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  1. On 7/1/2016 at 9:39 AM, Derp... said:

    Honestly this guy could help take Horvat to the next level.

    @Nuck1991 Just found this steaming hot take of mine from 2016 lol. I have to say though, if Loui has done one thing for this team, it's allowing Bo to elevate his play individually. Green has said Horvat has played better with Loui more than once. 

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  2. 16 hours ago, filthycanuck said:

    Wonder how he his in faceoffs? Beag's replacement possibly? I really like the depth we have at centre, got this guy and Linus Karlsson simmering nicely on top of the 3 we already have in the big club

    Renowned as a good faceoff guy by scouts. I haven't watched a ton of footage, but that was a common thing I heard yesterday.

  3. 1 minute ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

    Lots of contradictory scouting reports of Zlodeyev.  Some say he is physical, some say he tends away from contact, some say he is weak in battles while others contend he is exceptional in that department, another source thinks he is a top six centre playmaker, while others think he is a bottom six energy spark plug.

     

    Seems like not much consensus on what he is, I'm intrigued how he develops.  

    There's a little Nick Bonino in his game for me. Better skater than Bones in his draft year, but similar skill set as a good all round center. He's strong for his size, but not strong for a hockey player. Isn't afraid to initiate contact, but doesn't come out on top of physical battles because of strength. He uses his stick plus body contact to apply pressure and try to win the puck, and or protect it. He uses his tools to their max kinda like Troy Stecher. Competes, pressures, pushes, angles, and wins his battles with will power. 

    He's scored pro style goals this year. High tip, rebounds, quick hands off loose pucks, cross ice pass off the rush. Although he is not a + shooter in any one area, it's the maximisation of the skills he does have that give him success. A lot of scouts look for qualities that separate a player from the pack. Zlodeyev doesn't have those as much as he is a high IQ player, who competes hard. He's not a creative genius high IQ though, he is a make the right play for the given situation. Kinda like a chess player. Thinking a couple steps ahead of the play, and making the smart decision to gain an advantage with a simple play. Another player that comes to mind is Brandon Sutter. He helps you win by being effective in the details, playing a system well, and being very coachable. 


  4. I really like this pick. He sounds like the type of player the Canucks have targeted that plays hard, hasn't scored a ton, but has some skill, and they have turned out well. See Madden, Gaudette, McDonough, and Podkolzin to some extent. 

  5. 5 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

    https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancouver-canucks-2020-nhl-draft/c-319267548?fbclid=IwAR2EVhLcqaa5eNQdvCb_IL0BpbnCzlA8FxwGsddNn9zxvoWKScz1QobMw6Y

     

    Todd Harvey was formally with the Guelph Storm as an assistant coach until 2017 when he was hired on as an amateur scout.

     

    Sounds like his role was CHL/OHL based scouting, so I would not be surprised if the Canucks went more CHL based this coming draft with it under his command.

    I hope not. CHL has not been a good path for our North American prospect pipeline. (Legend) --> NHL NHL POTENTIAL BUST

    CHL:
    Horvat
    Virtanen
    McCann
    MacEwen

    ---------
    Juolevi
    Lind
    Gadjovich
    Dipietro

    Focht
    Woo

    Brisebois
    Chatfield

    ----------

    Shinkaruk
    Fox
    Keppen
    Palmu
    Candella
    Stukel
    Zhukenov
    Neal
    Cassels
    Subban
    Gaunce
    Mallet

    Brassard

    Abols

    Candella
    McKenzie

    Olson
    Pettit
    Stewart

    Williamson
    Liberati

    USHL/NCAA:
    Boeser
    Hughes

    Gaudette

    Demko
    Hutton

    Stecher

    ----------

    Lockwood
    Rathbone
    Madden
    Rafferty
    Malone
    McDonough

    -------------

    Thiessen

    Europe:

    Pettersson

    ------------
    Jasek
    Podkolzin
    Hoglander
    Plasek
    Costmar

    Manukyan
    Tryamkin

    -----------

    Utunen

    Forsling
    Cederholm

     

    We've had one undrafted player make the NHL as a regular (and that's a stretch for MacEwen at this point, but one I'm comfy with) from the CHL. Everyone else has been first rounders. 

    Compare that with USHL/NCAA where we've had 5, and could easily end up with 8 none first rounders making the NHL as regulars. 

    Petey is our only drafted European player to be an NHL regular at this point. But we should see at least 2 more, and all of them were projected first rounders...

    This team needs to stick to its guns which is NCAA/USHL
    46% of NCAA USHL picks have become NHL Regulars
    That number could rise to 64% if Rathbone, and Madden make it too.
    Only 2 of those picks were 1st rounders!!!

    CHL is about 10% (Only 1st rounders made it)
    Europe is about 9% (Only 1st rounders made it)


    The difference is incredible. 

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  6. Canucks first pick will be #82 barring any trades between now and the draft.

    Looking at pick value for 82 and 113 specifically the Canucks trading back 6-7 spots would be ideal.
    For 82 having them move back 6-7 spots would lose them 0.2 value on the 82 pick, but acquiring an additional pick in the late 4th would add 0.9 value. Net +0.7 which is equal to a 6th rounder of improvement to their total draft value. 

    Interestingly moving 113 for a pick as low as 126 plus any other pick above 162 results in a net gain of +0.8 improvement to their total draft value.

    In other words. trading back in later rounds has an increased benefit to total draft value, and the Canucks should be looking to exploit this.
    Moving back with their 4th, 5th, and 6th round picks could net them a draft value gain of around +2.0.
    That is about the same as adding a free additional 3rd round pick.

    Hopefully with not many picks this year JB will look to create quality by increasing quantity. Adding a free 3rd rounder by moving back 3 times would be a savvy move, and one that could be quite helpful with the flat cap, especially if they look to take undervalued overage prospects who may have the ability to play pro right away. 

    Article for reference.

    https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/ 

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  7. 7 hours ago, flickyoursedin said:

    In the sense that smarts are holding them back. Jake has the size, skating and shot where Stranges has the skating, stick handling and shot. I know pre draft comps can usually be all over the place but before this season started the crazy skilled Stranges was getting Marner and Kovalev comps. If he’s available in the 3rd I’d easily take him.

     

     

    I like the idea of picking London players a bit later if they show skill, but are playing further down the lineup. 

  8. On 8/10/2020 at 9:35 PM, Derp... said:

    I actually think the opposite. I think Green and Benning know that they need Olli to be a part of this core, and getting him playoff experience is going to be huge. Benn and Fanta are spare parts, but they believe in Olli, and want him to grow with this group in this experience. I say he gets a look in game 1, and if he does well, then they might just keep him in. 

     

     

    I was wrong and I don't care. Great win by the guys tonight and Fanta played well!!

  9. 13 hours ago, Dats hockey said:

    Woah thanks for putting that into actual perspective.

     

    what would it be if he didn’t have any of those game that he was sub 3 minutes

    So I did a tally of the games with over 6 mins of ice time. There were 23 including playoffs.
    All his 10 points came in games with over 6 mins of ice. 

     

    0.44 P/GP

    2.22 P/60

    1.48 S/GP

    Averaging about 15 shifts per game in those 23 contests

    Averaged 11:15 of ice time over those 23 games. 

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  10. He's going to be a good player in my opinion. His skating gets him out of trouble right now though, I've seen highlights of him chasing behind the net leaving the slot open. He just needs to simplify defensively and stick to a system where he can use his skills to win his battles, and transition from there. The tendency is to try and do it all because for a long time he probably has been able to do that. He could be a 40 point dman in the NHL. 1 more year in college probably makes the most sense. 

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