Guest Dasein Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 FINALLY. Good to see him get two goals even if one of them is an EN. Also great to see Rodin get the two assists on Schroeder's goals. Hopefully this gets them going! Great to see our 1st two picks from 2009 build some chemistry and put up some points together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kreuzberg Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Are you guys even watching the Wolves games? I have watched maybe 80% of them and Schroeder has been a non factor in almost all of them. He's been getting his chance playing with talented players, but he just doesn't look like the player we saw in the preseason. However, I do understand your need to stay positive, and I do hope he turns things around. I have watched all but two games. One wasn't televised and the other was a blowout. I completely and vehemently disagree. Schroeder has been a factor in just about every game and he is developing into a good two-way player. He generates at least 3-4 good offensive chances per game this season. He was first with Archibald and Oreskovich to start the season and they had a lot of chances, then he was moved to wing with Mancari which was okay, but Mancari was playing center and he even said he wasn't comfortable there and that Schroeder was almost too fast for him. Since Schroeder's been playing with Rodin, he has been absolutely outstanding, offensively and defensively (but really he has been great defensively just about the entire season). Rodin and him have shown great chemistry together; their cycle and transition game is very good. They are both fast and can keep up with each other really well. Defensively, Schroeder has been a revelation. In position, always ready to support forwards and defensemen, and gets into passing lanes. Had about 4 takeaways last game. And in the past 3 games, he has been a fixture on the PK and has looked superb. Has been aggressive on the puck carrier and using his skating to force turnovers. Had about 3 rushes going the other way shorthanded in just one game. The only thing he needs to do is keep scoring. With the amount of chances he generates, they are bound to come. The only way he has struggled is in getting the results, which is what seems to only mattter to some. His effort has not faltered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrancoL Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I have watched all but two games. One wasn't televised and the other was a blowout. I completely and vehemently disagree. Schroeder has been a factor in just about every game and he is developing into a good two-way player. He generates at least 3-4 good offensive chances per game this season. He was first with Archibald and Oreskovich to start the season and they had a lot of chances, then he was moved to wing with Mancari which was okay, but Mancari was playing center and he even said he wasn't comfortable there and that Schroeder was almost too fast for him. Since Schroeder's been playing with Rodin, he has been absolutely outstanding, offensively and defensively (but really he has been great defensively just about the entire season). Rodin and him have shown great chemistry together; their cycle and transition game is very good. They are both fast and can keep up with each other really well. Defensively, Schroeder has been a revelation. In position, always ready to support forwards and defensemen, and gets into passing lanes. Had about 4 takeaways last game. And in the past 3 games, he has been a fixture on the PK and has looked superb. Has been aggressive on the puck carrier and using his skating to force turnovers. Had about 3 rushes going the other way shorthanded in just one game. The only thing he needs to do is keep scoring. With the amount of chances he generates, they are bound to come. The only way he has struggled is in getting the results, which is what seems to only mattter to some. His effort has not faltered. Excellent assessment. Thank you for sharing your observations. They are more valuable than the statistics posted on the Wolves website alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have watched all but two games. One wasn't televised and the other was a blowout. I completely and vehemently disagree. Schroeder has been a factor in just about every game and he is developing into a good two-way player. He generates at least 3-4 good offensive chances per game this season. He was first with Archibald and Oreskovich to start the season and they had a lot of chances, then he was moved to wing with Mancari which was okay, but Mancari was playing center and he even said he wasn't comfortable there and that Schroeder was almost too fast for him. Since Schroeder's been playing with Rodin, he has been absolutely outstanding, offensively and defensively (but really he has been great defensively just about the entire season). Rodin and him have shown great chemistry together; their cycle and transition game is very good. They are both fast and can keep up with each other really well. Defensively, Schroeder has been a revelation. In position, always ready to support forwards and defensemen, and gets into passing lanes. Had about 4 takeaways last game. And in the past 3 games, he has been a fixture on the PK and has looked superb. Has been aggressive on the puck carrier and using his skating to force turnovers. Had about 3 rushes going the other way shorthanded in just one game. The only thing he needs to do is keep scoring. With the amount of chances he generates, they are bound to come. The only way he has struggled is in getting the results, which is what seems to only mattter to some. His effort has not faltered. His two-way game has improved significantly since last year and it has been noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Schroeder saw the Shirokov drama. He probably realizes that he's not going to make the Canucks without being defensively responsible first, offensively potent second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canvoucer Vanuck Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I have watched all but two games. One wasn't televised and the other was a blowout. I completely and vehemently disagree. Schroeder has been a factor in just about every game and he is developing into a good two-way player. He generates at least 3-4 good offensive chances per game this season. He was first with Archibald and Oreskovich to start the season and they had a lot of chances, then he was moved to wing with Mancari which was okay, but Mancari was playing center and he even said he wasn't comfortable there and that Schroeder was almost too fast for him. Since Schroeder's been playing with Rodin, he has been absolutely outstanding, offensively and defensively (but really he has been great defensively just about the entire season). Rodin and him have shown great chemistry together; their cycle and transition game is very good. They are both fast and can keep up with each other really well. Defensively, Schroeder has been a revelation. In position, always ready to support forwards and defensemen, and gets into passing lanes. Had about 4 takeaways last game. And in the past 3 games, he has been a fixture on the PK and has looked superb. Has been aggressive on the puck carrier and using his skating to force turnovers. Had about 3 rushes going the other way shorthanded in just one game. The only thing he needs to do is keep scoring. With the amount of chances he generates, they are bound to come. The only way he has struggled is in getting the results, which is what seems to only mattter to some. His effort has not faltered. Thanks DJ! JS and Hodgson are similar in that they'e both much better at centre than wing, and it's terrific to know that he's finding chemistry with Rodin. Last year Hodgson was the Moose's best player hands down as Claude Noel kept saying, but the finish wasn't there on a lot of nights. Kind of how like it is with JS right now. Both guys were generating lots of chances but they just weren't going in for some reason. It's just weird how our prospects all seem to be going through this recently. I'd love for them to start potting more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Sounds like he's going to be taking Kesler's route to the top. He seems like good 3rd line center material, depending on what happens with our current center situation (that is, how many we already have) Schroeder is buying into the system, which is a good thing if he wants to make the team. Shirokov had this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Alright, so it sounds like when we question his scoring aptitude during games, he nets two! Lets keep it up! PS: I'm really happy that Schroeder has worked on his defensive game, it will just make it that much easier to integrate him into our system when he's ready to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Every highlight package I watch of the Wolves has Schroeder making an unbelievable pass and his linemate not being able to finish. This guy's talents are being wasted playing with AHL plugs. Hopefully other parts of his game are rounding out nicely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent.S Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Every highlight package I watch of the Wolves has Schroeder making an unbelievable pass and his linemate not being able to finish. This guy's talents are being wasted playing with AHL plugs. Hopefully other parts of his game are rounding out nicely though. I've watched quite a bit of AHL games and I have to agree, he makes unbelievable plays and is great defensive as well. Always working hard, getting his stick in the way ect... Hopefully what he takes out of the AHL is conditioning, getting to know how physical It may be, and how to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I've watched quite a bit of AHL games and I have to agree, he makes unbelievable plays and is great defensive as well. Always working hard, getting his stick in the way ect... Hopefully what he takes out of the AHL is conditioning, getting to know how physical It may be, and how to compete. exactly, the kid has nhl talent that much is obvious the rest remains to be seen, i think he would feed kes and booth a lot of nice pucks in a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So what is going on with this kid? I was really excited when we drafted him.. But he still hasnt made our roster. His AHL numbers are also unimpressive to say the least. Bust? I just havent been following him, so can someone let me know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 There's a lot of players who will put up great numbers in the A but sort of fade away in the NHL. I think Jordan has an opposite effect, playing in the NHL with players who can finish his great passes more often will really benefit him. That being said I'd like to see him shoot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devoted Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So what is going on with this kid? I was really excited when we drafted him.. But he still hasnt made our roster. His AHL numbers are also unimpressive to say the least. Bust? I just havent been following him, so can someone let me know... Jordan Schroeder was never expected to jump into the NHL straight from the NCAA. Not many 20 or 21 year olds do, let alone ones that are 5'9. He is steadily learning to be a two-way player while experiencing the grind of an 80+game schedule in the AHL. While his numbers may leave some wanting more, watching his play indicates that those points will come and that his defensive awareness has sky rocketed. He has an NHL shot to go with his very high hockey IQ, but it'll be his passing abilities that will likely shine through when he does eventually make the transition to the bigs. In no way should he be considered a bust Edit* You must also consider the depth chart in which he must climb in order to make the NHL roster. The strength of Vancouver's top 9 forwards allow them the luxury of not having to rush any prospects through the system. This will only benefit Schroeder, and the other prospects, in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarcasticPerson Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So what is going on with this kid? I was really excited when we drafted him.. But he still hasnt made our roster. His AHL numbers are also unimpressive to say the least. Bust? I just havent been following him, so can someone let me know... People really need to stop thinking that 1st Rounders need to jump in immediately or they're a bust. Most 1st Rounders these days take atleast 1 or 2 more years of Junior/College before going to the AHL where they play half or a full season before they get consideration for making the full jump. Canucks fans really need to lower those expectations as all our recent 1st Rounders have been unfairly labelled busts fair too early in their careers. Grabner was apparently a bust, same with Hodgson last year. Patrick White was unfairly labelled a bust upon being drafted (yeah he looks bad now but not then)! I really don't want to see Jensen suffer the same fate next preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 People really need to stop thinking that 1st Rounders need to jump in immediately or they're a bust. Most 1st Rounders these days take atleast 1 or 2 more years of Junior/College before going to the AHL where they play half or a full season before they get consideration for making the full jump. Canucks fans really need to lower those expectations as all our recent 1st Rounders have been unfairly labelled busts fair too early in their careers. Grabner was apparently a bust, same with Hodgson last year. Patrick White was unfairly labelled a bust upon being drafted (yeah he looks bad now but not then)! I really don't want to see Jensen suffer the same fate next preseason. I agree, he's a long way from being considered a bust. But it doesn't change the fact that this kid seriously needs to pick it up. He's in his second season in the AHL now, there's no more excuses about being new to the league. He's on pace for about 26 points right now. That's not good at all, that means he's actually regressing, which you never wanna see in a players development. To me, there seemed to be alot of arrogance from Schroeder early on, and rightfully so since he's a very skilled player. But this may be one of the biggest reasons, along with his size, why scouts avoided him. Because a player can have all the skill in the world, but if they don't have the work ethic, they're not going anywhere. I think I remember hearing Schroeder in an interview say that his first season taught him how hard he has to work to take the next step. I think that maybe he thought the transition into the AHL was alot easier than it would be. Hopefully he did put in the work over the summer, and he heats up in the second half of the season as he was known to for the Gophers. I really think that last season for the Gophers hurt his development though. If he had played in the WHL, I think he would be alot further along now. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devoted Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I agree that a year in Everett would have been beneficial for his development. The Gopher's program has digressed significantly in the last 5 years, and we'll never truly know the extent that it affected Jordan and his progression has a player and person. I watch almost every Wolves game and let me tell you, his point production does not indicate the amount of offensive chances he creates. On top of that, he is no longer a liability in his own end, an issue that needed to be overhauled before having any chance of cracking the NHL roster. I suspect his numbers will improve over the second half of this season and the next. Look for him to legitimately compete for a spot on the Canucks in 2013-2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Right after I post that, he has a 2 point night (1G, 1A) in a 2-1 Wolves win. I guess I should criticize him more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Right after I post that, he has a 2 point night (1G, 1A) in a 2-1 Wolves win. I guess I should criticize him more often. Holy shizz...Eddie Lack 40 saves in a 2-1 win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 i watched two games last week and if some plug named davies could score to save his life schroeder would have had 2 or 3 assists. Sometimes as a passing centre you are at the mercy of your wingers. Although i still think schroeder has another gear to give and i think we will find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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