b3. Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Scott Downs, BEFORE he was closer I was talking about players on the active roster, and I didn't mind Downs or Accardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likewise Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I was talking about players on the active roster, and I didn't mind Downs or Accardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Oh, then I agree with your picks I just turned off the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerIce Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Before I was just watching the game day thing on mlb.com then I decided to go upstairs and watch it on tv. I flick on the TV and BAM literally 1 second later Vlad hits a home run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likewise Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 NINJA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 NINJA Holy crap, that is a neat picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0medyClub Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Baseball question from a casual fan! Why does the park in Boston have such high walls in the back? The Green Monster. I watch a lot of Baseball highlights and a lot of the time the ball will bounce off the wall which might have been a home run in a different park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Stinson Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 dayum Bay's got a good arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Brewer Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Baseball question from a casual fan! Why does the park in Boston have such high walls in the back? The Green Monster. I watch a lot of Baseball highlights and a lot of the time the ball will bounce off the wall which might have been a home run in a different park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 There's a bit of a push to reinstate Pete Rose on the 20th anniversary of his "lifetime" ban from baseball. This article is byMike Schmidt, although there's no indication if this is the great Phillies' third baseman, or some writer with the same name: http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=288462 It's been 20 years since Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball by then-commissioner Bart Giamatti. Recently the subject came back to life, recycling the same old issues, without attention to some interesting elements that should be mentioned on the 20th anniversary. An interesting question was posed to me in a recent interview: Do you think things would have been different if Mr. Giamatti was still alive? Bart Giamatti, the commissioner on duty in 1989, was in possession of strong evidence that Pete had indeed placed bets on his team. Pete insisted he was being set up and that it could not be factually proven. Armed with secret information from an in-depth investigation, Giamatti diplomatically offered Pete a deal -- if Pete would agree to a lifetime ban, baseball would not expose its evidence and Pete could go away quietly. First, from Pete's perspective as one of baseball's superstars, almost to the point of believing he could beat anything from a traffic ticket to armed robbery, he saw that the agreement offered him an out, the right to apply for reinstatement every year. Why else would he have signed it, why else would he agree to a lifetime ban under any circumstances? Yes, you, I, and he know he was living a lie at the time. But assuming that burden would eventually get too heavy for him, and then he could appeal to Giamatti. From my perspective looking back, Giamatti was a compassionate man who would have eventually met with him, laid out a lifestyle plan that Pete would follow, and today he'd be a forgiven member of baseball's family. Sounds simple, and it could have been with the right people driving it, led by Giamatti. From baseball's perspective, putting this to bed was paramount. No telling what would ensue if it was to dig deeper. Arguably its biggest star compromised the integrity of the game. The guy that made the sprint to first on a walk, the headfirst slide, the leader of the Big Red Machine, the '80 Phillies, he played in more winning games than any player in history, he was the all-time hits leader, one of the biggest faces in baseball, and he was now considered a baseball outcast. How dare anyone test the poster hanging on the clubhouse wall, the one warning against gambling? This needed to go away, and it seemed like Mr. Giamatti had a good plan. No one, however, anticipated the untimely passing of commissioner Giamatti, especially Pete. Before Pete could ever meet with him, appeal to him, come clean and apply for reinstatement, Mr. Giamatti passed away from a heart attack. Baseball lost a great ambassador for sure, and as unimportant as it was at the time, Pete's fate now was in the hands of his successor, Fay Vincent. Vincent was close to Giamatti and felt Pete's case helped apply immense stress and was a factor in his friend's death. Vincent subsequently upheld the ban with even more fervor. Enter Bud Selig, another passionate baseball man, who inherited the Rose case, and for years refused to take calls on the subject. It was always "under advisement." OK, we all know the story from here on. Pete admitted to Selig he lied and asked for forgiveness, baseball was slow to act, Pete's book came out early and stepped on the Hall of Fame unveiling of Paul Molitor and Dennis Eckersley in early 2004, and the private admission to Selig went public via the book, not from the commissioner's office. To Bud Selig, it reeked of sleaze and money, and that image has never left his brain. Pete's attempt to appeal and apply after 14 years initially seemed to be a success. However, as time went on, it was bungled from all sides. Pete remains in baseball purgatory. Now you're current, so here's my first question: Did Pete Rose, in fact, knowingly compromise the integrity of baseball? And second, did/do the players who used steroids knowingly compromise the integrity of baseball? Pete bet on the Reds to win, never to lose. He never managed with the intention of not winning. Do you believe for one second the gambling underworld was tuned into Pete's betting habits? Pete never bet big or long enough to sway the gambling line. This has all been dressing to make it clear where gambling can lead. I'm not trying to say it's not serious -- it is -- but I'm asking you to compare its impact on the game to steroid use. Steroid players knowingly ingested chemicals that gave them an unfair advantage over clean players. Not only were they compromising the game's integrity, they were jeopardizing the long term for short-term financial gain, confusing baseball history. And, oh yes, some might've broken the law. Pete bet on his team to win and has been banished from baseball for life. Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez et al, bet that they would get bigger, stronger and have a distinct advantage over everyone and that they wouldn't get caught. Which is worse? Does the penalty fit the crime? Pete's banned for life, he sells his autograph to pay bills. Ramirez and his cronies apologize, are forgiven and get $20 million a year. They giggle all the way to the bank and could end up in the Hall of Fame. Is this the way Bart Giamatti would have wanted it 20 years later? Recently, Pete's case was given a new life by the great Hank Aaron, who said Pete had served a sufficient penalty time, deserved to be reinstated and considered for the Hall. All of us thought this was a new life for Pete, as Aaron is close to commissioner Selig and could sway fellow members. Not so, as Mr. Selig went back to his favourite "under advisement" stance. He has his reasons, which I may disagree with but respect. Even if Pete were to get by the commissioner, I feel it would take serious massaging of the members by Aaron, Joe Morgan and myself to get him the needed 75 per cent quorum on a vote of Hall of Famers for election, and that may not be enough. Pete is Pete and always will be. To know him is to love him. He has a wonderful heart, but has never adjusted his lifestyle to the degree needed to impress the current administration. No one would disagree with that, but everyone must consider baseball's inconsistency in dealing with those players who have compromised the game. Twenty years have passed, isn't that enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerIce Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Baseball question from a casual fan! Why does the park in Boston have such high walls in the back? The Green Monster. I watch a lot of Baseball highlights and a lot of the time the ball will bounce off the wall which might have been a home run in a different park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Brewer Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If the wall were regular height like other ball parks, maybe 10 ft or so. All hitters would have to do is hit a fly ball to left field and it's a home run. It's only 310ft down the pole... one of the shorter fences in baseball. That's why they put a huge wall up to make up for the shortness even though it wouldn't make THAT much of a difference... it's still pretty short by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerIce Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Very true, it depends on the hitter though. A line-drive hitter will obviously get more doubles than HRs, while RH Branyan wouldn't see much of a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevforever Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Baseball question from a casual fan! Why does the park in Boston have such high walls in the back? The Green Monster. I watch a lot of Baseball highlights and a lot of the time the ball will bounce off the wall which might have been a home run in a different park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerIce Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Back when Fenway was first built the Green Monsters wall was a necessity as its only 304-310 feet from home plate, therefore narrowing down the "cheap or easy" home runs you see in some other ballparks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like the Green Monster, it is neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretzky's Mullet Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 That's the way they made it. Some of the homers that it takes away are replaced by the ~300 ft right field foul pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 So are the Yankees and Redsox going for the most total runs in a series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I hate it when the bases are loaded and you strikeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Giambi to the Rockies The Colorado Rockies have agreed to a deal with free agent Jason Giambi, according to multiple reports. Giambi was released by the Oakland Athletics earlier this month. 1n 83 games this season Giambi is hitting .193 with 11 home runs and 40 RBIs. He will reportedly join Triple-A Colorado Springs before reporting to the Rockies on Sept. 1 when rosters are expanded. "Jason is 100 percent healthy and definitely plans to continue playing," his agent Arn Tellem said in an e-mail to The Associated Press when Giambi was released. "He is confident he'll be able to contribute to a team down the stretch." The Rockies lead the National League Wild Card race by two games after Saturday's 14-11 win over the Giants. Giambi had been on the disabled list since July 20 with a strained right quadriceps muscle when he was released by Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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