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Sure, you're the all knowing all encompassing genius of UFC because you think you're the only guy who knows Belfort. The guy is SO overhyped since he beat Silva in the UFC that it's laughable.

He's a good fighter but by no means great.

Did i say I was the only one that knew Belfort? No. I said nobody has talked about him, hes top 10 middleweights. He just savagely beat the former #2 ranked middleweight in the world. Overhyped? Fedor is overhyped if he doesn't accept the UFC offer.

Belfort vs Franklin at 205 will be good.

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Did i say I was the only one that knew Belfort? No. I said nobody has talked about him, hes top 10 middleweights. He just savagely beat the former #2 ranked middleweight in the world. Overhyped? Fedor is overhyped if he doesn't accept the UFC offer.

Belfort vs Franklin at 205 will be good.

So because Fedor doesn't give a crap about the UFC that now makes him overhyped. LOL. I think your main man Dana is proving he isn't as hyped as he should be, seeing as he just offered him the largest contract ever. You don't offer guys contracts like that because they are crappy or haven't proved they are the greatest fighter on the planet. Kind of hard to be overhyped when you are the Baddest man on the planet.

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Did i say I was the only one that knew Belfort? No. I said nobody has talked about him, hes top 10 middleweights. He just savagely beat the former #2 ranked middleweight in the world. Overhyped? Fedor is overhyped if he doesn't accept the UFC offer.

Belfort vs Franklin at 205 will be good.

Nope, you guys dont even know who he is.

Actually, yes you did.

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So because Fedor doesn't give a crap about the UFC that now makes him overhyped. LOL. I think your main man Dana is proving he isn't as hyped as he should be, seeing as he just offered him the largest contract ever. You don't offer guys contracts like that because they are crappy or haven't proved they are the greatest fighter on the planet. Kind of hard to be overhyped when you are the Baddest man on the planet.

An offer of 30 mil does not make Fedor the greatest.

The UFC is all hype anyways.

He got the offer because people want to see if Fedor actually is any good.

And the UFC has been fairly lame the last little while, with guys like GSP and Silva taking their fights to decisions instead of finishing them.

Fedor will bring in audiences, I bet he turned down the offer because he dosn't want to be obliged to do 5 fights for Dana Douche and Co.

...but Fedor is overhyped, and Vitor Belfort is washed up

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God damn those gif's are funny!! :lol:

Harby harby harby.... I appreciate the MMA talk we have on here from time to time but with this whole situation, your Dana-hatred is boliling over. ;)

You keep saying Dana needs Fedor. He doesn't NEED Fedor, he WANTS Fedor. The UFC will be fine without him. There's plenty of great talent in the HW division now. It woulda been great if he signed, but he didn't. Fine. Screw him. Dana is just in shock that the deal didn't go through. I'm still just beside myself.... who the HELL would turn that down?

Fedor's managment... sorry uh, Fedor has his reasons and that's fine. No way in hell does him not signing with the UFC tarnish his legacy at all. However, it does make you wonder who really is the best HW on the planet right now. IMO, the best HW talent in the world right now is in the UFC. And it just sucks that we may never get to see him compete there. And that's all I care about. I don't even care to see Fedor vs Brock. I wanna see Fedor vs Randy. Who's to say that Brock just doesn't sit on him and donkey punch him to TKO, like his big overgrown bully self always seems to do? Randy vs Brock is a much more intriguing matchup IMO.

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God damn those gif's are funny!! :lol:

Harby harby harby.... I appreciate the MMA talk we have on here from time to time but with this whole situation, your Dana-hatred is boliling over. ;)

You keep saying Dana needs Fedor. He doesn't NEED Fedor, he WANTS Fedor. The UFC will be fine without him. There's plenty of great talent in the HW division now. It woulda been great if he signed, but he didn't. Fine. Screw him. Dana is just in shock that the deal didn't go through. I'm still just beside myself.... who the HELL would turn that down?

Fedor's managment... sorry uh, Fedor has his reasons and that's fine. No way in hell does him not signing with the UFC tarnish his legacy at all. However, it does make you wonder who really is the best HW on the planet right now. IMO, the best HW talent in the world right now is in the UFC. And it just sucks that we may never get to see him compete there. And that's all I care about. I don't even care to see Fedor vs Brock. I wanna see Fedor vs Randy. Who's to say that Brock just doesn't sit on him and donkey punch him to TKO, like his big overgrown bully self always seems to do? Randy vs Brock is a much more intriguing matchup IMO.

My hatred for Dana White is well documented. As I have said many times though there are two distinct issues. One is that Dana isn't getting what he wants. But secondly and the most importantly when it comes to the UFC. Every time you mention their heavyweight champion there is always a disclaimer about Fedor. That is something he can not rid himself of except by either having Fedor fight in the UFC. Or if Fedor basically retires from MMA and then has some sort of accident which renders him unable to be a fighter any more.

As for your point about not really caring to see Brock and him fight. I'm with you on that. I would like to see the fight but it's not all that high on my list of fights I need to see. From a pure MMA perspective as I mentioned in an earlier post I would still prefer to see Fedor and Barnett fight. I would also take a Randy fight over brock at the moment. In the end If it's a fight with Brock and Fedor we eventually get, I would really prefer it outside of the UFC and not in the gimmicky cage but rather in a ring where there is much less gay and pray.

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An offer of 30 mil does not make Fedor the greatest.

The UFC is all hype anyways.

He got the offer because people want to see if Fedor actually is any good.

And the UFC has been fairly lame the last little while, with guys like GSP and Silva taking their fights to decisions instead of finishing them.

Fedor will bring in audiences, I bet he turned down the offer because he dosn't want to be obliged to do 5 fights for Dana Douche and Co.

...but Fedor is overhyped, and Vitor Belfort is washed up

If anyone wants to see if Fedor is any good. There is an invention called the internet that will magically show all his fights if a person is actually all that interested. That's all that needs said really on that.

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fights were always meant to be inside a ring whether its boxing, muai thai or mma. cage is like training wheels on a tricycle. this is why ufc will always be a second rate league in my books.

However, they have most of the top tiered talent. The octogon is their signature gimmick so i can't see them converting to a ring anytime soon. Ring has disadvantages too. I hate it when a ref has to stop a match, move the fighters to the middle and try to position them the same way before the stoppage

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However, they have most of the top tiered talent. The octogon is their signature gimmick so i can't see them converting to a cage anytime soon

They will never get away from the cage. That cage is the biggest problem with real MMA. MMA is not pushing a guy into a wall. MMA is using your skill in hand to hand combat to beat your opponent.

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Fedor Signs with Strikeforce

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Fedor Signs with Strikeforce

Monday, August 03, 2009

by Loretta Hunt (lhunt@sherdog.com)

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Fedor Emelianenko has signed a multi-fight agreement that will see the world’s No. 1-ranked heavyweight compete for Strikeforce, the promotion announced Monday.

Emelianenko, who became a free agent after Affliction Entertainment canceled its Aug. 1 event two weeks ago, will make his debut on Showtime under a co-promoted Strikeforce/M-1 Global production this fall. Emelianenko was to have faced Josh Barnett at Affliction “Trilogy” on Aug. 1, but Barnett failed a pre-fight test for anabolic steroids and was refused licensure by the California State Athletic Commission.

Emelianenko, along with his promoters and management team M-1 Global, negotiated with the UFC last week, but could not come to an agreement over co-promotion.

"Strikeforce is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world," said Emelianenko in a press release. "I am prepared to fight any of them."

Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker told Sherdog.com last week that he plans to match the stoic Russian against the likes of Brett Rogers, Fabricio Werdum and the promotion’s heavyweight champion, Alistair Overeem.

“I feel pretty confident that we could give him four or five opponents that would make sense for him,” Coker told Sherdog.com in an exclusive video interview.

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Not a big surprise considering M1 global is the co-promoter

Isn't that amazing how quickly deals are done when you are willing to actually work with someone. There is no shortage of opportunities for Fedor to make money. Once again the UFC is stuck with the Best fighter on the planet fighting somewhere else.

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Isn't that amazing how quickly deals are done when you are willing to actually work with someone. There is no shortage of opportunities for Fedor to make money. Once again the UFC is stuck with the Best fighter on the planet fighting somewhere else.

Strikesforce has nothing to lose. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world.

It makes no sense for them to team up with a rival company just because of one fighter.

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Strikesforce has nothing to lose. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world.

It makes no sense for them to team up with a rival company just because of one fighter.

It makes sense if they want to actually have the best fighter in the world. The UFC has never been serious about the fights and cards it puts together. If it were they would actually have a real ranking system. But they don't because they prefer to match their opponents up by tv ratings rather than who is actually the best. It would be the same as if Hockey or football or any other sport for that matter set their games up by television ratings rather than actual relative stats.

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Strikesforce has nothing to lose. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world.

It makes no sense for them to team up with a rival company just because of one fighter.

Fedor just tarnished his legacy with this move. Will always be regarded as a chump now who only fights second tier fighters. He runs away from competition as to not hurt his inflated 30-1 record riddled with chump fighters.

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