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36 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Tolls are a necessity.  That’s the best way to pay off the bridges.  People could choose transit, and not pay the toll.  

Many people in the lowermainland need to use cars.  Transit does not go to MANY work sites.  In the trades, transit is not an option. 

 

Tolls are not necessary. BC government has money to help pay for intrastructure that benefits all the citizens of BC. 

 

If you want to put up a toll.... start tolling the Sea to Sky as it is primarily used by tourists and rich vancouverits heading off to ski at their chalets...

 

Don't toll BC workers and trades guys trying to make a living and provide food and shelter to their kids/families. 

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1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said:

Many people in the lowermainland need to use cars.  Transit does not go to MANY work sites.  In the trades, transit is not an option. 

 

Tolls are not necessary. BC government has money to help pay for intrastructure that benefits all the citizens of BC. 

 

If you want to put up a toll.... start tolling the Sea to Sky as it is primarily used by tourists and rich vancouverits heading off to ski at their chalets...

 

Don't toll BC workers and trades guys trying to make a living and provide food and shelter to their kids/families. 

Toll the Sea to Sky.  I’m good with tolls to pay for mega infrastructure projects.  Then there would be monies available for snow clearing.

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43 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

So I guess we're done here then. Bummer. I was hoping for more. 

Here is one good tweet from TransLink today the day after the $€!+ show they had. I came for the comments. Not sure if BB is equipped to handling social media but it’s ironic and a good giggle this morning.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/TransLink/status/1217808891100180481

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

That’s just stupid.  Sidewalks should come first so people don’t walk on the roads.  Just shows how our government has no clue.  

Aren't sidewalks the responsibility of the property owner (residential or commercial)?

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2 minutes ago, Kragar said:

Aren't sidewalks the responsibility of the property owner (residential or commercial)?

They are where I live, but there are also plenty that are on, or adjacent to city property. Those are up to the municipal government to deal with.

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3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

They are where I live, but there are also plenty that are on, or adjacent to city property. Those are up to the municipal government to deal with.

Good point.  Wasn't thinking of that

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Another snowfall warning for Metro Vancouver:

 

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Snowfall warning in effect for:

  • Metro Vancouver - northeast including Coquitlam and Maple Ridge
  • Metro Vancouver - southeast including Surrey and Langley

Snowfall with total amounts of 5 to 10 cm is expected.

Bands of heavy snow will move through the region late this morning and early this afternoon giving local snowfall amounts of 5 to 10 cm. Once the bands move through, conditions will improve but a chance of flurries will remain through the afternoon.

 

Be prepared to adjust your driving with changing road conditions. Prepare for quickly changing and deteriorating travel conditions. Visibility may be suddenly reduced at times in heavy snow.

Please continue to monitor alerts and forecasts issued by Environment Canada. To report severe weather, send an email to BCstorm@canada.ca or tweet reports using #BCStorm.

https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42

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As bad as things are in BC, they're a lot worse in the Maritimes:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/weather/topstories/state-of-emergency-declared-in-st-johns-raging-blizzard-brings-eastern-newfoundland-to-a-standstill/ar-BBZ2Onm?li=AAggNb9

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The City of St. John's declared a state of emergency Friday as a massive storm system moves through the eastern part of Newfoundland.

 

A blizzard whipping its way through the region has metro St. John's hunkering down for the day, bracing against severe weather that is delivering heavy snow and which will late bring extraorinarily strong winds.

Mayor Danny Breen declared the state of emergency at 11 a.m. NT, ordering all businesses to close. All vehicles, except for emergency crews, have been instructed to leave the roads.

"Anybody that's out right now, you need to return to your home and you need to stay there until we lift the state of emergency," Breen told CBC News.

More than 75 centimetres of snow is expected to fall on the Avalon Peninsula by Friday night, while winds are expected to gust to as high as 150 km/h in coastal areas.

 

The storm is so powerful that the Newfoundland and Labrador government has pulled its plows from regional highways.

Officials in the capital said city plows had been focusing on main thoroughfares to facilitate emergency vehicles. 

Conditions have been steadily deteriorating through the morning, with visibility getting worse as winds pick up. Breen indicated the potential for power failures was a deciding factor in ordering the state of emergency.

"When you get the high winds like that, and the snow, there's just so many issues at play that you really do need to just shut it down, get everything cleaned up," Breen said, adding he doesn't recall the city facing such a severe storm in decades.

The last time St. John's declared a state of emergency was an ice storm that struck the region in 1984, he said.

Breen said he isn't sure at this point when the order will be lifted, as much depends on cleanup that the city had already struggled with after back-to-back storms.

 

 

Through Friday morning, between nine and 10 centimetres of snow were falling per hour in St. John's, according to CBC meteorologist Ashley Brauweiler.

The rest of the province hasn't been spared.

Environment Canada has a blizzard warning in effect for much of eastern Newfoundland, as well as the Bay of Exploits and the Bonavista Peninsula on the north coast.

"This is gonna be a bad storm," says Mike Vandenberg, meteorologist at the Environment Canada weather office in Gander, N.L.

Vandenberg said snowfall rates of possibly more than five centimetres an hour are possible through the day.

"Visibility is expected to stay pretty bad with a lot of snow blowing around for the next 36 hours or so."

The Newfoundland and Labrador English School District has closed a slew of schools in the eastern and central regions, while Memorial University, the Marine Institute and the College of the North Atlantic are also shut for the day.

Metrobus cancelled its public transit service before snow even fell.

Most flights are cancelled at St. John's International Airport.

The state of emergency order affects taxis. Jiffy Cabs, one of the best-known companies in St. John's, said it is the first time in the business's history that it ever pulled its entire fleet off the road.

 

The Marine Atlantic ferry service has cancelled its morning crossings between North Sydney, N.S., and Port aux Basques, N.L.

Vandenberg said that with winds gusting so high, he would not be surprised if there were some power outages by Friday night.

With that wind, total snowfall amounts will be "impossible to tell," he said, with large drifts expected in some areas.

Vandenberg said it could take a couple of days for St. John's to fully dig out.

Winds picked up early Friday morning and snow started falling around 4:30 a.m. The strongest wind gusts will come in the evening.

The blizzard conditions are expected to persist into Saturday afternoon.

St. John's Mayor Danny Breen said the track of the storm will make snow clearing a challenge, as winds will continue to blow snow onto roads while crews try to clear priority routes.

"The problem with the volume of snow that we're getting and the rate that it will fall is that once we get through priority one, we may get partway through the priority two streets, and we'll have to go back and start the priority ones again," Breen said.

"And the high winds certainly make that even more of a challenge."

All of the city's crews are out trying to keep roads open, Breen said, but it will take time to get roads and sidewalks cleared as the storm rages.

The province has issued a public advisory, citing the possibility of "poor to near zero visibility," and warning of possible coastal flooding and elevated water levels. People are being asked to stay home if possible.

 

RCMP Const. Dave Bourden, who is patrolling the Trans-Canada Highway outside St. John's, said there aren't a lot of vehicles on the highway, other than plows.

That's something he hopes will continue through the day: fewer motorists would mean a smaller chance of collisions.

"One of our biggest concerns is that motorists may slow down due to poor visibility, get stuck in the snow, that sort of thing, and then a second motorist comes along and makes contact with the first — collides with the first," he said.

"That's one of our bigger fears right now."

Royal Newfoundland Constabulary Const. James Cadigan said officers on duty Friday morning in the metro St. John's region don't plan on going home Friday.

"They went to work today prepared to likely be unable to leave work when their shift ended. So I mean they came prepared with food, blankets, flashlights, all these things," Cadigan said.

"I think it's important we recognize in a case of power outage we do need to be prepared. And unfortunately we have experience with this type of thing, and we know it could extend for a few days."

 

Brian Murphy, who co-owns snow-clearing company Hubert Murphy Ltd., said he was working to clear parking lots at businesses that are open in the middle of the blizzard.

However, as conditions worsen, he'll take his three plows off the road.

"When it gets to the point where you can't see what you're doing, we'll pretty much go in out of it then and let the storm happen, and when it settles down enough that you can see, we'll go back at it again," he said.

"With all this wind coming, it's gonna be difficult to do your job when you can't see what you're at."

Murphy's best advice is to just stay indoors, if possible.

"Unless you're an essential service, working at the hospital or working at the fire department or police department that are essential for the public, I think it would be just a good idea to bunker down and stay at home," he said.

"Give everybody a few days to get it all cleaned up, and after that, by Monday I'm guessing that everything will be back to normal again."

 

 

75 centimeters...:blink:

 

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50 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Whew... best of luck to our eastern Canadian counterparts... I guess we don't have it so bad -_-

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