Weber's Playoff Beard Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Bieksa reminds me of Phaneuf.. chronic underachievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILED-BY-THE-HAMMER Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Bieksa reminds me of Phaneuf.. chronic underachievers. that is completely out of line shame on you shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Bieksa reminds me of Phaneuf.. chronic underachievers. Phagoof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 How long are you guys gonna rip on Bieksa for? I can guarantee you that Bieksa: 1) doesn't give a crap about what fans say or the media 2) is laughing making 3.75 mil 3) plus has a hot wife After his contract is up he will probably try to squeeze out a couple of mil from some team that desperately needs d. If not he'll bounce around the league and try to get a couple extra mil before he retires or goes over to Europe to keep making money. Even though his contract with the Canucks is up at the end of the year he is financially set. Bieksa is not too concerned right now I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILED-BY-THE-HAMMER Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 How long are you guys gonna rip on Bieksa for? I can guarantee you that Bieksa: 1) doesn't give a crap about what fans say or the media 2) is laughing making 3.75 mil 3) plus has a hot wife After his contract is up he will probably try to squeeze out a couple of mil from some team that desperately needs d. If not he'll bounce around the league and try to get a couple extra mil before he retires or goes over to Europe to keep making money. Even though his contract with the Canucks is up at the end of the year he is financially set. Bieksa is not too concerned right now I think. who is his wife what she look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 who is his wife what she look like I believe her name is Katie Bieksa... not sure if I can post pics as it is against board rules to post personal pics of players WAG'S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number One Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think we keep him because he has a hot wife. Approval ratings are pretty universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Your argument about the hitting does not hold water though Baggins. There are plenty of veteran D in the league who manage to hit a ton more than Bieksa does without putting themselves out of position. Look at Alberts this season. He is hitting like crazy and has rarely put himself out of position going for a hit. Bieksa is just poor positionally and defensively, and as a result gets himself out of position anyway. Bieksa used to run around looking for hits, which contributed to his lackluster defensive play. Now he doesnt go looking for hits, doesnt take the hits that are offered to him, and still plays poorly defensively. Thanks for proving my point that he is not adding anything that he needs to this season. He hasnt ought. He rarely hits. He has no points. He has taken some costly penalties. What exactly is he adding for 3.75 million per year? The problem is too many people remember the Legend and not the man 2005-2006 1 hit per 15.32 min of TOI, 5 fights in 39 GP 2006-2007 1 hit per 18.04 min of TOI, 6 fights in 81 GP 2007-2008 1 hit per 15.29 min of TOI, 4 fights in 34 GP 2008-2009 1 hit per 14.21 min of TOI, 5 fights in 72 GP 2009-2010 1 hit per 17.15 min of TOI, 5 fights in 55 GP 2010-2011 1 hit per 13.48 min of TOI, 0 fights in 9 GP Bieksa has 1 fight per 11.6 GP last year he had 1 fight in 11 GP so the people who think he is fighting less are wrong In the mythical 2006-2007 season Bieksa was actually the least physical in his career. So far this season he is on pace to be the most physical he has ever been. Actually now that I've started lets compare 2006-2007 to 2009-2010 a year we can all agree was terrible for Bieksa. a - means Bieksa gets worse a + means Bieksa gets better First Let's look at points 2006-2007 1 ESP per 59.50 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESP per 62.41 min ES TOI (-4.9%, slight drop) 2006-2007 1 PPP per 15.55 min PP TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPP per 22.23 min PP TOI (-43.0%, big drop) no SHP Second let's look at +/- 2006-2007 1 ESGF per 22.43 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESGF per 24.00 min ES TOI (-7.0%, slight drop) 2006-2007 1 ESGA per 22.80 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESGA per 21.28 min ES TOI (-6.7%, slight drop) 2006-2007 1 PPGF per 8.40 min PP TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPGF per 9.15 min PP TOI (-8.9%, noticeable drop) 2006-2007 1 PPGA per 10.43 min SH TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPGA per 6.05 min PP TOI (-42.0%, big drop) Third let's look at minor penalties, hits, BS, GA, TA 2006-2007 1 minor per 46.81 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 minor per 60.04 min TOI (+28.3% significant improvement) 2006-2007 1 hit per 18.04 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 hit per 17.15 min TOI (+4.9%, slight improvement) 2006-2007 1 BS per 24.89 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 BS per 20.35 min TOI (+18.2% fair improvement) 2006-2007 1 GA per 40.13 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 GA per 38.73 min TOI (-3.5%, too small to mean much) 2006-2007 1 TA per 67.80 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 TA per 40.02 min TOI (+41.0%, big improvement) Summary Bieksa's personal ES production suffered a slight drop Bieksa's personal PP production suffered a big drop The Canuck's ES production while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly The Canuck's ES defensive play while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly The Canuck's PP production while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly The Canuck's SH defensive play while Bieksa was on the ice suffered a big drop Bieksa had as significant improvement in his discipline Bieksa has had a slight improvement in his physical play Bieksa turn over rate has not changed much (tiny increase in rate) Bieksa has shown a fair improvement in his shot block rate Bieksa has shown a big improvement in his ability to cause turn-overs and strip the puck off the opposition So in reality Bieksa's personal PPP production and the teams ability to kill penalties while Bieksa were the 2 categories that Bieksa has shown a large drop in play. The teams ES production and defensive number dropped slightly as did the teams PP production and Bieksa's personal ES production. However, Bieksa did show improvement in his physical play, discipline, shot blocking and take away ability. Bieksa's GA rate did not change much. I give the reasons for these changes to the readers to figure out. Edit: fixed error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0medyClub Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 +1 to the........ Haters gonna hate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one night Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I just can't believe that AV would only play 1 defenceman and no forwards, no wonder I want him gone. Every team has 3 forwards and 2 D-men on the ice, hey someone tell AV to call a time out and count the number of players he on the the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 <br />I just can't believe that AV would only play 1 defenceman and no forwards, no wonder I want him gone. Every team has 3 forwards and 2 D-men on the ice, hey someone tell AV to call a time out and count the number of players he on the the ice.<br /> This is classic! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck1 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 and I absolutely agree and I absolutely haven't changed my opinion. Wow two Bieksa supporters, the fact of the matter is, he (Bieksa) is average at best and needs to play 12 min. a game not 20. Also Bieksa is being shopped and will be traded as fast as you can say happy new year. So this love in with him is futile in a cap world he doesn't fit. Hopefully Vancouver will get more than a bag of pucks for him or have to waive him.Salo is by far a better choice on D and young Parent can be brought along. Frankly guys Bieksa just isn't atop four D Man at best 6th or 7th one step away from the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Wow two Bieksa supporters, the fact of the matter is, he (Bieksa) is average at best and needs to play 12 min. a game not 20. Also Bieksa is being shopped and will be traded as fast as you can say happy new year. So this love in with him is futile in a cap world he doesn't fit. Hopefully Vancouver will get more than a bag of pucks for him or have to waive him.Salo is by far a better choice on D and young Parent can be brought along. Frankly guys Bieksa just isn't atop four D Man at best 6th or 7th one step away from the AHL. Intelligent stupidity. Far too many incorrect assumptions here that quite frankly are the pillars of your argument. On top of that there's way more than 2. I know it's hard to believe that people who want to just trash him will actually have to back it up. Go over to the who are you most disapointed in, goes a long way to show how folks like you and canucktyuktuk are desperate in trying to discredit how many people use their heads and and come to their own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hank&dan Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 To the Bieksa lovers: If Bieksa re-sings with ANY team next year, what do you believe he will sign for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 To the Bieksa lovers: If Bieksa re-sings with ANY team next year, what do you believe he will sign for? While I'm not a Bieksa lover I'll let it go for your clear special needs. Between 2 and 3 mil I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 <br />Intelligent stupidity.<br /><br />Far too many incorrect assumptions here that quite frankly are the pillars of your argument.<br /><br />On top of that there's way more than 2. I know it's hard to believe that people who want to just trash him will actually have to back it up. Go over to the who are you most disapointed in, goes a long way to show how folks like you and canucktyuktuk are desperate in trying to discredit how many people use their heads and and come to their own conclusions.<br /> Regarding your discussion with Wallstreet. nhl.com does not track shot attempts blocked (MS does not include blocked attempts). However they are recorded in the event summary found under the stats option for each game on the game calendar on canucks.com This year so far Ballard 2 S, 1 MS, 1 A-B, 4 TotS 50.0% on net Edler 24 S, 13 MS, 15 A-B, 52 TotS 46.1% on net Bieksa 14 S, 7 MS, 10 A-B, 31 TotS 45.2% on net Ehrhoff 19 S, 15 MS, 16 A-B, 50 TotS 38.0% on net Parent 3 S, 2 MS, 3 A-B, 8 TotS 37.5% on net Alberts 5 S, 1 MS, 8 A-B, 14 TotS 35.7% on net Hamhuis, 5 S, 2 MS, 8 A-B, 15 TotS 33.3% on net Rome, 3 S, 3 MS, 6 A-B, 12 TotS 25.0% on net Not going to calculate the league average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Regarding your discussion with Wallstreet. nhl.com does not track shot attempts blocked (MS does not include blocked attempts). However they are recorded in the event summary found under the stats option for each game on the game calendar on canucks.com This year so far Ballard 2 S, 1 MS, 1 A-B, 4 TotS 50.0% on net Edler 24 S, 13 MS, 15 A-B, 52 TotS 46.1% on net Bieksa 14 S, 7 MS, 10 A-B, 31 TotS 45.2% on net Ehrhoff 19 S, 15 MS, 16 A-B, 50 TotS 38.0% on net Parent 3 S, 2 MS, 3 A-B, 8 TotS 37.5% on net Alberts 5 S, 1 MS, 8 A-B, 14 TotS 35.7% on net Hamhuis, 5 S, 2 MS, 8 A-B, 15 TotS 33.3% on net Rome, 3 S, 3 MS, 6 A-B, 12 TotS 25.0% on net Not going to calculate the league average. NO HE'S GOING TO BE TRADED AND HE HAS THE HIGHEST GIVEAWAY ON THE TEAM. Don't ever show me anything that makes Bieksa not look bad again. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Al Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I don't understand the guys who feel the need to respond to every post in this thread. It's a thread about Juice, state your point of view and let other people state theirs. You have no deeper insight than anyone else. Why the self importance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hank&dan Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Im certain tonights game will bring plenty more anti Bieksa ammunition. Bieksa is his own gatling gun, aimed at himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 <br />Im certain tonights game will bring plenty more anti Bieksa ammunition. Bieksa is his own gatling gun, aimed at himself...<br /> Nice one! Hope you are wrong for the Canucks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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