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  1. Did a quick search and was surprised to not see this as a topic (Sorry if I missed it). These UFO videos captured by the Pentagon were officially released a couple weeks ago (even though they have been around for a couple years) stating that they were flying objects of unknown origin: https://globalnews.ca/news/6873561/ufo-videos-pentagon-declassified/ Basically it could be 1 of 4 things: 1) Optical illusion as some have stated. Highly doubtful as you have expert witnesses and a government organization that would quickly just state what they are. It would also mean that the instrument data capturing these events would be incorrect as well. Seems doubtful. 2) Secret terrestrial technology from US, China, Russia or other advanced state. This is certainly possible, but it would mean that the US is so incompetent in hiding their own new tech, or China or Russia are engaging in advanced tech in US airspace. It would also mean the delta between known technology and this technology is so great that these organizations are doing the world a bit of a dis-service on public advancement. 3) This is a non-terrestrial vehicle. There is a mathematical guarantee of life in our own galaxy (Maybe own solar systems - basic forms of course) but how many of those are advanced and have tech that could allow for this type of travel. Certainly possible and I personally lean this way given the current information. 4) Giorgio (Awesome by the way) connected into his extraterrestrial network and summoned Petey to Earth to restore order within the Canucks organization. Leaning towards 3 myself, but 2 is certainly a close option. Let the discussions begin......
  2. Are there any nhl ready players in the first 2 rounds that will be playing in the upcoming season? Wright...? Anyone else?
  3. After the Canucks signed a dozen players likely heading for the farm today, I figured this would be a good time to start a thread on the upcoming season. The roster is really starting to take shape; here's an overview of the players we have so far for Abbotsford's inaugural season. New Signings (2020-21 Stats) Forwards Phillip Di Giuseppe / LW, age 27 / 6'0", 193 lbs / NHL 31 GP - 1G - 8 Pts Justin Dowling / C, 30 / 5'10", 180 lbs / NHL 27 G - 1G - 5 Pts Sheldon Dries / C, 27 / 5'9", 180 lbs / NHL 3GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 18GP - 5G - 10 Pts Nic Petan / C, 26 / 5'9", 175 lbs / NHL 7GP - 0G - 1 Pts; AHL 14GP - 7G - 15 Pts Sheldon Rempal / RW, 25 / 5'10", 165 lbs / NHL 3GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 25 - 4G - 14 Pts Chase Wouters / C, 21 / 6'0", 193 lbs / WHL 21GP - 10G - 22 Pts ------------ AHL only contract Defensemen Kyle Burroughs / RD, 26 / 6'0", 193 lbs / NHL 5GP - 0G - 1 Pts; AHL 11G - 1G - 4 Pts Brad Hunt / LD, 32 / 5'9", 177 lbs / NHL 12 GP - 1G - 1 Pts Brady Keeper / RD, 25 / 6'2", 197 lbs / NHL 1GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 11GP - 2G - 3 Pts Devante Stephens / LD, 24 / 6'3", 185 lbs / AHL 26GP - 5G - 11 Pts; ECHL 16GP - 3G - 6 Pts Returning Vincent Arseneau / LW, 29 / 6'2", 221 lbs / AHL 13GP - 4G - 4 Pts ------------ AHL only contract Justin Bailey / RW, 26 / 6'4", 214 lbs / NHL 3GP - 0G - 0 Pts Madison Bowey / RD, 26 / 6'2", 202 lbs / NHL 2GP - 0G - 1 Pts; AHL 2GP - 0G - 0 Pts John Stevens / C, 27 / 6'2", 194 lbs / AHL 24GP - 6G - 10 Pts Canucks Prospects Forwards Carson Focht / C, 21 / 6'0", 180 lbs / AHL 28GP - 4G - 12 Pts Jonah Gadjovich / LW, 22 / 6'2", 209 lbs / NHL 1GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 19GP - 15G - 18 Pts Danila Klimovich / C/RW, 18 / 6'2", 202 lbs / Belarusian Extraleague 6GP - 1G - 1 Pts; Belarus Vysshaya 37GP - 28G - 52 Pts William Lockwood / RW, 23 / 5'11", 185 lbs / NHL 2GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 24GP - 4G - 11 Pts Karel Plasek / RW, 21 / 6'0", 181 lbs / Czech Extraliga 44GP - 6G - 10 Pts; Chance Liga 2GP - 3G - 3 Pts Defensemen Guillaume Brisebois / LD, 24 / 6'3", 189 lbs / NHL 1GP - 0G - 0 Pts; AHL 14GP - 1G - 3 Pts ------------ Qualified as a RFA but need to be signed Jett Woo / RD, 21 / 6'0", 205 lbs / AHL 28GP - 3G - 5 Pts Goaltenders Michael DiPietro / G, 22 / 6'0", 200 lbs / AHL 4GP - 2.52 GAA - 0.916 SV% Arturs Silovs / G, 20 / 6'4", 203 lbs / AHL 1GP - 2.07 GAA - 0.920 SV% Veterans (more than 320 pro games): D Kyle Burroughs, D Brad Hunt, F Justin Bailey, F Phillip Di Giuseppe, F Justin Dowling. Veteran exempt (between 261-320 pro games): F Nic Petan, D Madison Bowey. Only 5 veterans and 1 veteran exempt player are allowed to dress per game, so the Abby Canucks can dress 4 of the 5 vets, and give the fifth vet spot to Petan/ Bowey, or sit one of Petan/ Bowey. However, with injuries and call-ups, it'll likely be a non-issue. Dowling, Keeper and Hunt have one-way contracts, while everyone else are either on two-way or ELCs, so those three are likely to be among the first call-ups. The above makes it a total of 14 forwards, 7 defensemen and 2 goalies, and 21 of the 23 players are on NHL contracts. At this point, the Canucks are probably about done signing NHL contracts, but will still need a few AHL-only deals for depth players. Silovs was only able to get in one game last year, and Ryan Johnson said he wanted DiPietro to start 50+ games this year, so they might send Silovs to ECHL (or on loan to another AHL team) to get some games, and sign an AHL goalie to back up DP. My projected 23-man Canucks roster: Forwards: Boeser, Dickinson, Garland, Highmore, Hoglander, Horvat, MacEwen, Miller, Motte, Podkolzin, Pearson, Pettersson, Sutter Defensemen: OEL, Hamonic, Hughes, Juolevi, Myers, Poolman, Rathbone, Schenn Goaltenders: Demko, Halak For the Abby Canucks, I'd like to see a lineup like this: Gadjovich - Petan - Bailey Di Giuseppe - Dowling - Lockwood Dries - Focht - *Klimovich/ Rempal Wouters - Stevens - Plasek Arseneau *Klimovich may go to the Q. Hunt - Bowey Brisebois - Keeper Stephens - Woo Burroughs DiPietro / Silovs or AHL backup Lots of new faces here -- only 4 vets are returning (including Bowey, who didn't play in Utica), and 6 prospects are returning (including DiPietro). There'll be up to three rookies (Klimovich, Plasek, Silovs), but 13 of the skaters played in at least one NHL game last year. Due to the taxi squad situation, many of these guys didn't get a lot of games last season, but once everyone gels and shake off the rust, this should be a solid group. Discuss away!
  4. It’s the season, just curious.. sometimes a great way to visit and argue about hockey over a good Bean.. Perhaps a better way to share travels, and maintenance tips. Dont be too shy to post a pic of your kicks too! Kind Regards. 06 FLHXI (street glide) (The hard tail is in storage, a semi-retirement project)
  5. Hi everyone, I have been an avid viewer of these boards for over 15 years. I have never posted or even commented before but thought I would take a stab at sharing an idea that I have been thinking on for quite some time. I have always loved hockey, but as I have aged, I have gained more and more interest in the business side of the sport. Please excuse the length of this post but that is what you get after 15 years of silence. Who thinks the salary cap’s main purpose is to create a competitive league where all teams have an equal playing field? I do not. Who loves all the salary cap acrobatics teams must perform to fit within the salary cap confines throughout the season? I do not. Who thinks anyone other than many NHL owners and Gary Bettman, love the salary cap? I do not. The owners gave up a whole season for the salary cap and it seems it is here to stay. The main purpose of the cap is to ensure players will not earn more than 50% of all hockey related revenue. The CBA accomplishes this root goal very well. There are, however, a ton of rules within the CBA that supposedly address the desires to create balance and parity, such as: cap ceiling, cap floor, tagging rules, etc., but the CBA, as written, doesn’t seem to accomplish this as well. The consistently competitive teams, the teams with deeper pockets and teams with aggressive/crazy owners will almost always perform cap acrobatics to manipulate the system in their favor. These teams, while technically under the cap ceiling, have payrolls far greater than the cap ceiling. This is how Tampa wins the cup with 18 million in salary over the cap. These types of teams are not a true reflection of their cap hit and there are several examples each year. On the flip side, the budget/small market teams, the cheap owner teams, the forever inept teams will almost always perform cap acrobatics to manipulate the system in their favor. These teams, while technically over the cap floor, have payroll to players that is far lowerr. This is how a team like Arizona takes on players that are on LTIR but insured, or players like a Loui Player Name with a 6 million cap hit but actual salary much lower. These types of teams are not a true reflection of their cap hit and there are several examples each year. There is also, as I understand it, an underutilized advantage within the current salary cap structure, where teams can bank cap space. If, for example, a team had $5MM in space throughout the season they could take on a significantly higher amount in salaried players nearer to the deadline. This rarely happens as most teams ride the upper limit all year and most GM’s seem to be way too conservative to really go for it some years but theoretically it could happen. I bring these things up to highlight that league is quite content to let teams spend amounts outside of the cap ceiling and floor ranges. With what Tampa Bay and Las Vegas have done in recent years and what Arizona seems to have always done, there seems to be no limit to what the league would find acceptable, its all just semantics. What are they trying to accomplish if they let all this slide? It highlights that the NHL is just shuffling the money around within the cap system, so the rich teams pay more, and the poorer team do not… And I am fine with it. Who wants an NHL where if a team wanted to make a trade to improve their team, now or down the road, the GM wasn’t as severely handcuffed by salary cap constraints? I do. Who wants an NHL where the trade deadline was possibly way more exciting? I do. Who want an NHL where we hear about the salary cap way less often throughout the season? I do. We currently live in an NHL where there is no salary cap in the playoffs. Why then, can’t we just do this earlier? Why not eliminate the salary cap before the season even starts? Wait, didn’t I just say the salary cap was here to stay? Yes, I did, and it still would be. It is all just semantics at this point. The league will still get their split. I am just moving the goal posts of acceptability but not quite tearing them down. The rest of the post is just ideas around how to accomplish this. Whatever world works to get to where the NHL doesn’t have a cap for the season and playoffs is my goal. Remember owners get 50% and players get 50%, none of these changes are intended to result in more cost to the league overall or a reduction to any player salaries. If any scenario caused more money to be paid or calculated, it would be offset by the already established escrow system and the salary cap ceiling calculations each year. Ultimately, GM’s, players & agents will learn how best to compete within any system. If any of the rules look like they can be abused and a team takes advantage of it in a way that I feel goes against the spirit of my initial intent, then I would anticipate the NHL to close the loophole while arbitrarily punishing some of those teams’ years after the fact. 1. When the NHL sets the salary cap each year (floor and ceiling), they will also provide a projection salary cap ceiling for the subsequent season. This projection will be used as the baseline for the tagging rule I mention below. We will call it the tagging cap. 2. The day before the first day of the NHL season, teams must submit their 23-man opening day roster that falls within the salary cap floor and ceiling range. We will call this the team locked in cap. This 23-man roster calculation will follow whatever calculations go into doing this today. 3. The difference between the team locked in cap and the salary ceiling will be called the team salary bank 4. The team salary bank can be used to sign players, after the season starts, to a contract that is greater than the league minimum. It can also be used to apply any bonuses earned during the season. 5. Players signing after the season begins, cannot have bonuses included in their contract, within the first season, unless there is enough money in the team salary bank to cover the totality of the possible bonuses. 6. Burying a salary currently allows for league minimum salary + $375,000.00 in cap relief. I propose reducing this to league minimum salary cap relief moving forward. In my new world burying a contract has less concern anyway. The league minimum contracts can be signed throughout the season without concern for the cap as they effectively are in the current world. 7. Keep the current rule that no team can be below the cap floor during the season. 8. Players signed after the season starts cannot be traded within the same season. 9. All players that are on LTIR cannot be traded. 10. Teams with players on LTIR, that are expected to miss the entire season, may choose to have that salary count within their team locked in cap or not. This helps teams that might have tighter budgets and cannot spend as much as others, but it loses the stigma of manipulating the system by trading for injured players to just reach the floor. A player like Michael Ferland is a good example here. His contract still has impact to the overall salary cap calculations for the league but to the Canucks they likely would not include him in their team locked in cap where a team like Arizona would. 11. If a player starts the season on LTIR but is not expected to miss the entire season, their cap hit will be prorated based on the number of games they are expected to play. They cannot be taken off LTIR until those games are met. Doctors already make recommendations on player returns and there is LTIR being a minimum of 10 games or 28 days so there is precedent here. If a team is worried that a player may return earlier, they can just set the LTIR at a lower amount and effectively increase their team locked in cap number before the season starts. All those rules, and I am sure some more I haven’t considered, to get to the main change 12. Teams may trade for players throughout the season and until the trade deadline without consideration to the cap limit during the year with one caveat. They still need to abide by a tagging rule, which restrict the team from having commitments to players that causes them to exceed the tagging cap. Similar to how they do it today. So that is it, I am wondering what people think about the basis of this idea? Am I crazy, should I leave for another 15 years or should I be the new commissioner of the NHL?
  6. Is there anybody else out there who is fed up with the likes of Garry Galley, Craig Simpson and Cassie Campbell-Pascall? It used to be that the colour person spoke during stoppages in play and offered brief comments that supported the play-by-play. In recent years, though, the trend is for the colour people to offer instant analysis of plays we have just witnessed with our own eyes. Simpson talks for easily a full minute every time Toronto scores, endlessly dissecting a play that took maybe four seconds to develop. He also is a walking encyclopedia of everything every Leafs says, does or thinks and he shares them with his captive audience, most of whom exercise their mute button every time he opens his mouth to glory in his beloved Leafs. Galley is the king of woulda, shoulda, coulda as he critiques every play that results in a chance or a goal. He also projects what he thinks the players are thinking, as if he had a direct line into their brains. "Matthews is thinking here that Marner is open, but he knew he was being checked so he slid it to the open man." How does Galley know what Matthews is thinking, if, indeed, Matthews is even thinking at all. Most of all he loves the sound of his own voice and I'd be willing to bet his commentary takes up far more time than the actual play-by-play. Campell-Pascall, who lives in Calgary and who is the wife of Calgary's AGM, sees the world from only a Calgary perspective. No matter what happens on the ice we are subjected to an interpretation from a Calgary viewpoint. If Horvat scores, then the talk is about how Markstrom made a valiant effort to stave off the lucky goal. If a Flame elbows MccDavid in the head, well, you have to play him tough. If Johnny Gaudreau didn't actually invent hockey, he was surely in on it. I wonder what she'll say when Markstrom is injured late in the season because of, you know, overwork? Now, I have no problem with these folks doing their regional broadcast to disciples of the home team, but they all need to understand that their role on a national broadcast is to err on the side of neutrality. I would also be critical of John Garrett, who is an unapologetic homer, but he rarely gets a national broadcast. He is perfectly suited to covering Canucks games for Canucks fans. I guess I am becoming more like my dad all the time; for years he simply muted the whole game because he couldn't stand the mindless chatter that hockey broadcasts have become. Last year I wrote to Sportsnet, telling them pretty much everything I have said here. I got a nice "Thanks for sharing" type of response, so I am sharing their contact email here: feedback@sportsnet.rogers.com Maybe more of us should make it known that regional colour commentators (read: homers) are fine for regional broadcasts, but that national broadcasts require a more equitable approach. Rant over.
  7. I frequently hear commentators saying how important faceoffs are. I also read in the forums here how important they are. It makes sense, after all, if you start with the puck it gives you a huge advantage right? I'm not so sure, lets look at the 4 best teams in the league: COL: Their top face off man is Nazim Kadri at number 25, with a percentage below 50%. CAR: Their top guy is Jordan Staal at number 14 FLA: Barkov is their top guy at number 15. TB: They are consistently the best team over the last 3 years, but they don't even have anybody in the top 25. One might conclude from this that winning the faceoff is overrated, and has no ultimate bearing on the outcome of the game. Views?
  8. Hey everyone, I'm working on an assignment for my sports marketing class and this is one of the questions. Wondering if some of you would like to chime in on this topic?
  9. https://www.9news.com.au/national/desmond-tutu-dead-south-africa-archbishop-dead-at-90/d9046102-ce09-4241-8c5b-4de03fec7b7a
  10. So I was watching some Peter Forsberg highlights in YT not too long ago after seeing Petey do it and some Sens/Flyers highlights, and got to thinking. Who's waiting to see the current Forsberg (Filip) do the Forsberg on the other current Forsberg (Anton)? This will be some inception $tuff.
  11. Thought it might be interesting, The “Fighters” of the league are becoming few, unless they play hockey too. I didn’t mean to start this thread as a “Fight Card” for fights in the NHL, but catalog “the changing of the guard” so to speak. Witnessed it last night when the massive well coordinated D man Kurti Macdermid, went against the antagonistic Ryan Reaves. I think Reaves had his uh oh moment, kind of hides it with a smile at the end .
  12. With this now confirmed by the NHL, how do we spend our newfound 1 million in cap space? https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-salary-cap-2022-23-season-gary-bettman-1.1733078 I think we should spend it on pregame Starbucks, to make sure everyone's awake you there!
  13. The title pretty much says it all! I just want to hear everyones stupid/funny cheesy jokes! Doesn't need to be canucks related but if you feel like it, go right ahead! Some funny jokes!
  14. Currently Chychrun is leading at -12, but Jones is closing in as he’s at -11. Maybe Makar (-10) catches fire and wins?
  15. I've been vocal about the difference in take home pay for several years now between teams with no state tax and those that have state tax, plus jock tax and of course the Canadian teams. To me it's a bit of a joke really, players on Dallas, Vegas, Tampa Bay, Panthers and now Seattle hold a distinct advantage over other teams. As a case study - Gavingroup offers NHL players a quick and easy way to determine their take home pay compared to any other team - and has the tax rates visibly available and they adjust them every year. Vancouver, TO, MTL, and OTT are all at the highest bracket. 53%. The aforementioned teams are all at 36.29%. What does that mean? Well look at this: 5,000,000 deals $817,500 variance. 6,000,000 deals $982,200 variance. 7,000,000 deals $1,148,000 8,000,000 deals $1,312,000 9,000,000 deals $1,477,800 10 deals $1,643,000 81.5 - 13,439,350 That's a significant advantage. Sure for top echelon stars their could be better places to earn extra income with endorsements. So that's a factor. And these are only the blue chip guys that are play drivers too. But the point is, that's a lot of extra players teams can sign and build with and they have and are doing that. TB roster in particular. They kept Stamkos - who was offered a lot more in TO and SJ. That extra year however made up for it as did the extra couple million in tax savings each year. Should the NHL and NHLPA work on making this more balanced in the next CBA? Or are things fine the way they are? Have to add when the Sedins peaked we actually were in the bottom third of least taxed teams, same with Alberta. Jock and different state tax does make quite the bracket difference. Alberta teams are taxed a little more but are still hanging in ok.
  16. I joined this forum last year. Since then, I have visited nearly every day. I would like to thank all of the members for the thousands of posts I have enjoyed reading. I have found the comments, opinions, quotes, gifs, etc., to be informative, educational, and often funny. Thanks again.
  17. Out of curiosity where do you all think the next expansion city will be. Can choose more than 1 option.
  18. So I have argued for a while know why faceoffs are not very important to the outcome of a game. I will show why this is true and how the aquisition of a poor faceoff performer like Dickinson is not significant in any considerable amount to our success as a club. in 2012 seingtheice presents some data . https://seeingtheice.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/the-importance-of-faceoffs/ 1. A study shows that there is about 60 faceoffs per game 2. one faceoff is equal to about 5 seconds of possession time Lets do the math. a team that wins 55% of the faceoffs would win 33/60 or about 30 seconds. An average team will take roughly 30 shots and control the puck for 1/2 of the game. so 30 minutes or 1800 seconds + 15 = 30/1815= or about 0.8% more possesion time. 15 seconds *101.08% = 1/4 a shot * 82 games = 20.7 shots the average shot has 8.5% chance of going in * 20.7 shots = 1.75 goals over the course of a full year when these extra 1.75 goals happen might not even be significant to the result of the game. end result =near zero significance Sports illustrated came out with an article in 2015 regarding faceoff importance, there view was that there was no long term gains from being a good faceoff team https://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/03/illustrated-review-importance-nhl-faceoff Here is a major argument they present. Comparing two seasons they found that a team that wins 60% of the faceoffs wins 51.6% of those games. 82 games * 0.516 = they will win on average 0.3 more games due to faceoffs or about a little less than 1 point in the standings. So when we analyze Dickinsons face off game he took about 300 faceoffs last year winning 46.23% or 22 faceoffs lost 22 faceoffs * 5 seconds of possession = 110 seconds or about 2 shots over the year. this equates to about 0.17 goals against per the total year. Big math time= 300/5100 = 5.9% which is how many faceoffs dickinson took on the dallas team. even if he took 50% of the faceoffs and the other centers won 50% it would only result in the team losing 5100*.484 losing 164 faceoffs over the year 164*5 seconds= 820 seconds or 14 minutes or 14shots or 1 goal against over the entire year so don't worry be happy. further noted it has been shown that Faceoffs are not important to NHL hockey, but for amateur hockey the small bonus gained from possesion is magnified. So if you find that these results are misleading they mean very little towards amateur hockey where there is significant more scoring.
  19. The NHL has reported that currently 11 US based teams have fans in the stands at between 10% and 30% capacity. It is expected that NYI and Buff will add fans shortly bringing the total to 13, over 50% of US based teams will have some fans in the stands at that point. Unfortunately none in Canada and no plans at this point apparently. Teams allowing fans have mask requirements and negative test requirements but it doesn't look like proof of vaccine is a thing yet at this point. I find it encouraging that this has already started. I expect they are being careful but it's a good start. Some teams will be glad to get a few fans even those that regularly don't draw very well in the sunbelt.
  20. This is really perplexing? Disturbing! Why are Vegas & Anaheim players not considered close contacts... https://www.nhl.com/news/vegas-golden-knights-anaheim-ducks-game-remains-scheduled/c-321283684 Thomas Nosek was playing in Tuesdays Vegas / Anaheim game. But was pulled from the ice in the middle of the game after playing 9:05 minutes. This report says it was discovered during the game he had tested positive pre-game. The rest of the game continued? Their next game against Anaheim is also scheduled to go ahead?
  21. The 2021 regular season is just a few weeks away and I thought it would be fun to make some bold predictions. Feel free to make yours based on the bolded topics below: Best Team Buffalo Sabres Worst Team Chicago Blackhawks Hart Sebastian Aho Norris Shea Theodore Vezina Sergei Bobrovsky Calder Dylan Cozens
  22. Looking at our 43 man roster got me to wondering .... if George R R Martin needs some more names for his Game of Throne characters he'd have a treasure trove from our players. But in which House would he put them? Here's what I see ........... Sutter is obvious - Brandon is a Stark. Braden and Brogan sound Starkish as well Our 3 Tyler's (Motte, Myers and Graovac) are obviously Lannisters, joining Titus, Tywin and Tyrion Hawryluk and Jasek are Targaryans (there is a Jace and a Luke in "Fire and Blood") Petey to me is from Pentos, or Lys or Myr Bo has to be from Bear Isle - Bo Mormont sounds so right Ollie, ofc, is in the Nights Watch I see Nils as a Greyjoy, Sven as well Quinn is a Martel from Dorne, maybe Roussel too Brock and Jake's (2) are Tyrells Tanner and Kole are Baratheon Jordie is so obviously a Wildling from north of the wall, maybe Jett and Thatcher too Adam, Jay, Jack and Will sound like Hightowers Nate and Josh I think are Tarlys Jonah is a Velaryan Zack Bolton has a ring to it Who have I missed? Oh, Loui ...He's a Frey How do you see them?
  23. If this team made the playoffs would they win the cup. T. Domi - T. Domi - T. Domi T. Domi - T. Domi - T. Domi T. Domi - T. Domi - T. Domi T. Domi - T. Domi - T. Domi Scott Stevens - Scott Stevens Scott Stevens - Scott Stevens Scott Stevens - Scott Stevens P. Roy I think no team would beat this team in a 7 game series.
  24. December 1: Canucks trade tiers - Pettersson and Hughes most valuable...but untouchable
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