly Johannson + Pick
  20. Life in Colour in calgary tomorrow. Anyone else going?
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