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UFC Updates:

Carlos Condit pulls out of his UFC 127 match up against Chris Lytle, replaced by Brian Ebersole. Card just got a lot weaker.

Thiago Silva pulls out of his UFC 130 match up against Rampage Jackson, will be replaced by Rashad Evans setting up a rematch of UFC 114.

Is the UFC staged? Why on earth would Jon Jones get the title shot after beating Bader, when Rampage just beat Machida? Instead of a fight with the champ, he gets the #1 contender.

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UFC Updates:

Carlos Condit pulls out of his UFC 127 match up against Chris Lytle, replaced by Brian Ebersole. Card just got a lot weaker.

Thiago Silva pulls out of his UFC 130 match up against Rampage Jackson, will be replaced by Rashad Evans setting up a rematch of UFC 114.

Is the UFC staged? Why on earth would Jon Jones get the title shot after beating Bader, when Rampage just beat Machida? Instead of a fight with the champ, he gets the #1 contender.

Awwww man. I really wanted to see that fight. I'm also kinda glad that his opponent is going to be against Rashad. I see Rampage putting a whopping on

Rampage declined. The UFC went to him first before going to Jones but Rampage said it was too short notice. He would've had to cut something like 45pounds in 2months.

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how would strikeforce go bankrupt? Most american mma fans dont even know who fedor is sadly.

Amazing night of fights. Unfortunant that Fedors eye closes. Because the winner of the 3rd round would have won the fight. I love fedor but i tihnk he should retire now. The guys had an AMAZING career and will go down as one of the greatest ever and in many peoples eyes, the greatest ever.

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how would strikeforce go bankrupt? Most american mma fans dont even know who fedor is sadly.

Amazing night of fights. Unfortunant that Fedors eye closes. Because the winner of the 3rd round would have won the fight. I love fedor but i tihnk he should retire now. The guys had an AMAZING career and will go down as one of the greatest ever and in many peoples eyes, the greatest ever.

remember when elite XC had kimbo slice fight and lose and then went bankrupt same thing strikeforce was built around fedor thats why there heavyweight division has so many people, strikeforce now has Dan Henderson as the only fighter the ufc would want back

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remember when elite XC had kimbo slice fight and lose and then went bankrupt same thing strikeforce was built around fedor thats why there heavyweight division has so many people, strikeforce now has Dan Henderson as the only fighter the ufc would want back

"On October 4, 2008, prominent EliteXC fighter Kimbo Slice lost via early knockout to late replacement fighter Seth Petruzelli. The unexpected outcome of this fight drew a great deal of attention, and subsequent comments by Petruzelli that he was offered a monetary bonus to employ certain techniques during the fight (comments he later recanted and obfuscated), raised the question of undue influence by EliteXC representatives in fights. Significant debt incurred by parent company Pro Elite with no investors or buyers showing interest[8] caused the subsequent cancellation of the November 8, 2008 event. Combined with the Florida State Athletic Commission launching an investigation into the Slice/Petruzelli fight, Pro Elite announced on October 20, 2008 that they would cease operations."

Pretty brutal statement but i'll try and reason anyways

Not exactly the same thing. Rigging a fight so a youtube sensation could win compared Fedor losing to a legit top 10 fighter by doctor stoppage. The companies are built completley differently. Strikeforce has a lot of money invested into building their talent. Fedor is one of their biggest names, but he's not the end all be all of strikeforce. Strikeforce has continued to put on very entertaining cards, and their popularity will only increase. It will not go down because of Fedor losses or possible retirement.

As for guys the UFC would want, Henderson is not the only guy lol. I wouldn't even put him in the top 5 or maybe top 10 guys that they would want from strikeforce. How about Overeem, Silva, Werdum, Jacare, Diaz, Melendez, Moussasi, King Mo, KJ Noons, Roger Gracie, Paul Daley(actually maybe not that one :lol:)

Point being, strikeforce has alot of talent still and their taking the right approach into building their brand. Companies like Bodog, elite xc, affliction have died for a reason.

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i never even heard of the rigging of that kimbo fight but even if it wasent im sure elite xc would not be in great shape plus any fighter in strikeforce would most likely take a ufc contract (a la Jake sheilds) watch for silva to get to the ufc and diaz got his start in the ufc werdum was in the ufc and he got cut granted he has probably changed his attitude/training

most of strikeforces fighters (IMO) are more brawlers not one to stick to a game plan for the W like coture when he fought vera or GSP vs hardy

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i never even heard of the rigging of that kimbo fight but even if it wasent im sure elite xc would not be in great shape plus any fighter in strikeforce would most likely take a ufc contract (a la Jake sheilds) watch for silva to get to the ufc and diaz got his start in the ufc werdum was in the ufc and he got cut granted he has probably changed his attitude/training

most of strikeforces fighters (IMO) are more brawlers not one to stick to a game plan for the W like coture when he fought vera or GSP vs hardy

You're right about elite xc, they were in bad shape. The thing is most companies dont really develop any talent. The reason why Bellator and Strikeforce has been succesful is because they've been developing talent. They're not paying UFC rejects big money to fight for their organization.

As for most strikeforce fighters wanting to go to the ufc, that really makes no sense. A couple of fighters have gone from strikeforce to the UFC and vice versa. It really depends on the contract they get. Alot of fighters dont like the way the UFC is run. Their is a reason why Fedor never signed with them and basically refused to do so most his career. The UFC is a better company. I'm not argueing that. I love the UFC. But its not like strikeforce is the minor leagues like Dana White likes to say.Their a legit organization thats going to continue to improve. The general consensus is that their HW division is better then the UFC's.

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