Junkyard Dog

Need a big hit or fight to spark something. Not a lot of urgency.

What an awful bounce on that goal.

Jake and Gaud are still developing too. Imagine if Jake upped his physicality and/or defensive game and Gaud became one of our main PKers and defensive guys all while they provide the excellent secondary scoring. Would make us less dependent on guys like Sutter, Eriksson, etc for PK duties and allow us to bring in a Lind or a Hog without needing to worry about sheltering them because they've got good line mates. Would allow us to bring in more gritty players for the bottom 6 too like a Gadjo?(who knows). I want our youngsters with the best chance to succeed and Gaud/Virtanen will have a role to play in that as they round out their games. If we re-sign Toffoli/Pearson for a bit and someone steps ups earlier than expected then our top 9 is gonna be incredible and we could eventually trade said assets(Toffoli and Pearson) when they are expiring. They'd essentially be stop gaps and good ones. Defense is a different story. I have a little worry with how old our core is but we have a pretty good stock of defenseman. Rafferty and Juolevi are good dark horses and Woo/Rathbone are good D prospects. More than likely we will see more D than forwards get chances the next couple of years IMO. Then we have Tryamkin who I am personally lowering my expectations for. Not because I think he's bad(I think he's good) but because it seems we've set a high bar for him and I want him to succeed without that sort of pressure to succeed early if you get what I am saying. Who knows who we draft in the next few years too. JB has shown he get get good players outside the top 15 and if we get another home-run like Boeser, especially on D, look out. The fact that we still have a good pool with Petey/Hughes/Boeser making the jump early bodes well. Overall I have tempered expectations because we have been so fortunate but I am still positive about what we have and am excited. It might look different than most optimism but I want to give our youngsters the best environment possible to develop here so I want us to tread just a touch carefully and am willing to be patient.

Not really if you think about it. We've done this with Subban, Shinkaruk, Dahlin, picks we've given up, etc. We Canuck fans are a special breed.

Madden's still a pretty good B prospect and I would definitely say he's a better prospect than Karlsson.

Hoping OJ can turn his ship around and become a solid top 4 D though. We're gonna need one as Edler slows down.

If it were up to me i'd castrate him. That's coming from a right-winged guy. He will probably get true justice in the showers though, I don't think other prisoners very much like rapists from the documentary's and Reddit's I have found.

I voted against us because we always seem to win when I do.

I think you've misunderstood what I have been trying to say. Not really condemning anyone. My expectations are lowered because I think that most of our current prospects will have a development path along the lines of Bo/Virtanen/Gaud. They could step in and play but they won't be making an immediate impact like Hughes/Petey/Boeser and/or might need a year of seasoning in the AHL. The only one that I could see doing that again is Pod because of his overall high skill set and complete game. And honestly I can see Lind getting games next year because he is ahead of everyone else and Pod won't be here for another year after this one. He's already in his second season in the AHL. The only problem I could see is us already having to shelter guys like Gaud/Virtanen defensively. That's where a guy like MacE has the advantage on Lind because he's gotten a lot of experience being with this team from call ups. Mac's been pretty much a 13th forward. I have stated that I see Lind getting the same sort of treatment as Mac and being the 1st call up next year, being groomed to be a regular. I have also stated on other threads that I really want Virtanen and especially Gaud to round out their games. As it stands now the only thing these two bring is some solid secondary scoring. I want that so I don't have to worry about them having to be sheltered anymore so that we can introduce more young players like Lind to the team. Green should have started to give them that sort of experience earlier(ie match up/PK duties). In regards to Jake, a top 6 spot was always open with Bo for a while and Gaud could of had some PK time as a winger. It is kind of late to try and give them that now. NHL is a tough league and one of the biggest reasons a young player can be held back for a bit is because of their defensive play unless they're really good offensively. We could possibly re-sign Toffoli and that would solidify our top 6 for a while as these young guys progress.

That would be awesome but I think Marky values security/term above all. He might ask for 6 years 4-5 would be awesome though.

Imagine if we were able to work the cap and sign everybody. Edler-Stecher/or better UFA Hughes-Myers Tryamkin-Tanev Each pairing could play 20 minutes.

Hopefully if he requests it they grant it.

Only crappy thing with signing him long-term is that goalies almost never play up to their big contracts all the time.

Wouldn't we have to wait till after the playoffs to sign him? The 2019-20 post-season would still be going on if he was eliminated.

Could also be making sure he's playoff ready. Good stretch of games then some training is not a bad idea for a guy coming off a major injury. His acceleration has been a bit of an issue from clips I have seen here. Doubt he's had enough time to get his legs back fully.

Bodes well for us if it's 85+

Yeah but a guy like Crosby or McDavid aren't gonna outwardly express cockiness because they can let their play speak for itself.

Think load management they said.

Not everybody. A lot of humble elite players out there, cup winners too. If you're on a losing team and think you're the best you'll only be laughed at by winning teams. That was my point. Like I said though I don't think he meant to come across as that.

Ultimately yeah. Players also know if they sign for a crazy amount they limit what the roster can do. AKA Mackinnon. Nevertheless JB should try to sign him to a long-term extension this off-season before the season starts. It'll likely be the cheapest we will be able to get him. Teams also do potential contracts. ie Eichel/Chabot

I don't mind swagger if we are a really good team. Makes us look like fools if we aren't. Like I said I doubt he meant to come across. 20 year old young adult.

Different age and there's a lot more required out of younger players. Pod has a lot of advantages over everyone else, having a rounded out game, good skill and a mans body. Lind has some of these advantages too but Pod is a much better player I feel if you expect every rookie to come out and perform like Petey/Hughes/Boeser then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Even Bo took a few years.

Them thinking it doesn't mean it'll come true. It likely stems from a tremendous amount of wishful thinking since their D-core is awful and them wanting a star Dman.

Like opening a Christmas present without finding a gift in it. A turkey without the stuffing. Bread without the butter.

Them boys raised right.