nitronuts Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 (edited) last time, nitronuts told us that the RAV line can fit for 400 people. That is only half of the 800 Metrotown shoppers . 1) 400 is the crush load....Vancouverites don't know how to crush, so we'd probably won't ever reach that - it's more of a Hong Kong thing. The normal capacity is 334 passengers, as originally advertised. They probably pulled the 400 figure to make it look better, yet Translink doesn't even use crush load capacities as its figures. 2) There were actually 8,000 shoppers stranded at Metro. ROTEM-CANADA LINE (40 VEHICLES) Maximum design speed / Trainset : 90km/h / 2cars/trainset Dimensions (L x W x H) : 20,000x3,000x3,670 (mm) Gauge : Standard gauge ( 1,435mm ) Body : Stainless steel Doors : Electric pocket sliding doors Air Conditioner : HVAC+Floor Heater (2sets/car) Brake / Coupler : Knorr air braking / Automatic coupler Bogie : Bolsterless Bogie, Out-board type Main electrical equipment : Induction motor / VVVF inverter Signal, HMU : ATC/ATO, Monitoring equipment Applied standard : North American Standards Features : Third Rail, RAMS application Authority | SNC Lavalin Number of vehicles | 40 Contract date | 2005. 9. 30 Delivery date | `08. 03. 31 - `09. 04. 04 And I should mention that at 334 passengers, the trains have the equivalent capacity of a 4-car Mark I train or four 40-footer buses put together. The Canada Line itself has a theoretical max. capacity of 15,000 passengers per hour per direction (pphpd), and it's amazing to know that the Expo Line only uses 12,000 pphpd of its 25,000-30,000 pphpd capacity during peak hours. Edited December 27, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 SkyTrain problems today: VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The Millennium Line is almost fully operating following a morning glitch that took it out of service for a while. The section between Production Way and Lake City Stations is out of service. Although SkyTrain is running from VCC-Clark to Sperling and from Lougheed Town Centre to Columbia Station. A bus bridge is running between Lougheed and VCC-Clark, trying to cover the stretch between Production Way and Lake City. No word yet on what the cause of the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 The reason WHY you should never force open doors on a SkyTrain... SkyTrain runs between stations with open doors Updated: Sun Dec. 28 2008 16:29:36 Cathryn Atkinson, ctvbc.ca Passengers on SkyTrain got the ride of their lives Saturday afternoon when they were forced to take the trip with the doors open. The train was leaving the New Westminster Station, heading towards 22nd Street at 4:45 p.m., when at least three doors failed to close. Passengers had nothing between them, the track and the distant ground below the rail. Drew Snider of TransLink said technicians repairing cars at the front of train at the time had allowed it to run in manual mode, and had bypassed the alarms that usually notify staff that the doors haven't closed. He added that TransLink had a platform camera video of a passenger forcing the doors open and then trying to close them again but failing. The train was taken out of service at the 22nd Street Station. "In that particular spot the train had to be driven because of an electrical problem," said Snider, adding that the staff member driving the train did not see the open doors. "There's a lot of other questions that need to be answered, so we can't speculate at this time." Snider called the incident "very, very unusual" and said TransLink was looking into ensuring it never happens again. He told passengers to not try to hold doors open or force them. In terms of the recent troubles SkyTrain had been experiencing with delays caused by snow and other weather-related problems, Snider said the worst should be over, though there could be problems from melting snow on Monday. "I think we're out of it. The temperature is warming up, but not as much as we were fearing, which is good. We've taken care of the various weather-related electrical problems that we were experiencing," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 ^ Maybe I should avoid the SkyTrain for a while. They seem to be having problems left and right lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtzfan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 ^ Maybe I should avoid the SkyTrain for a while. They seem to be having problems left and right lately. If you have to travel to Metrotown or some further places, it is better to take the skytrain. - much faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) If you have to travel to Metrotown or some further places, it is better to take the skytrain. - much faster This month, I've been going to Lougheed way more often than normal, for some reason. But the SkyTrain principle still applies; unfortunately, it's on the Millennium Line, which has appeared to be problematic as of late (moreso than the Expo Line, it seems). Normally, you'd be onto something because outside of Vancouver, the University Endowment Lands and Richmond, I commute to Metrotown the most often. (This month has been unusually skewed towards Lougheed, SFU and North Vancouver, for me.) Edited December 29, 2008 by BuckyHermit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck champs Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Just for you Bucky: SkyTrain Due to electronics issue near Joyce Station, SkyTrain is separating the Millennium Line from the Expo Line. Millennium Line trains are running from VCC-Clark to Columbia Station then turning back at Columbia Station. Those wishing to go from Millennium Line stations to South Burnaby or Vancouver, or from downtown Vancouver on Millennium Line will need to transfer at Columbia. There are lengthy delays on the Expo Line as Sky Train attendants are manually driving the trains from Broadway to Metrotown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 SkyTrain Due to electronics issue near Joyce Station, SkyTrain is separating the Millennium Line from the Expo Line. Millennium Line trains are running from VCC-Clark to Columbia Station then turning back at Columbia Station. Those wishing to go from Millennium Line stations to South Burnaby or Vancouver, or from downtown Vancouver on Millennium Line will need to transfer at Columbia. There are lengthy delays on the Expo Line as Sky Train attendants are manually driving the trains from Broadway to Metrotown. It's sad when the SkyTrain has so many problems within one week that none of this is surprising anymore. The system is currently acting like it's female and Asian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 It's sad when the SkyTrain has so many problems within one week that none of this is surprising anymore. The system is currently acting like it's female and Asian. 'cept the Skytrain's not in Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtzfan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 'cept the Skytrain's not in Richmond It will be the same situation when the Canada line starts operating on Aug. 1st, 09. (Saturday) They will all take the skytrain to see the fireworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 i nearly fell off my chair reading this one: SkyTrain runs between stations with open doors Updated: Sun Dec. 28 2008 16:29:36 Cathryn Atkinson, ctvbc.ca Passengers on SkyTrain got the ride of their lives Saturday afternoon when they were forced to take the trip with the doors open. The train was leaving the New Westminster Station, heading towards 22nd Street at 4:45 p.m., when at least three doors failed to close. Passengers had nothing between them, the track and the distant ground below the rail. Drew Snider of TransLink said technicians repairing cars at the front of train at the time had allowed it to run in manual mode, and had bypassed the alarms that usually notify staff that the doors haven't closed. He added that TransLink had a platform camera video of a passenger forcing the doors open and then trying to close them again but failing. The train was taken out of service at the 22nd Street Station. "In that particular spot the train had to be driven because of an electrical problem," said Snider, adding that the staff member driving the train did not see the open doors. "There's a lot of other questions that need to be answered, so we can't speculate at this time." Snider called the incident "very, very unusual" and said TransLink was looking into ensuring it never happens again. He told passengers to not try to hold doors open or force them. In terms of the recent troubles SkyTrain had been experiencing with delays caused by snow and other weather-related problems, Snider said the worst should be over, though there could be problems from melting snow on Monday. "I think we're out of it. The temperature is warming up, but not as much as we were fearing, which is good. We've taken care of the various weather-related electrical problems that we were experiencing," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLoveRunningMan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I don't know if its true or not but its it true that we Vancouver have the worst transit system of all of Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 That open doors thing is awesome. I wish I was on one of those trains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) I don't know if its true or not but its it true that we Vancouver have the worst transit system of all of Canada? Our transit system is nothing like Toronto or Montreal, but it's still much better than any other city besides Canada's two largest cities. We have a much more superior transit system than Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa, etc. But when SkyTrain is extended to Coquitlam, UBC, and further into Surrey and when the rapid bus routes are implemented, I can safely say that we will be on par with Montreal and Toronto. Edited December 29, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 CTV interviewed a passenger on the doors-open train, and they said the "do-do-ding!" when the doors close never went off... A whoopsie by the attendant driving the train methinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtzfan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i nearly fell off my chair reading this one: SkyTrain runs between stations with open doors Updated: Sun Dec. 28 2008 16:29:36 Cathryn Atkinson, ctvbc.ca Passengers on SkyTrain got the ride of their lives Saturday afternoon when they were forced to take the trip with the doors open. The train was leaving the New Westminster Station, heading towards 22nd Street at 4:45 p.m., when at least three doors failed to close. Passengers had nothing between them, the track and the distant ground below the rail. Drew Snider of TransLink said technicians repairing cars at the front of train at the time had allowed it to run in manual mode, and had bypassed the alarms that usually notify staff that the doors haven't closed. He added that TransLink had a platform camera video of a passenger forcing the doors open and then trying to close them again but failing. The train was taken out of service at the 22nd Street Station. "In that particular spot the train had to be driven because of an electrical problem," said Snider, adding that the staff member driving the train did not see the open doors. "There's a lot of other questions that need to be answered, so we can't speculate at this time." Snider called the incident "very, very unusual" and said TransLink was looking into ensuring it never happens again. He told passengers to not try to hold doors open or force them. In terms of the recent troubles SkyTrain had been experiencing with delays caused by snow and other weather-related problems, Snider said the worst should be over, though there could be problems from melting snow on Monday. "I think we're out of it. The temperature is warming up, but not as much as we were fearing, which is good. We've taken care of the various weather-related electrical problems that we were experiencing," he said. That is scary! Here is the youtube: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Expo Line only uses 12,000 pphpd of its 25,000-30,000 pphpd capacity during peak hours. What about during/after Canucks games, Lions games etc. Do you have numbers oof how many people actually take transit to and from Canucks/Lions games as opposed to those who drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 What about during/after Canucks games, Lions games etc. Do you have numbers oof how many people actually take transit to and from Canucks/Lions games as opposed to those who drive? I have no idea....I would think that they run peak capacity after the Lions/Canucks games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I have no idea....I would think that they run peak capacity after the Lions/Canucks games. And is there like actual REAL statistics on how many people hop without paying. I mean each newspaper has a different figure, and various websites claim different numbers ranging from 3% to 30% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 And is there like actual REAL statistics on how many people hop without paying. I mean each newspaper has a different figure, and various websites claim different numbers ranging from 3% to 30% The official Translink statistic on SkyTrain fare evasion has it at 2%. But it's quite underestimated....the real figure is probably between 10 to 20%. SkyTrain, as of this year, receives 260,000 boardings a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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