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I strongly disagree...

Waited with a female friend for her #26 bus at Kerr and 49th from 11:15pm to after midnight on Monday night. No buses running either direction. We got off #49 and would be just in time for the #26, but we didn't see another #49 going same fdirection till 12:15 am when she finally got on it as an alternative way to get home. She had to walk halfway home coz #49 doesn't reach her home like #26 would. At around midnight, a dude told us that he walked from 29th Ave STN because #26 buses stopped running since 9pm and he had to walk his way home.

When my friend and I called translink during our waitin g time to see when the bus would come, it told us the normal time but mentioned little or nothing about expecting delays. I can understand how buses can't get up hills and icy roads, but how about giving us updates on bus routes when we call Translink instead of just telling us to expect delays?

I didn't have to wait coz I lived 2 blocks away from that bus stop, but my female friend needed to get home and I wasn't to make her walk in the dark... Thankfully she didn't get mugged or harassed during her walk after getting off #49 bus halfway through her journey home, but what if shething happened to her just coz she couldn't take the normal bus that would've dropped her off right in front of her house?

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The official Translink statistic on SkyTrain fare evasion has it at 2%. But it's quite underestimated....the real figure is probably between 10 to 20%.

SkyTrain, as of this year, receives 260,000 boardings a day.

Whats the record for boardings in one day?

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Waited with a female friend for her #26 bus at Kerr and 49th from 11:15pm to after midnight on Monday night. No buses running either direction. We got off #49 and would be just in time for the #26, but we didn't see another #49 going same fdirection till 12:15 am when she finally got on it as an alternative way to get home. She had to walk halfway home coz #49 doesn't reach her home like #26 would. At around midnight, a dude told us that he walked from 29th Ave STN because #26 buses stopped running since 9pm and he had to walk his way home.

When my friend and I called translink during our waitin g time to see when the bus would come, it told us the normal time but mentioned little or nothing about expecting delays. I can understand how buses can't get up hills and icy roads, but how about giving us updates on bus routes when we call Translink instead of just telling us to expect delays?

I didn't have to wait coz I lived 2 blocks away from that bus stop, but my female friend needed to get home and I wasn't to make her walk in the dark... Thankfully she didn't get mugged or harassed during her walk after getting off #49 bus halfway through her journey home, but what if shething happened to her just coz she couldn't take the normal bus that would've dropped her off right in front of her house?

Typical buses, try taking the 701, that happens on a daily basis...

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Whats the record for boardings in one day?

I have no idea....I don't even think Translink knows.

Obviously, the past few days were some of the busiest for Translink in its history. However, the entire network wasn't using its full capacity considering the ice and snow problems with the trains and buses.

My guess would be the 3-days of free transit after the long transit strike a few years ago. The system was incredibly packed 24/7 and it was running at capacity.

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I have no idea....I don't even think Translink knows.

Obviously, the past few days were some of the busiest for Translink in its history. However, the entire network wasn't using its full capacity considering the ice and snow problems with the trains and buses.

My guess would be the 3-days of free transit after the long transit strike a few years ago. The system was incredibly packed 24/7 and it was running at capacity.

If you're talking about the time when the 98 B-Line as "new," that's more than a "few" years ago. I was still in elementary school then.

That was insane.

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If you're talking about the time when the 98 B-Line as "new," that's more than a "few" years ago. I was still in elementary school then.

That was insane.

lol, fine. It was during the summer before 9/11.

But yea, it was packed....I remember traveling on SkyTrain, the system had an overload and the train stopped for 30 mins on the middle of SkyBridge.

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lol, fine. It was during the summer before 9/11.

But yea, it was packed....I remember traveling on SkyTrain, the system had an overload and the train stopped for 30 mins on the middle of SkyBridge.

George Bluth from Arrested Development once said, "Never promise crazy a baby."

Similarly, TransLink should take this advice to heart: "Never promise Vancouver freebies."

(Well, maybe except for tonight.)

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I strongly disagree...

Same!

When it is not convenient to take public transportation in the province, residents have to reply on cars.

Therefore, Carbon Tax is not one of the options to save the planet.

Carbon tax affects low-income significantly.

For every 4 months, BC low-income residents receive 25 dollars to cover the Carbon tax.

This doesn't help a low-income family much when they have to pay insurance, utility bill and others. (starting this july, Terasen Gas charges us Carbon Tax on the bill :angry: )

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my friend lives near Commercial.

It is difficult for her to go to Richmond Oval.

She has to transfer 3 times.

skytrain, 99, 98, 401.

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December 31 – regular weekday fares until 5 pm, then free service

Buses will operate on a regular weekday schedule, with extended late-night service on a number of routes.

SkyTrain and SeaBus will extend late-night service by one hour, with the last train and ferry leaving Waterfront Station at 2:20 a.m.

West Coast Express PM trains will depart from downtown at 1:00, 3:00, 4:50, 5:30 and 6:20 plus the regular TrainBus service.

January 1 – holiday fares (a one-zone fare is good for travel in all three zones)

Buses, SeaBus and SkyTrain will operate on regular Sunday/holiday schedules.

There will be no West Coast Express service on New Year’s Day.

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nitronuts,

Bridgeport Canada line station is going to be a essential terminal skytrain station.

How many buses will have a bus stop at the Bridgeport skytrain station?

All the 3xx and 6xx buses will stop there, at least.

So at least:

311

351

352

354

601

602

603

604

It'd be nice to see a shortened 410 (from Bridgeport to 22nd Street Station) at Bridgeport too, methinks. And split the Railway portion of the route to a new route altogether (so basically divide 410 in half). Make the "new" 410 go down to Cambie and then continue its current routing from there.

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There are plans to create at least a Community Shuttle route to serve the Oval, but who knows if that'll actually happen.

I have not heard that there are plans about that.

where did you get this information?

(Richmond News, Richmond Review?)

If there is Community Shuttle route to serve the Oval, the bus stop should be near the 98 (or the future Brighouse skytrain station.)!

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I have not heard that there are plans about that.

where did you get this information?

(Richmond News, Richmond Review?)

If there is Community Shuttle route to serve the Oval, the bus stop should be near the 98 (or the future Brighouse skytrain station.)!

One of those two.

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Same!

When it is not convenient to take public transportation in the province, residents have to reply on cars.

Therefore, Carbon Tax is not one of the options to save the planet.

Carbon tax affects low-income significantly.

For every 4 months, BC low-income residents receive 25 dollars to cover the Carbon tax.

This doesn't help a low-income family much when they have to pay insurance, utility bill and others. (starting this july, Terasen Gas charges us Carbon Tax on the bill :angry: )

Low income residents do receive a rebate every four months. And you should also note that the carbon tax is tax neutral: which means that overall, there is no increase in tax as while a new tax is being introduced, another tax is being lowered. Income taxes have been lowered to offset carbon taxes. Personally, I'm all for the carbon tax.

BLOMBERG: A tax-neutral way to lessen fossil fuel use

By Bill Blomberg, Special to the Rocky

Published December 31, 2008 at 12:05 a.m.

In their recent Speakout piece, "The cure for carbon," professors Roger Pielke Jr. and Christopher Green argued for a small carbon tax for funding President-elect Barack Obama's promised alternative energy programs and coaxing us off of fossil fuels. While their intentions may be pristine, their proposal comes up short on several counts.

First, it is a tax increase, and no matter how small it may be (they say 5 cents per gallon of gasoline and a similar pittance on electric bills) this is probably not the time for that. Second, the authors acknowledge that the price signal it would send would be all but negligible. These shortcomings can both be addressed, however, by a much bolder and more innovative approach: increase motor fuel taxes dramatically, but offset those increases dollar-for-dollar with tax cuts elsewhere. The most attractive tax to cut would be the FICA payroll tax, mainly because it would entail no complications to existing tax codes or entail increased collection or accounting costs.

Since U.S. gasoline consumption is about 142 billion gallons a year and FICA collections are about $625 billion a year, we collect about $4 in FICA tax for every gallon of gas we consume. (Note: This is just happenstance; there's no link between those two.) FICA taxes are assessed in proportion to wages paid (up to an inflation-adjusted limit of $102,000 for Social Security). That is, they are a tax on wage labor.

Like all taxes, they drive up the cost of - and reduce demand for - the item taxed. Since labor is by definition productive, our means of collecting FICA taxes is a counterproductive tax on - and reduction in - our own national labor productivity.

To mitigate this, we could decrease FICA taxes by 50 percent (about $310 billion) and add that same amount to gas and diesel taxes (about $2.20 per gallon) thus assuring revenue neutrality - no tax increase at all. If the FICA reduction were split evenly between the employee and employer, the employee would get an immediate 3.6 percent raise and the employer would receive an equal amount. This would have the dual benefit of completely prepaying the increased fuel tax while lowering the cost of labor. (Note: The extra fuel taxes would simply replace the reduced FICA dollars on the spending/budgeting side.) Such a policy would offer a cornucopia of benefits:

* No additional bureaucracy, accounting or collection costs.

* Minimal change in regressivity (retirees would get a refundable tax credit).

* Reduced cost of hiring legal labor, spurring legal employment and productivity just when most needed. As employment rises, so do FICA collections.

* More efficient use of energy, putting downward pressure on world oil prices - in effect a "tax" on OPEC.

* Sustained demand for fuel-efficient vehicles just when Detroit most needs a boost (reducing need for bailouts).

* Environmental benefits too numerous to list here.

This tax shift would increase federal motor fuel taxes by a factor of about 10, which would go a long way toward stabilizing oil prices (with downward pressure). That in turn would promote long-term stability of the airline industry among others. It would accelerate the market for electric vehicles, opening up a plethora of non-OPEC, all-American, mostly clean energy options that are presently closed or strongly subsidy-dependent.

Under such a revenue-neutral policy the tax on motor fuels would have to increase as usage dropped, but this would be incremental. And if fuel use dropped so much that, say, a $10 per gallon tax were needed, then we could simply declare "Mission Accomplished," stop the fuel tax, revert to our present collection method, hail the demise of OPEC, and toast the tax-neutral green reinvigoration of America's economy.

I just paid $1.53 for regular in Parker. That's more than $2.20 less than we all paid in July, and neither OPEC nor Exxon Mobil sent us rebates back then. This tax shift would merely put us where we've already been, but this time with 100 percent offsets. What are we waiting for?

my friend lives near Commercial.

It is difficult for her to go to Richmond Oval.

She has to transfer 3 times.

skytrain, 99, 98, 401.

Would she like a taxi ride? Seriously, this is a huge donkey region. Transfers are a part of transit all around the world.

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It'd be nice to see a shortened 410 (from Bridgeport to 22nd Street Station) at Bridgeport too, methinks. And split the Railway portion of the route to a new route altogether (so basically divide 410 in half). Make the "new" 410 go down to Cambie and then continue its current routing from there.

That's not a good idea. ;)

Some of my friends take the 410 all the way to the 22nd skytrain station. Then they skytrain and bus to the SFU.

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That's not a good idea. ;)

Some of my friends take the 410 all the way to the 22nd skytrain station. Then they skytrain and bus to the SFU.

Include me in that group too, but the problem is that any problem east of Richmond Centre (or along No. 3 Road) would mean that the Railway portion of the route gets zonked in terms of scheduling.

I like taking it all the way to 22nd, but not at the expense of screwing up the whole timetable.

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