*PrimeTime* Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 i created a fantasy football league on yahoo, league name is 2137, draft is today at noon, all are free to join, there are 7 spots left whatever spots are left usually fill up pretty quick around draft time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorForPrimeMinister Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 thats no where near as potent as nnamdi, asante and rogers cromartie eagles must be planning on playing a lot of nickel next year haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Plaxico Burress has agreed to terms with the New York Jets on a one-year, $3.017 million deal (reports indicate that the extra $17,000 in the total was a small vanity point, as Burress' jersey number was (and is) #17). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Seahawks will be releasing Tatupu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upshall18 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Packers keep both Jones and Kuhn Happy to see Kuhn back but I hear he's paid as a top 3 FB Not sure what Jones got but I hope we got him cheap since the market wasn't really there for him it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanJets Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 too bad none of them can play corner in a nickel scheme... Revis and Asomugha are 2 of the best corners in the league but both can be beat, Reggie Wayne lit up Revis pretty badly in the past so going up against a good route runner like Miles Austin should be a challenge. Asomugha's at that age where DB's tend to lose a step,he's had ankle problems and looks to be slowing down. Glad somebody's not overlooking the other important aspects, drafting danny watkins was dumb. He's already 27 they could have easily gone with a younger tackle in Carimi or Sharrod and their LB's are pretty atrocious and can't stop the run. The signing of Cullen Jenkins pissed me off, I knew he was leaving but i was praying anywhere other than Philly or Chicago. If he can stay healthy he can put on some good pressure but he's brutal against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityTitan Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I dont think the Eagles will worry about re-signing Vick until after this year. There is no reason to, Vick seems to want to be there, I dont think he plans on rushing them. Although I think your right about worrying about injuries with older Dline men but I think with Kris Jenkins its kind of an extreme example...he had back to back season where he tore his ACL, and I believe it was on the same knee he tore up in 03 or 04. He missed quite a few games because of injuries well before he was 30. Cullens contract is pretty front loaded meaning they only really need him to be effective for 2-3 years before they can cut him and not face cap penalty. The Eagles paid big bucks for a position coach in Jim Washburn, it only makes sense they pay to get some guys he can work with on the line, and if he coaches anything like he did in Tennessee then the eagles will need 8 or 9 D-line man to rotate in and out..I think it was an ok move. Heard rumors that they would like to move Asante Samuel...that frees up about 5 million to give to Jackson if they are able to do so. It doesn't really matter the new rules make it basically impossible for players to hold out. Jackson will be in camp soon, and they will find a way to get him his money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorForPrimeMinister Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I would love to see stats or footage from the game where Reggie Wayne lit up Darrelle Revis. 2009 Regular season vs Jets : 3 Receptions for 33 yards. 2009 AFC Championship Game vs Jets: 3 Receptions for 55 yards. 2010 AFC Wild-Card Game vs Jets: 1 reception 1 yard. I'm not trying to be a douche, or make you look bad. But what you said is false. When healthy Darrelle Revis is the best cornerback in the NFL. On another note I wouldn't be too concerned about Jenkins. He's had some injuries I believe and is 30 years in age? Generally defensive lineman at that age begin to decline, see his brother Kris Jenkins. They've committed a fair amount of change to him, and when they're in a position where they need to resign to key players (Vick and Jackson). I don't know if that was the best move. Vick will easily command over 12 million dollars. Jackson will want number 1 WR money which will be in the 8-10 million dollar range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PrimeTime* Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 too bad none of them can play corner in a nickel scheme... Revis and Asomugha are 2 of the best corners in the league but both can be beat, Reggie Wayne lit up Revis pretty badly in the past so going up against a good route runner like Miles Austin should be a challenge. Asomugha's at that age where DB's tend to lose a step,he's had ankle problems and looks to be slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorForPrimeMinister Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 haha so 2 nnamdi and asante are probably 2 of the top 5 corners in the league, and u put an extra db on the field, maybe cromartie(pretty sure he has the speed and athleticism to keep up to any tight end), and all of a sudden they cant play and whio cares about revis anyway, we r talking about the eagles, he plays for the jets, maybe u mean asante samuel, and yes he can be beat, every corner can, revis proved that last year after he came back, asante takes risks, but he makes plays, big plays i guess nnamdi is gonna lose a step thats y he was the most sought after free agent this year right?? u would make a pretty bad gm, every team in the league would want him if they could get him i didnt c chuck slow down after 30, and as u put it, and i would agree he is the best corner in the league, and one of my fav players, that being said they played him at safety last year a bit if im not mistaken, and thats what a lot of corners are doing now as they get a little long in the nfl tooth to extend there careers every player loses a step, essentially, as they get older, it doesnt mean they r not affective anymore, a high calibur player like nnamdi isnt all of a sudden going to get lit up, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PrimeTime* Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Playing Nickel Corner in a defense is a hell of a lot different than just playing as a cover corner. And no way is Asante a top 5 CB in the NFL (in no particular order Woodson,Tramon Williams,Revis,Asomugha,DRC,A.Cromartie, Jonathan Joseph, Champ Bailey) all ahead of Asante. I realize Asante is a high risk high reward player, but when you're playing at corner that's not a guy I consider one of the best at the position.. In anywhere in my post did I say I wouldn't want nnamdi? I even said he's 1 of the 2 best CB's in the league. A GM is paid to make the best decisions for his team and bring in players he thinks have a chance at making a big impact, im a 19 year old kid who enjoys watching football.. If I was a gm I would put team and player bias' aside and do what's right. and for the record, if I were Ted Thompson I wouldn't have tried to sign Asomugha.. I think our secondary as a whole is the best if not one of the TOP secondaries in the league and I wouldn't have wanted to tie up an extra close to 15m in salary. With Chuck, they did talk about playing him at safety and did a little bit in practice and have talked about doing it next year with the emergence of sam shields but I doubt it will happen with Nick Collins playing at a pro-bowl caliber at FS and Morgan Burnett playing very solid at SS until he got heard and then having Peprah come in and play lights out I would be hard pressed to see it happen. Also, Woodson isn't that strong in zone coverage, he's way more comfortable and effective in man to man I know every player loses a step as they get older, it's just a generic fact I was just stating my opinion... and for the record, I like the debate/discussion going on in the thread please keep it up, theres not too many people out here that you can have a decent football conversation with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorForPrimeMinister Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 (bolded)was thinking the exact same thing i love your packer bias though, dude cmon, tramon williams is great but he isnt in the top 3, a.cromartie gets beat way too often to be in the top 5 imo, i like samuel high up cuz he makes big plays and has in the playoffs, that boost him up there for me speaking of big plays, not sure if u have heard brian billick and jim moras "toxic differential" theory, the combo of big plays( i believe plays over 20 yards, maybe its higher than that) and turnovers, the number sare staggering for teams success that make big plays on offence and force turnovers, while i dont subscribe to the theory as doctrine, the numbers cant be denied, and is another reason i like asante, he combines the turnover aspect and the big play aspect( on d) fair enough on the coverage aspect, he isnt a "shutdown" corner, but he plays good coverage and is a ball hawk packers secondary is very good, i would have given philly the egde, but losing quentin mikell was big at safety its interesting how u said nnamdi is at "that age" were corners slow down, but almost all the corners in ur list are about "that age" or older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanJets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 I am a Jets fan. You have a great point about Nickel CB vs Press Coverage. There's a big knock on Nnamdi, he's only ever played on one side of the field. Tramon Williams had an amazing year last year, but he is not top 5 in the leauge. To address your point about Woodson winning DPOY, I think it's obvious why. He had flashy stats (Forced Fumbles, Interceptions etc.), where as Revis did not. But the fact of the matter is, Darrelle Revis (in 2009) had the best season a cornerback has ever had in the history of the game. In comparison to Deion Sanders best season, it wasn't even close. Revis shut down every top Wideout in the NFL that year. The reason he didn't win the award was cause he lacked flashy stats. Top 5 CB I'd rank them in order, based on their previous season. Solely based on their success of preventing passess from being caught. Not overall defensive play. 1. Darrelle Revis 2. Nnamdi Asomugha 3. Asante Samuel (turnover machine) 4.Atoine Winfield 5.Antonio Cromartie (Had his best defensive season ever last year) I still believe the Packers with Aaron Rodgers at QB are the team to beat. I honestly think he'll come out of this season as the best Quarterback in the NFL. Asante plays a zone-style CB, which is why he's so successful. But he has the ability to play man and did so under Bill Bellichick. I wouldn't overlook him. Right now that is a deadly trio, but you have to be able to stop the run. Which I don't believe the Eagles can do right now. Vick is the essential key to their success, he hasn't been able to win the big game yet. And it is unknown if he will be able too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PrimeTime* Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 crapty 2nd best receiver of all time/modern era imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm glad Asomugha was able to make his decision without a 60 minute nationally covered segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PrimeTime* Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm glad Asomugha was able to make his decision without a 60 minute nationally covered segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityTitan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I am a Jets fan. You have a great point about Nickel CB vs Press Coverage. There's a big knock on Nnamdi, he's only ever played on one side of the field. Tramon Williams had an amazing year last year, but he is not top 5 in the leauge. To address your point about Woodson winning DPOY, I think it's obvious why. He had flashy stats (Forced Fumbles, Interceptions etc.), where as Revis did not. But the fact of the matter is, Darrelle Revis (in 2009) had the best season a cornerback has ever had in the history of the game. In comparison to Deion Sanders best season, it wasn't even close. Revis shut down every top Wideout in the NFL that year. The reason he didn't win the award was cause he lacked flashy stats. Top 5 CB I'd rank them in order, based on their previous season. Solely based on their success of preventing passess from being caught. Not overall defensive play. 1. Darrelle Revis 2. Nnamdi Asomugha 3. Asante Samuel (turnover machine) 4.Atoine Winfield 5.Antonio Cromartie (Had his best defensive season ever last year) I still believe the Packers with Aaron Rodgers at QB are the team to beat. I honestly think he'll come out of this season as the best Quarterback in the NFL. Asante plays a zone-style CB, which is why he's so successful. But he has the ability to play man and did so under Bill Bellichick. I wouldn't overlook him. Right now that is a deadly trio, but you have to be able to stop the run. Which I don't believe the Eagles can do right now. Vick is the essential key to their success, he hasn't been able to win the big game yet. And it is unknown if he will be able too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanJets Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nice post. I agree with almost everything, except cross of Cromartie and gimme some Champ Bailey. I would actually put Champ at #4 and Winfield at #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorForPrimeMinister Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I am a Jets fan. You have a great point about Nickel CB vs Press Coverage. There's a big knock on Nnamdi, he's only ever played on one side of the field. Tramon Williams had an amazing year last year, but he is not top 5 in the leauge. To address your point about Woodson winning DPOY, I think it's obvious why. He had flashy stats (Forced Fumbles, Interceptions etc.), where as Revis did not. But the fact of the matter is, Darrelle Revis (in 2009) had the best season a cornerback has ever had in the history of the game. In comparison to Deion Sanders best season, it wasn't even close. Revis shut down every top Wideout in the NFL that year. The reason he didn't win the award was cause he lacked flashy stats. Top 5 CB I'd rank them in order, based on their previous season. Solely based on their success of preventing passess from being caught. Not overall defensive play. 1. Darrelle Revis 2. Nnamdi Asomugha 3. Asante Samuel (turnover machine) 4.Atoine Winfield 5.Antonio Cromartie (Had his best defensive season ever last year) I still believe the Packers with Aaron Rodgers at QB are the team to beat. I honestly think he'll come out of this season as the best Quarterback in the NFL. Asante plays a zone-style CB, which is why he's so successful. But he has the ability to play man and did so under Bill Bellichick. I wouldn't overlook him. Right now that is a deadly trio, but you have to be able to stop the run. Which I don't believe the Eagles can do right now. Vick is the essential key to their success, he hasn't been able to win the big game yet. And it is unknown if he will be able too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanJets Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 I think Cromartie's gonna have a huge year. He wants to prove he's a legitimate number 1 CB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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