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Anyone know what happened @Oakridge this morning? Caused massive delays on the Canada Line, had to wait 20 minutes @ Lansdowne since people just cut in front of me and forced me to wait for the second train. Then the train stopped for a few minutes at Abetdeen.

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Anyone know what happened @Oakridge this morning? Caused massive delays on the Canada Line, had to wait 20 minutes @ Lansdowne since people just cut in front of me and forced me to wait for the second train. Then the train stopped for a few minutes at Abetdeen.

Medical emergency. Something happened and they couldn't move the man off the train, so they shut the whole thing down.

MASSIVE CONGESTION AT BRIGHOUSE. Photos to come as soon as I get home from work :P

Bucky, you would be proud of this: a station attendant had to barricade off the stairs from the foyer of Brighouse due to overcrowding of the only platform. As well, a station attendant on the platform had to push a person's hand into the train because of overcrowding. Methinks they use Japanese train pusher youtube videos as part of training now.

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Yeah, some rowdy guy decided it'd be a good idea to stick his head out when the doors were about to close. Felt sorry for the attendants at Langara-49th, they always have to deal with people who get on before people get off. Today was particularly bad with the delays. You'd think they learn with those annoying announcements every 30 seconds.

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Yeah, some rowdy guy decided it'd be a good idea to stick his head out when the doors were about to close. Felt sorry for the attendants at Langara-49th, they always have to deal with people who get on before people get off. Today was particularly bad with the delays. You'd think they learn with those annoying announcements every 30 seconds.

During the morning commute!?

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Yeah, some rowdy guy decided it'd be a good idea to stick his head out when the doors were about to close. Felt sorry for the attendants at Langara-49th, they always have to deal with people who get on before people get off. Today was particularly bad with the delays. You'd think they learn with those annoying announcements every 30 seconds.

Ya, it's the whole "me first" mentality. It's like they think the train will leave without them if they don't wait 5 seconds for the people to get off the train first...

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I got on at Oakridge during the delay. Actually it was funny, I was on the 43 and zoned out and missed the Cambie stop. I noticed a bunch of ambulances as we went past. Got off at Main and hopped on another 43 back to Cambie.

Only had to wait for 5 minutes until a train came. They actually had a southbound train come to Oakridge, switch tracks, and then had everyone get off and go to the other platform to let us north-bounders get on. I found it odd that some of those people were supremely pissed. The attendant was polite and apologized and this one lady was yelling at him: "Your apology means nothing!"

I mean, some guy had a medical emergency which shut the system down, and your inconvenience is to switch trains. Cry me a river. I thought the whole incident was handled quite well by the staff.

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I got on at Oakridge during the delay. Actually it was funny, I was on the 43 and zoned out and missed the Cambie stop. I noticed a bunch of ambulances as we went past. Got off at Main and hopped on another 43 back to Cambie.

Only had to wait for 5 minutes until a train came. They actually had a southbound train come to Oakridge, switch tracks, and then had everyone get off and go to the other platform to let us north-bounders get on. I found it odd that some of those people were supremely pissed. The attendant was polite and apologized and this one lady was yelling at him: "Your apology means nothing!"

I mean, some guy had a medical emergency which shut the system down, and your inconvenience is to switch trains. Cry me a river. I thought the whole incident was handled quite well by the staff.

Agreed. They certainly were prepared for crowd control given the odd circumstances, the lack of updates, and the business that is the AM rush.

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You really wouldn't be surprised?

I take that to mean it happens more often than we think, based on your encounters.

It doesn't happen often, but I still wouldn't blink an eye if it did. I'm just really desensitized from all the Hollywood stardom craze now.

Medical emergency. Something happened and they couldn't move the man off the train, so they shut the whole thing down.

MASSIVE CONGESTION AT BRIGHOUSE. Photos to come as soon as I get home from work :P

Bucky, you would be proud of this: a station attendant had to barricade off the stairs from the foyer of Brighouse due to overcrowding of the only platform. As well, a station attendant on the platform had to push a person's hand into the train because of overcrowding. Methinks they use Japanese train pusher youtube videos as part of training now.

Awesome.

That head dude is kinda funny.

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http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/70395682.html

Highlights:

A forecast that the $2-billion Canada Line will lose money until 2025 is no surprise, according to TransLink officials.

B.C.'s Comptroller General, in her review of TransLink, noted the newly opened line's costs will exceed its revenues by $14 to $21 million a year for most years until then.

TransLink spokesman Ken Hardie said that's partly because TransLink has accelerated the repayment of its $545-million share of the cost of building the Canada Line. The financing of the line linking Richmond, Vancouver and the airport was fronted by private partner InTransitBC.

"We're going to pay it off sooner and own it sooner," Hardie said.

It's also normal for a new rapid transit line to be subsidized for years before approaching breakeven, he said.

The original two SkyTrain lines now make money, but fares recover only 55 per cent of the broader cost of transit service.

The Comptroller General also noted the direct Canada Line revenues don't count additional revenue TransLink may attract in part because the line makes the system as a whole more attractive.

The report found most of TransLink's cost pressures are being driven by bus system expansion, particularly into areas with low ridership, not the launch of the Canada Line.

"TransLink's debt has more than tripled since 2005," the report noted.

The report noted the Canada Line was pushed ahead of TransLink's priority to build the Evergreen Line first.

"The provincial priority was to participate in the Canada Line, in part because they felt it had a stronger business case and because of the desire to have the line available for the Olympics," the report said. "Given the provincial and federal funding availability, TransLink proceeded with the Canada Line."

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http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/70395682.html

Highlights:

A forecast that the $2-billion Canada Line will lose money until 2025 is no surprise, according to TransLink officials.

B.C.'s Comptroller General, in her review of TransLink, noted the newly opened line's costs will exceed its revenues by $14 to $21 million a year for most years until then.

TransLink spokesman Ken Hardie said that's partly because TransLink has accelerated the repayment of its $545-million share of the cost of building the Canada Line. The financing of the line linking Richmond, Vancouver and the airport was fronted by private partner InTransitBC.

"We're going to pay it off sooner and own it sooner," Hardie said.

It's also normal for a new rapid transit line to be subsidized for years before approaching breakeven, he said.

The original two SkyTrain lines now make money, but fares recover only 55 per cent of the broader cost of transit service.

The Comptroller General also noted the direct Canada Line revenues don't count additional revenue TransLink may attract in part because the line makes the system as a whole more attractive.

The report found most of TransLink's cost pressures are being driven by bus system expansion, particularly into areas with low ridership, not the launch of the Canada Line.

"TransLink's debt has more than tripled since 2005," the report noted.

The report noted the Canada Line was pushed ahead of TransLink's priority to build the Evergreen Line first.

"The provincial priority was to participate in the Canada Line, in part because they felt it had a stronger business case and because of the desire to have the line available for the Olympics," the report said. "Given the provincial and federal funding availability, TransLink proceeded with the Canada Line."

The report found the main culpret of the cost pressures on translink is that they are trying to increase bus service to areas with low ridership? Well, call me crazy, but how about they just don't do that? Who in that low ridership is going to mind? And really, odds are they live in a car-centric neighbourhood anyways, and should be reminded that with the yard and privacy tends to come a lack of nearby services. And if your trying to get a modal shift, it's for sure the last place to be investing transit dollars. Take for example eliminating the lowest peforming 20% of bus routes, and using that money and resources to up services on the 20% most congested routes. Not only would that save a ton of money, but it would have a greater effect on getting people out of their cars than some hourly bus to Langely ever will.

I can see why ol' stealth thinks they're incompetant.

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Incompetent, slow, unreliable.

Yup.. That's Translink for ya.

There are far too many bus stops...the system revolves entirely around seniors and the handicapped. Not saying that we shouldn't accommodate them, we definitely should, but lets give it a bit more balance...we could do without a lot of the bus stops.

It's unreliable because of the high number of bus stops but also because of the enormous amount of traffic lights we have - and this is made even worst if the bus route, like the 25, is long. Then, there's the process of loading in baby strollers and wheelchairs....everything adds up to making the bus system extremely unreliable.

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Ottawa approves LRT

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Transit+committee+light+rail+train+option/2238722/story.html

Transit committee OK’s light-rail train option

Low-floor vehicles thought to be better fit for new transit system

By Neco Cockburn, The Ottawa citizenNovember 19, 2009

Ottawa’s transit committee has approved light-rail trains for the new transit system.

Committee chairman Alex Cullen called the approval a “very necessary, major step” after staff told the committee that the light-rail transit (LRT) trains were thought to be a better fit for the city than heavier metro-style trains. The LRT trains have low floors and are powered by an overhead wire.

The city still needs funding from the provincial and federal governments to go ahead with its transit project, but “with this choice, we now know what we’re ordering,” Cullen said.

The choice of train goes before city council on Nov. 25, but Cullen said he expected council would also approve LRT.

Another key date for the transit project will be Dec. 16, when the transit committee is expected to deal with the environment assessment for the downtown transit tunnel.

The city hopes to get around $700 million from each level of government for its estimated $2.1-billion project.

Cullen said the city would submit formal requests to the federal and provincial governments after the project went before council in January and the final cost was determined.

“Then the ball is in their court, but everybody knows it’s coming,” Cullen said.

“Both levels of government have said, ‘We want to assist in this project,’ but they also are saying to us, ‘Show us the details’.”

The city had also looked at metro-style rail technology, which is used in cities such as Montreal and Toronto.

However, those trains have higher floors that are difficult for some passengers to climb onto because a lot of the mechanics are under the train cars.

The heavier trains would also require expensive grade separation of the corridor and fencing off of the corridor in areas such as the Ottawa River Parkway.

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However, those trains have higher floors that are difficult for some passengers to climb onto because a lot of the mechanics are under the train cars.

Wow, that's a reason? Build a raised platform at the station! Sounds like an excuse after a decision was already made to justify the decision rather than being part of the thought process.

And to think this in a town that has a very sucsesful bus only lane network. Too bad it wasn't in operation while I was there due to the strike, but apparently it's faster than driving. If there is something to copy from Ottawa, it would be that.

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