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How long are you guys gonna rip on Bieksa for?

I can guarantee you that Bieksa:

1) doesn't give a crap about what fans say or the media

2) is laughing making 3.75 mil

3) plus has a hot wife

After his contract is up he will probably try to squeeze out a couple of mil from some team that desperately needs d.

If not he'll bounce around the league and try to get a couple extra mil before he retires or goes over to Europe to keep making money.

Even though his contract with the Canucks is up at the end of the year he is financially set.

Bieksa is not too concerned right now I think. ;)

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How long are you guys gonna rip on Bieksa for?

I can guarantee you that Bieksa:

1) doesn't give a crap about what fans say or the media

2) is laughing making 3.75 mil

3) plus has a hot wife

After his contract is up he will probably try to squeeze out a couple of mil from some team that desperately needs d.

If not he'll bounce around the league and try to get a couple extra mil before he retires or goes over to Europe to keep making money.

Even though his contract with the Canucks is up at the end of the year he is financially set.

Bieksa is not too concerned right now I think. ;)

who is his wife what she look like

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Your argument about the hitting does not hold water though Baggins. There are plenty of veteran D in the league who manage to hit a ton more than Bieksa does without putting themselves out of position. Look at Alberts this season. He is hitting like crazy and has rarely put himself out of position going for a hit. Bieksa is just poor positionally and defensively, and as a result gets himself out of position anyway.

Bieksa used to run around looking for hits, which contributed to his lackluster defensive play. Now he doesnt go looking for hits, doesnt take the hits that are offered to him, and still plays poorly defensively.

Thanks for proving my point that he is not adding anything that he needs to this season. He hasnt ought. He rarely hits. He has no points. He has taken some costly penalties. What exactly is he adding for 3.75 million per year?

The problem is too many people remember the Legend and not the man

2005-2006  1 hit per 15.32 min of TOI, 5 fights in 39 GP

2006-2007  1 hit per 18.04 min of TOI, 6 fights in 81 GP

2007-2008  1 hit per 15.29 min of TOI, 4 fights in 34 GP

2008-2009  1 hit per 14.21 min of TOI, 5 fights in 72 GP

2009-2010  1 hit per 17.15 min of TOI, 5 fights in 55 GP

2010-2011  1 hit per 13.48 min of TOI, 0 fights in 9 GP

Bieksa has 1 fight per 11.6 GP last year he had 1 fight in 11 GP so the people who think he is fighting less are wrong

In the mythical 2006-2007 season Bieksa was actually the least physical in his career.  So far this season he is on pace to be the most physical he has ever been.

Actually now that I've started lets compare 2006-2007 to 2009-2010 a year we can all agree was terrible for Bieksa.

a - means Bieksa gets worse

a + means Bieksa gets better

First Let's look at points

2006-2007 1 ESP per 59.50 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESP per 62.41 min ES TOI (-4.9%, slight drop)

2006-2007 1 PPP per 15.55 min PP TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPP per 22.23 min PP TOI (-43.0%, big drop)

no SHP

Second let's look at +/-

2006-2007 1 ESGF per 22.43 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESGF per 24.00 min ES TOI (-7.0%, slight drop)

2006-2007 1 ESGA per 22.80 min ES TOI, 2009-2010 1 ESGA per 21.28 min ES TOI (-6.7%, slight drop)

2006-2007 1 PPGF per 8.40 min PP TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPGF per 9.15 min PP TOI (-8.9%, noticeable drop)

2006-2007 1 PPGA per 10.43 min SH TOI, 2009-2010 1 PPGA per 6.05 min PP TOI (-42.0%, big drop)

Third let's look at minor penalties, hits, BS, GA, TA

2006-2007 1 minor per 46.81 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 minor per 60.04 min TOI (+28.3% significant improvement)

2006-2007 1 hit per 18.04 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 hit per 17.15 min TOI (+4.9%, slight improvement)

2006-2007 1 BS per 24.89 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 BS per 20.35 min TOI (+18.2% fair improvement)

2006-2007 1 GA per 40.13 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 GA per 38.73 min TOI (-3.5%, too small to mean much)

2006-2007 1 TA per 67.80 min TOI, 2009-2010 1 TA per 40.02 min TOI (+41.0%, big improvement)

Summary

Bieksa's personal ES production suffered a slight drop

Bieksa's personal PP production suffered a big drop

The Canuck's ES production while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly

The Canuck's ES defensive play while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly

The Canuck's PP production while Bieksa was on the ice dropped slightly

The Canuck's SH defensive play while Bieksa was on the ice suffered a big drop

Bieksa had as significant improvement in his discipline

Bieksa has had a slight improvement in his physical play

Bieksa turn over rate has not changed much (tiny increase in rate)

Bieksa has shown a fair improvement in his shot block rate

Bieksa has shown a big improvement in his ability to cause turn-overs and strip the puck off the opposition

So in reality Bieksa's personal PPP production and the teams ability to kill penalties while Bieksa were the 2 categories that Bieksa has shown a large drop in play.  The teams ES production and defensive number dropped slightly as did the teams PP production and Bieksa's personal ES production.  However, Bieksa did show improvement in his physical play, discipline, shot blocking and take away ability.  Bieksa's GA rate did not change much.

I give the reasons for these changes to the readers to figure out.

Edit: fixed error

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<br />I just can't believe that AV would only play 1 defenceman and no forwards, no wonder I want him gone. Every team has 3 forwards and 2 D-men on the ice, hey someone tell AV to call a time out and count the number of players he on the the ice.<br />

This is classic!

+1

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and I absolutely agree and I absolutely haven't changed my opinion.

Wow two Bieksa supporters, the fact of the matter is, he (Bieksa) is average at best and needs to play 12 min. a game not 20. Also Bieksa is being shopped and will be traded as fast as you can say happy new year. So this love in with him is futile in a cap world he doesn't fit. Hopefully Vancouver will get more than a bag of pucks for him or have to waive him.Salo is by far a better choice on D and young Parent can be brought along. Frankly guys Bieksa just isn't atop four D Man at best 6th or 7th one step away from the AHL.

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Wow two Bieksa supporters, the fact of the matter is, he (Bieksa) is average at best and needs to play 12 min. a game not 20. Also Bieksa is being shopped and will be traded as fast as you can say happy new year. So this love in with him is futile in a cap world he doesn't fit. Hopefully Vancouver will get more than a bag of pucks for him or have to waive him.Salo is by far a better choice on D and young Parent can be brought along. Frankly guys Bieksa just isn't atop four D Man at best 6th or 7th one step away from the AHL.

Intelligent stupidity.

Far too many incorrect assumptions here that quite frankly are the pillars of your argument.

On top of that there's way more than 2. I know it's hard to believe that people who want to just trash him will actually have to back it up. Go over to the who are you most disapointed in, goes a long way to show how folks like you and canucktyuktuk are desperate in trying to discredit how many people use their heads and and come to their own conclusions.

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<br />Intelligent stupidity.<br /><br />Far too many incorrect assumptions here that quite frankly are the pillars of your argument.<br /><br />On top of that there's way more than 2. I know it's  hard to believe that people who want to just trash him will actually have to back it up. Go over to the who are you most disapointed in, goes a long way to show how folks like you and canucktyuktuk are desperate in trying to discredit how many people use their heads and and come to their own conclusions.<br />

Regarding your discussion with Wallstreet. nhl.com does not track shot attempts blocked (MS does not include blocked attempts). However they are recorded in the event summary found under the stats option for each game on the game calendar on canucks.com

This year so far

Ballard 2 S, 1 MS, 1 A-B, 4 TotS 50.0% on net

Edler 24 S, 13 MS, 15 A-B, 52 TotS 46.1% on net

Bieksa 14 S, 7 MS, 10 A-B, 31 TotS 45.2% on net

Ehrhoff 19 S, 15 MS, 16 A-B, 50 TotS 38.0% on net

Parent 3 S, 2 MS, 3 A-B, 8 TotS 37.5% on net

Alberts 5 S, 1 MS, 8 A-B, 14 TotS 35.7% on net

Hamhuis, 5 S, 2 MS, 8 A-B, 15 TotS 33.3% on net

Rome, 3 S, 3 MS, 6 A-B, 12 TotS 25.0% on net

Not going to calculate the league average.

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Regarding your discussion with Wallstreet. nhl.com does not track shot attempts blocked (MS does not include blocked attempts). However they are recorded in the event summary found under the stats option for each game on the game calendar on canucks.com

This year so far

Ballard 2 S, 1 MS, 1 A-B, 4 TotS 50.0% on net

Edler 24 S, 13 MS, 15 A-B, 52 TotS 46.1% on net

Bieksa 14 S, 7 MS, 10 A-B, 31 TotS 45.2% on net

Ehrhoff 19 S, 15 MS, 16 A-B, 50 TotS 38.0% on net

Parent 3 S, 2 MS, 3 A-B, 8 TotS 37.5% on net

Alberts 5 S, 1 MS, 8 A-B, 14 TotS 35.7% on net

Hamhuis, 5 S, 2 MS, 8 A-B, 15 TotS 33.3% on net

Rome, 3 S, 3 MS, 6 A-B, 12 TotS 25.0% on net

Not going to calculate the league average.

NO HE'S GOING TO BE TRADED AND HE HAS THE HIGHEST GIVEAWAY ON THE TEAM.

Don't ever show me anything that makes Bieksa not look bad again. :(

:D

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