ashlynnbrookefan

I haven't read through the first 41 pages and I'm sure everyone has said it but regardless, Hughes is the perfect player for this organization!! An absolute home run of a pick. He takes so much pressure off Juolevi and gives this team potential game changers at each position for the first time. Finally a little Canuck luck.

Hunter wouldn't know a talented player, but you would? Haha. Your opinion couldn't mean less on the subject of hockey or anything hockey related.

Right, so knowing what you do now, if you were Jim Benning and able to re draft while adding that 6th pick you'd take Lind over Glass. If that's truly the case I don't know how much weight your opinion holds while talking about prospects

So if you were Jim Benning and somehow added the number 6 pick to go along with Petterson you would draft Lind over Glass in that spot?

Lind has alot of PP points and Glass gets a ton of his points 5on5. I just think it's too soon to say Lind is equal to Glass nevermind better. Good pick at 33 though.

Lind looks like he was a great pick at 33 but I don't think you can say he's outperformed Glass, they're not the same in terms of style so Glass almost matching Linds point production while playing better D has to make him the better current prospect. Dipietro looks like an absolute lock to make the squad and a good pick by JB and assuming Gadjovic has a roster spot is a little ambitious, he will challenge for one but is certainly not a lock. Regardless it looks like JB had a damn good draft, even though we're still way too early to really judge it

I was never a fan of the Virtanen pick at 6, that's not his fault I just had my heart set on Ehlers. His first few years post being drafted I was beyond disappointed with him, I'm sure I was comparing him to a couple other guys in his class which isn't how to judge a prospects ability or potential, but it was also what seemed to me to be his lack of caring and preparation that angered me. I feel much differently about him as a player after a small sample size this season, I don't know if I ever think he truly taps into the offensive potential that is obviously there, but if he brings the energy, love and passion he has so far this season than I see a long career for him with our favorite organization. He's taking huge strides in the right direction.

I just think the whole toughness thing is overrated. Kane isn't just physical but also skilled, I agree with that completely. If you could have him or Kucherov or another pure offensive guy that's more on the softer side generally, on the same contact, I'm always going with the more offensively dynamic player. I love our prospect cupboard now too but you can't pencil all those guys in like they'll all be NHLers, some guys aren't gonna develop like hoped and others will beat expectations. The future sure looks bright though

I agree that adding Kane to the other 2 we have in the system would bring an abundance of physical presence, but who really cares about that? Don Cherry does for sure, and some hockey fans with an old and out of date perspective of the game for sure. But in reality, who cares if your team is soft, hard or whatever term you want to label them. The game is about winning, I don't care if we are winning with a team full of literal midgets, and I mean no disrespect in using that term. And I have no issue with your post, I respect your thought process on it! I just feel like some fans grasp at straws with Jake. Like, sure he doesn't produce but at least he's not a sissy!! I don't care how tough you are, I want good hockey players. Also in no way am I saying you do this with Jake, just thought your post was the perfect place to butt in.

I don't think Lucic is afraid of anyone, certainly not anyone in the NHL. Guddy is a physical presence but he doesn't scare any tough guys in the league, as no one should.

Yeah I don't think the public scrutiny does any good for the kid, I just get why some people are upset and don't think they're totally wrong vocalizing it. It's not Jakes fault he was picked, I'm not mad at him for that, the only thing I'm upset with Jake on was his maturity level and fitness which tie together for me. If he really has broken through like many think than that's great, and I will gladly eat crow. This is an exciting time to be a Canuck fan though, regardless of where you stand on Jake, we have many intriguing prospects in the pipeline for probably the first time.

I also read that the other day too. That's a great post btw. Tkachuk was absolutely in a better position in the lineup with more opportunities but he definitely forced Calgarys hand in that decision, Jake could have done the same here. I'm not trying to argue against everything you say, I respect your posts and like that you put thought into them, I'm just finding the other side of the conversation. In the end I think we both want the same thing with all Canuck prospects.

While I wanted Nylander and Ehlers over Jake I don't make those comparisons because like you said, they're completely different players. You can compare him to a guy like Matt Tkachuk though who looked a lot better than Jake has so far. But I agree with you, he's young. This year is big for him though. If he's stagnant in his progression this year I think it kills his stock with our organization.

This post is gold. Do I fully believe in Jake? No. But I want nothing but the best for him and hope I'm wrong. Anyone that says it's stupid to call him a busy should realize it's just as stupid to assume he isn't. Calling him a bust is certainly premature, but post being drafted he's certainly closer to being a disappointment than anything else. People with blind faith in Jake are insane. Hopefully this year everything comes together. If he's a guy that takes until 23 or 24 to develop into what was hoped from him then I guarantee he reaches that potential with another organization. You don't take a guy 6th overall and wait on him for 7 years. Projects shouldn't be drafted close to that high. Let's all just see what this coming season has and we will have an even better understanding of where he's at in his developmental curve. Though I'm not your biggest fan, go Jake go, prove me and whoever else that doesn't have faith in you wrong, please.

It absolutely does. And as much as I'm not sold on him as a player I'm stoked to see him in camp this year, because the potential is obviously there for him to be a productive NHLer.

Why do they have to be trolls? Can't just be upset fans with the way the pick has gone so far? So many people in this thread call people that aren't happy or don't think he will turn out as trolls, which is ridiculous. 73 percent says all the time that Jakes young so we can't get on him and in the same post will say McCann is a bust haha. I hope Jake turns into what was hoped from many on draft day. Do I think that will happen? No. Does that make me a troll? No. I want nothing more than the Canucks to win a cup, and hopefully with Virtanen being a contributor on that squad but I wouldn't bet on it. It would be foolish with what we know and we've seen. Anyone pro Jake that gets angry and defensive at anyone who's disappointed/mad/upset at Jake is foolish. If you're anti Jake then there's no reason to get defensive about someone being pro Jake. No ones opinion on this board means anything in Virtanens reality so we will just have to wait and see who's right. Hopefully it's not me.

When you're a realist and a Canucks fan it's easy to be jaded. You don't pick who and what you love, unfortunately I love the Canucks and hockey, just because they've been inept for as long as they have doesn't mean I'm going to stop watching or pick a new team, that's not how it works. Hopefully they can win a cup at some point but with my favorite sport teams I'm used to being disappointed and absolutely not expecting it to happen haha

I never said I'd be a great scout, that's why I'm not paid very nicely to do it, like the people are that you claim hold no responsibility when it comes to drafting. For the record I'd go with Glass, would have taken Ehlers and Tkachuk too so maybe I really should get the job?

I'm saying if we draft Glass and he turns out to be a busy it absolutely is on management and scouting, they wouldn't have done a good enough job. Especially if someone taken within a few spots of him turns out to be a stud. It would absolutely amplify it as it should

Couldn't agree more. Doesn't have to be to Dallas either. A mid round first and a prospect will be plenty for me and just what this team needs moving forward

Of course not everyone has a crystal ball but a mistake like that should be put on management and scouting. The year we got the sedins the rest of those top 10 picks are pretty awful for the most part. At least one year tilted in our favor haha.

I thought Hodgson would be a stud too. But he had a ton of issues with coaches, his dad was too involved. If management did a good job of scouting and dissecting the player beforehand maybe they realize he has potential issues and avoid that player

Yeah I'll give you that he did a decent job keeping the team he was given together but that's the easiest part of the job, finding and getting the talent isn't nearly as easy. I don't think he deserves props and have no issue with the shots that are thrown his way.

Gillis didn't build that team, he was handed it.

So after you pick a player it's all a guessing game? That's absurd. Does everyone turn out like you'd hope? Absolutely not but to call it a guessing game isn't right. If players don't reach their potential for the reasons you listed then it was poor scouting and drafting. There's a reason they put so much money and effort into scouting, and it's not so they can play the guessing game, it's so they can make the best pick of their ability, part of that is projecting where that player will be when fully mature. It's certainly not a crapshoot at any stage at that level, you make educated moves with the hope your information and scouting is on point