higgyfan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I won't dispute Alexandre Burrows' value to the team as a quality mentor for the younger players. I won't disagree with any of the great things he has done for the team on and off the ice in the past. My issue with Burrows is the $4.5M cap hit with a NTC until 2016/2017. I feel this certainly limits the team with regards to the renewal/rebuild that they have embarked on. My personal feeling is to keep him for this season as the Canucks appear to have a decent chance to make the play-offs. However, after this season; I would approach him about waiving his NTC, to make room on the RW for one of the prospects (if they are ready). RW Depth: Vrbata Burrows Hansen Kassian Dorsett Vey Virtanen Jensen Mallet Archibald My greatest fear is that all/most of the players with NTC/NMC contracts will stay and retire as Canucks or walk at UFA, and Vancouver will receive nothing at all for them at the end (like Calgary with Kiprusoff). Cap Hits Luongo = $800k/yr until 2021/2022 Edler = $5M/yr until 2018/2019 D. Sedin = $7M/yr until 2017/2018 H. Sedin = $7M/yr until 2017/2018 Hansen = $2.5M/yr until 2017/2018 Miller = $6M/yr until 2016/2017 Burrows = $4.5M until 2016/2017 Higgins = $2.5M until 2016/2017 Vrbata = $5M/yr until 2015/2016 Bieska = $4.6M/yr until 2015/2016 Hamhuis = $4.5M until 2015/2016 That's $49.4M/yr (72% of the Cap Ceiling) for 10 players all with NTCs or NMCs. That's why it's so important for the prospects to start making the jump in the upcoming years. In 2 or 3 years this team will look quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Attaboy Burr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 That's what I like to see. Burrows in the good part of the game sheet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Oh Burr how I've missed you. (Missed last game sitting in ER, heard you were incredible again) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Another goal for Burr. Great shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Good riddance Torts and WELCOME BACK BURR! Just like "Unnold", I knew, when Torts was "Terminated", Burr would "be baak"! Edited November 29, 2014 by Tiger-Hearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Burrows with his play reminds me of Burnabys Glenn Anderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenap Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 In a few games you will have to use toes))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster12 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He'll have a hat trick in one of these days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Bure to Mogilny, did he ever leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S.Strowbridge Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I have a funny feeling this thread is going to keep going, even after Burrows retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedMachine Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Love that this thread is still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Bure to Mogilny, did he ever leave? No he disintegrated into a string of malfunctioning particular consonants and vowels, floating around out there in the atmosphere with no punctuation to stop them. Next time you get the flu go get tested, they'll find traces of bad trade proposals in you. wait what thread am I in WE NEED BURRNINO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Crazy to think that after all this time, we still need burrows haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Burrows where are you? Last 5 games he's been the worst Canuck. Not just bad, by far the worst Canuck on the ice. He's easily cost the most goal. The TO game, he cost 3 goals all on his own. I hope it is just something on his mind or an injury is effecting him, I hope he plays better, the better he plays this year the higher trade value he has, but chris Higgins who's been getting paid only 2.5 million had consistently been better than burrows for the last 3 seasons (including this year). If Higgins is worth 2.5 does burrows really deserve his 4.5 for another 3 years. Burrows was resigned to that cap hit when he was putting up 50+ points and a +(25). Even if somehow he can regain his old form, can he ever be worth his value in the top 6. Would we be better off spending the 4.5 million cap hit else where? We haven't seen him play like a true top 6 forward for a long time, do we still hold on to that dream and hope that he can once again become it and then maintain it for another 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Burrows where are you? Last 5 games he's been the worst Canuck. Not just bad, by far the worst Canuck on the ice. He's easily cost the most goal. The TO game, he cost 3 goals all on his own. I hope it is just something on his mind or an injury is effecting him, I hope he plays better, the better he plays this year the higher trade value he has, but chris Higgins who's been getting paid only 2.5 million had consistently been better than burrows for the last 3 seasons (including this year). If Higgins is worth 2.5 does burrows really deserve his 4.5 for another 3 years. Burrows was resigned to that cap hit when he was putting up 50+ points and a +(25). Even if somehow he can regain his old form, can he ever be worth his value in the top 6. Would we be better off spending the 4.5 million cap hit else where? We haven't seen him play like a true top 6 forward for a long time, do we still hold on to that dream and hope that he can once again become it and then maintain it for another 3 years? The whole team has been in a bit hole they need to crawl out of. If you feel bur is the problem we will have to start calling you batman. His cap hit is too high... Thanks MG, but he's the hart and soul of the team and more then not drives the line. I acutely think nino is in a bit of a funk and throwing the line off more then burr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) The whole team has been in a bit hole they need to crawl out of. If you feel bur is the problem we will have to start calling you batman. His cap hit is too high... Thanks MG, but he's the hart and soul of the team and more then not drives the line. I acutely think nino is in a bit of a funk and throwing the line off more then burr. As I said burrows has been the worst player on the team. Re watch the TO game burrows alone is the reason the team lost, his 3 costly mistakes cost the team 3 goals. But It's not just the last 5 games but the last 3 years. Does he really deserve a value of 4.5 million for next 3 years. And do we think he can regain old form and hold it for the remainder of his contract. Doesn't matter if MG signed it, could that not be spent better else where? If a team were to offer us a pick at the trade dead line and it's a team that burrows would like waive to, is it not something we consider? Edited December 10, 2014 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 As I said burrows has been the worst player on the team. Re watch the TO game burrows alone is the reason the team lost, his 3 costly mistakes cost the team 3 goals. But It's not just the last 5 games but the last 3 years. Does he really deserve a value of 4.5 million for next 3 years. And do we think he can regain old form and hold it for the remainder of his contract. Doesn't matter if MG signed it, could that not be spend better else where? If a team were to offer us a pick at the trade dead line and it's a team that burrows would like waive to, is it not something we consider? Myself I think your off and I'd say no, were in a rebuild despite how well we've played this year and he's not hurting us with his cap space because we will and should be adding younger players over the next few years. His work ethic is going to be of great value as an influence to our young players. Keeping him is the best option for the team batman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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