Pure Class Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 i agree Jon Jones is that good, Shogun should have done better, but Jones controls most of his fights Look at this.... Jon Jones: Height: 6ft 4 Reach: 84.5 In Rashad Evans: Height: 5ft 11 Reach: 74.5 In Look at the reach advantage Jones has hey all the credit in the world to bones, he's a helluva fighter and its gonna be hard for anyone to strip the title of him...as long as he stays in shape he's too long and too quick to get hit hard and his wrestling is off the charts... im just saying the fact that shogun was completely gassed 4 minutes into the 1st round is embarrassing and disgraceful thats complete disrespect to your opponent, the belt and the sport in general. after the 1st 90 seconds he was already stepping slow and dragging his heels. he had an extra layer on his stomach and his conditioning had obviously slipped. looks to me like he forgot that you bust your butt off to be the best; to win the title, and youve gotta bust it twice as hard to retain the title. he got satisfied, and he got lazy, and he got his ass kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 hey all the credit in the world to bones, he's a helluva fighter and its gonna be hard for anyone to strip the title of him...as long as he stays in shape he's too long and too quick to get hit hard and his wrestling is off the charts... im just saying the fact that shogun was completely gassed 4 minutes into the 1st round is embarrassing and disgraceful thats complete disrespect to your opponent, the belt and the sport in general. after the 1st 90 seconds he was already stepping slow and dragging his heels. he had an extra layer on his stomach and his conditioning had obviously slipped. looks to me like he forgot that you bust your butt off to be the best; to win the title, and youve gotta bust it twice as hard to retain the title. he got satisfied, and he got lazy, and he got his ass kicked. This post if full of so much fail. You know he was coming off knee surgery right? When you have almost a year off since your last fight, you're gonne be rusty. The fact that he was flabby means little to nothing in sport. Their are alot of guys that are aesthetically fit and look like pro body builders, but gas out in a minute. Fedor is a short fat russin rude that had some of the best cardio in his heavyweight weight class. You have to give Jones credit, he rocked shogun within a few seconds, and rocked him hard more then once in the first round. Which is why he looked very sloppy early on. On top of that, those elbows to the body are gonna wear you down fast. The fact that shogun appeared to have no gameplan for that fight was rather disgraceful but his conditioning wasn't poor because he didn't train properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 he can't take a punch, a joke? C'mon man, why you hating......Did you see him beat Shane Carwin? He took a load of punches alright And Jones......how isn't that true? When anyones see's him standing, its like damn, but when they try taking him down and he still dominates them on the ground too, then its like well i guess its not fair to say he can't take a punch. But its more so that he freaks out when he does. Which is really messed up considering he's a pro fighter. The way he reacted when both carwin and cain began to attack him was rather pathetic. Running away both times and curling into a ball. The guys got balls, but clearly he doesn't spar very hard if he's still panicing when punches are being thrown at him. As for the jones comment. The guys amazing. He's a freak athlete, with a freak body. But theirs a differance between that, and skill. He uses his attributes well, which lead to alot of his success. But besides his wrestling, which is amazing. His striking is not great, its good but not great. Or neither is his BJJ. But he's so young and it doesn't even have to be at this stage of his career. He's able to utilize his reach so well, that no one can really figure out a way to attack him. But guys like Aldo and GSP are the guys that you can say are super skilled and well rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Class Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 This post if full of so much fail. You know he was coming off knee surgery right? When you have almost a year off since your last fight, you're gonne be rusty. The fact that he was flabby means little to nothing in sport. Their are alot of guys that are aesthetically fit and look like pro body builders, but gas out in a minute. Fedor is a short fat russin rude that had some of the best cardio in his heavyweight weight class. You have to give Jones credit, he rocked shogun within a few seconds, and rocked him hard more then once in the first round. Which is why he looked very sloppy early on. On top of that, those elbows to the body are gonna wear you down fast. The fact that shogun appeared to have no gameplan for that fight was rather disgraceful but his conditioning wasn't poor because he didn't train properly. stopped reading right there going into a title defence match against someone as athletically gifted and well-conditioned as bones jones without proper cardio IS embarrassing and disgraceful his family should be ashamed of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 stopped reading right there going into a title defence match against someone as athletically gifted and well-conditioned as bones jones without proper cardio IS embarrassing and disgraceful his family should be ashamed of him flab and cardio are two different things is what he's saying. Plenty of fat guys out there that are well conditioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Class Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 flab and cardio are two different things is what he's saying. Plenty of fat guys out there that are well conditioned. but not many that become a UFC champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 stopped reading right there going into a title defence match against someone as athletically gifted and well-conditioned as bones jones without proper cardio IS embarrassing and disgraceful his family should be ashamed of him maybe you should read further, because it might further educate you about the sport you clearly no little to nothing about. Like I said. A persons appearnace has to do with nothing Fedor, who most consider the greatest MMA fighter of All time. Phil Baroni (below), A guy who can't last 3 minutes in a fight without winding himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 but not many that become a UFC champion Josh Barnett Frank Mir Tim Sylvia BJ Penn Ricco Rodriguez Noguera when he won the title Matt Serra usually looks out of shape Chuch Liddell always had a beer belly so yeah..... try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksHomer Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Nam Phan pulls out of his rematch against Leonard Garcia this Saturday Replaced by the Korean Zombie. Potential fight of the year again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'm goin to the fight night in Seattle. I was really happy when they name zombie the replacment. But these fights are almost never as good as the firsts. But still, it should be a complete war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Class Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Josh Barnett Frank Mir Tim Sylvia BJ Penn Ricco Rodriguez Noguera when he won the title Matt Serra usually looks out of shape Chuch Liddell always had a beer belly so yeah..... try again you think they're fat? im afraid you may have some sort of eating disorder... bottom line is shogun was terribly out of shape and it showed. you can argue you with me til the cows come home for shogun to turn into hamburger patties and bbq if you want, but if you choose to ignore the obvious truth that he didnt spend enough time on conditioning then thats your issue, not mine. he embarrassed himself and his family. disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 you think they're fat? im afraid you may have some sort of eating disorder... bottom line is shogun was terribly out of shape and it showed. you can argue you with me til the cows come home for shogun to turn into hamburger patties and bbq if you want, but if you choose to ignore the obvious truth that he didnt spend enough time on conditioning then thats your issue, not mine. he embarrassed himself and his family. disgraceful. Yeah i think these guys were fat. so their goes your stupid theory, try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) you think they're fat? im afraid you may have some sort of eating disorder... bottom line is shogun was terribly out of shape and it showed. you can argue you with me til the cows come home for shogun to turn into hamburger patties and bbq if you want, but if you choose to ignore the obvious truth that he didnt spend enough time on conditioning then thats your issue, not mine. he embarrassed himself and his family. disgraceful. His conditioning wasn't great by any means but nobody, both you and I dont know if he was injured or not. My initial guess was that he had to have broken some ribs in either the clinch throw or the elbows to the body. If you have every partiicapted in any sort of combat sport you know the effect that getting your bell rung can have on you. It plays a HUGE psycholoigcal effect and wears you down fast. Especially if you dont get a chance to recover. Because you're no longer thinking with a clear mind, and expend way to much energy. Shogun was blasted with a flying knee 5 seconds in On top of that. If you have ever done BJJ before, you would know how exhausting it is when you have someone on top of you for a few minutes. Let alone a guy like jones, whose covering your mouth so you can't breath, grabbing his throat, and elbowing his body. I dont understand why people think these guys are suppose to be superhuman? These things make a person fatigue, and fatigue fast. People say that shoguns conditioning looked off the chart amazing in his machida fight. Well you can't compare the two fights. Theirs a differance between standing in the pocket and exchanging a kick every 20 seconds and getting your ass kicked. I highly doubt he feels like he embaressed himself let alone his family. The guys considered the best 205 pounder of all time by many. Losing is a part of the game. Edited March 28, 2011 by Should've_Drafted_Kopitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0medyClub Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Holy. Spike has been showing previous fights all day. Did Couture honestly think he could take Lesnar? Lesnar had 45lbs on him! That's like the equivalent of two weight classes. No matter how skilled you are, that's a massive disadvantage to overcome. He could just beat you with brute force.. and that's basically how it happened. Edited March 26, 2011 by c0medyClub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax19 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Lesnar vs Dos Santos in Vancouver!!! http://tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=359969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☆➊ R. 'Superman' Kesler ➐☆ Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Lesnar vs Dos Santos in Vancouver!!! http://tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=359969 Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!! Lesnar's my 3rd favourite fighter, hope he gets back on track! Fights gonnna be bosss although Santos is a very skilled fighter himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0medyClub Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 <br />Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!! <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Lesnar's my 3rd favourite fighter, hope he gets back on track! Fights gonnna be bosss although Santos is a very skilled fighter himself!<br /> Too bad there's a ceiling in the heavyweight class. I'd love to see someone bigger than Lesnar come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Korean Zombie's Twister was sickkkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 he can't take a punch, a joke? C'mon man, why you hating......Did you see him beat Shane Carwin? He took a load of punches alright A few maybe. He blocked most since Carwin just swung wildly. When Brock takes on a smart, pinpoint puncher like Cain or JDS, he can't take the punches. I'm afraid dude doesn't like to get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksHomer Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 fitch withdraws from rematch fight against penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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