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This is definitely one of the funniest posts yet from a Bieksa apologist.

"Contributing factor".

If Bieksa makes the easy play, there are no other factors that come into play.

Not many "great options at the time".

You're right. There was only one option. The easy one. Which was to simply stay in front of Stamkos so's to prevent a clear path to the net for him or for a pass to a dangerous area. This is something that all Dmen are taught in midget hockey. The "Stamkos is a great player" excuse is nonsense, because in that position it doesn't matter who the opponent is, all the Dman has to do is stay between him and the front of the net, and there is no great option for Stamkos.

But as usual, Bieksa makes the routine defensive play a hair-raising adventure.

I also like the argument that well, Bieksa had a "so-so" game (but so did many other players, too!!), he and Hamhuis played much better in Edmonton. (So did the other players.) This feeble-minded wishy-washy grasping at straws to level the ice is incredible.

Bieksa made a boneheaded play. Again. But the important point is that these boneheaded boo-boos are unforced. There's never a safe moment on the ice when Bieksa's in the vicinity. He'll fall down, unprovoked. He'll deflect the puck at Luongo, unforced, as he did in the Tampa game in the first period. (The similar play by Alberts was actually Torres' fault since he made a rushed bad pass to Alberts.)

He played well in Edmonton. Hooray. Who knows what kind of game we'll get from him against Columbus.

Barry, if that is the funniest post from an apologist, then as a foaming at the mouth hater, you're a barrel of laughs and have been one from the outset. The laughs you provide on a consistent basis with your inane posts and blind hate are the stuff of slapstick legend.

I wasn't grasping at any straws....as I also thought it was a poor result from a poor decision. But, i didn't respond to Duo, in order to make excuses....but to talk the options he had through to some semblance of a conclusion.

You know hat's really wishy washy and feeble minded? The fact that you are going on about a play two games and three days ago. You haters are hilarious...like a bunch of dogs clamouring over the same small chew toy. If that's the worse thing he's done in a couple of games....then have at it. Keep re-living that mistake...whatever helps you fester your hate. His mistakes are like too much viagra for you guys....like a boner that lasts two days too long.....you really should go consult a doctor.

And to get to your assertion that the onle 'easy' play Bieksa had was to get in front of him....is exactly what he tried to do. He tried to get in front of where he thought Stamkos was going to be and meet him there, with a hit. Well, Stamkos stopped up with his body towards the net, instead of towards the boards, knowing that if he avoided the hit, he'd have a play to make by either going to the front of the net, or perhaps a passing option play. Well, things worked out for him, as his sudden stop, allowed a passin play to come to fruition because NO ONE was checking Purcell. Now does Bieksa earn some criticism for missing the hit? In my mind, yeah. It won't be the first time a dman has missed a hit, and it won't be the last. ALl this panty twisting is kinda ridiculous though....but it seems you guys must "beat" that horse or appendage to death. Well, give'r, if that's what gives you your collective jollies.

The rest of us will just point and laugh, as usual....you know......like the girls do.

And I doubt if Bieksa never made a mistake again (which won't happen) that you'd ever give him any credit, anyways. So you keep stroking that hate and whatever else you can get your tiny hands and mind on.

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Why are we even arguing about Bieksa still? He flat out sucks. Just like the colour blue is the colour blue, Bieksa will always suck. No matter how blind people want to argue it, Bieksa's sucking is going to be true. Heck, they would probably have a better argument that the colour blue is not blue because colour is just how human beings interpret it, the real world could be black and white. Bieksa being garbage is pretty much a fact and I still haven't heard anything coming close to a remotely decent argument that he doesn't suck from his supporters.

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Why are we even arguing about Bieksa still? He flat out sucks. Just like the colour blue is the colour blue, Bieksa will always suck. No matter how blind people want to argue it, Bieksa's sucking is going to be true. Heck, they would probably have a better argument that the colour blue is not blue because colour is just how human beings interpret it, the real world could be black and white. Bieksa being garbage is pretty much a fact and I still haven't heard anything coming close to a remotely decent argument that he doesn't suck from his supporters.

Ummmmm!!!

He makes millions of dollars playing hockey in the NHL??

Is that a sound argument for you??

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Why are we even arguing about Bieksa still? He flat out sucks. Just like the colour blue is the colour blue, Bieksa will always suck. No matter how blind people want to argue it, Bieksa's sucking is going to be true. Heck, they would probably have a better argument that the colour blue is not blue because colour is just how human beings interpret it, the real world could be black and white. Bieksa being garbage is pretty much a fact and I still haven't heard anything coming close to a remotely decent argument that he doesn't suck from his supporters.

true that, done with this thread

and for those that post in this thread like 10 times a day should find something better to do

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Barry, if that is the funniest post from an apologist, then as a foaming at the mouth hater, you're a barrel of laughs and have been one from the outset. The laughs you provide on a consistent basis with your inane posts and blind hate are the stuff of slapstick legend.

I wasn't grasping at any straws....as I also thought it was a poor result from a poor decision. But, i didn't respond to Duo, in order to make excuses....but to talk the options he had through to some semblance of a conclusion.

You know hat's really wishy washy and feeble minded? The fact that you are going on about a play two games and three days ago. You haters are hilarious...like a bunch of dogs clamouring over the same small chew toy. If that's the worse thing he's done in a couple of games....then have at it. Keep re-living that mistake...whatever helps you fester your hate. His mistakes are like too much viagra for you guys....like a boner that lasts two days too long.....you really should go consult a doctor.

And to get to your assertion that the onle 'easy' play Bieksa had was to get in front of him....is exactly what he tried to do. He tried to get in front of where he thought Stamkos was going to be and meet him there, with a hit. Well, Stamkos stopped up with his body towards the net, instead of towards the boards, knowing that if he avoided the hit, he'd have a play to make by either going to the front of the net, or perhaps a passing option play. Well, things worked out for him, as his sudden stop, allowed a passin play to come to fruition because NO ONE was checking Purcell. Now does Bieksa earn some criticism for missing the hit? In my mind, yeah. It won't be the first time a dman has missed a hit, and it won't be the last. ALl this panty twisting is kinda ridiculous though....but it seems you guys must "beat" that horse or appendage to death. Well, give'r, if that's what gives you your collective jollies.

The rest of us will just point and laugh, as usual....you know......like the girls do.

And I doubt if Bieksa never made a mistake again (which won't happen) that you'd ever give him any credit, anyways. So you keep stroking that hate and whatever else you can get your tiny hands and mind on.

I googled Brain Dead Defense and the article below came up. The goal was Bieksa's fault, period...

In Kevin Bieksa's Defence, Steve Stamkos is Pretty Shifty

By MIKE HALFORD MON, DEC 13 2010

Here is a frame-by-frame rundown of Kevin Bieksa defending Steve Stamkos on Saturday night. Specifically, Bieksa defending Stamkos on the play that led to Teddy Purcell's second-period goal.

Here is a frame-by-frame rundown of Kevin Bieksa defending Steve Stamkos on Saturday night. Specifically,

Bieksa defending Stamkos on the play that led to Teddy Purcell's second-period goal.

SCENE 1: ALL SEEMS WELL

bieksa1.jpg

We begin with a relatively non-threatening scenario. Stamkos goes to collect the puck in the corner while Bieksa closes. Stamkos doesn't appear to have any teammates in particularly good shooting areas. And since that's not Dan Ellis in net, scoring from this angle would be extremely difficult.

SCENE 2: INTERESTING...

bieksa2.jpg

Bieksa appears to have turned the wrong way. Fortunately, he still holds a key advantage -- his body is between the puckholder and the net. Besides, it's not like he's going to take a dangerous, risky run at one of the league's most dynamic players. I mean, that would be crazy. He'll just contain him instead.

SCENE 3: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG

bieksa4.jpg

This is the beginning of the end. Bieksa has abandoned all defensive positioning to give the Home Hardware sign a snow shower. To be fair, Home Hardware was kind of asking for it with those cutting board scissors commercials.

SCENE 4: WTF

bieksa5.jpg

Not only is Bieksa parallel to Stamkos now -- he's also got his back to him. I believe "parallel, back-to-front" is step six of the Electric Slide.

SCENE 5: COME ON, MAN

bieksa6.jpg

Bieksa is now stuck to the window like a suction-cup Garfield doll while Stamkos is free to do whatever he pleases, like look for Teddy Purcell.

SCENE 6: DENOUEMENT

bieksa7.jpg

Aaaaand...scene.

If you'd like to see the play in real time, here's the video. Fast-forward to the 1:40 mark:

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Why are we even arguing about Bieksa still? He flat out sucks. Just like the colour blue is the colour blue, Bieksa will always suck. No matter how blind people want to argue it, Bieksa's sucking is going to be true. Heck, they would probably have a better argument that the colour blue is not blue because colour is just how human beings interpret it, the real world could be black and white. Bieksa being garbage is pretty much a fact and I still haven't heard anything coming close to a remotely decent argument that he doesn't suck from his supporters.

See duodenum? It's morons like this who keep us coming back.

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Why are we even arguing about Bieksa still? He flat out sucks. Just like the colour blue is the colour blue, Bieksa will always suck. No matter how blind people want to argue it, Bieksa's sucking is going to be true. Heck, they would probably have a better argument that the colour blue is not blue because colour is just how human beings interpret it, the real world could be black and white. Bieksa being garbage is pretty much a fact and I still haven't heard anything coming close to a remotely decent argument that he doesn't suck from his supporters.

Ok so to Hank&dan, Barry, Wallstreet, Canuckelion Duo.

Now you see that any argument you make is trumped by the fact that Tatoes agrees with you.

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Canucklelion

Your post defnately sums up the FISH BOWL that these players are subjected too!!

Have you ever played hockey!?

Bieksa looks like he got deeked out - Stamkos faked a pass around the boards, and Bieksa anticipated it. Stamkos is the 2nd leading scorer in the league.

Let us look at all the plays Bieksa played correctly, and all the goals he stopped from happening. Mistakes will happen in Hockey. Teams strategically play to maximize opponents mistakes, and to minimize their own.

This Halford Cat should suck it

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Canucklelion

Your post defnately sums up the FISH BOWEL that these players are subjected too!!

Have you ever played hockey!!

Bieksa looks like he got deeked out - Stamkos faked a pass around the boards, and Bieks anticipated it. Stamkos is th 2nd leading scorer in the league.

Let us look at all the plays Bieksa played correctly, and all the goals he stopped from happening. Mistakes will happen in Hockey. Teams strategically play to mximize opponents mistakes, and to minimize their own.

This Halford Cat should suck it

Thanks for injecting a bit of objectivity Zach, but the "fish bowel" is definitely going to earn you an "lol" from CANUCKELION..... ;)

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I googled Brain Dead Defense and the article below came up. The goal was Bieksa's fault, period...

In Kevin Bieksa's Defence, Steve Stamkos is Pretty Shifty

By MIKE HALFORD MON, DEC 13 2010

Here is a frame-by-frame rundown of Kevin Bieksa defending Steve Stamkos on Saturday night. Specifically, Bieksa defending Stamkos on the play that led to Teddy Purcell's second-period goal.

Here is a frame-by-frame rundown of Kevin Bieksa defending Steve Stamkos on Saturday night. Specifically,

Bieksa defending Stamkos on the play that led to Teddy Purcell's second-period goal.

SCENE 1: ALL SEEMS WELL

bieksa1.jpg

We begin with a relatively non-threatening scenario. Stamkos goes to collect the puck in the corner while Bieksa closes. Stamkos doesn't appear to have any teammates in particularly good shooting areas. And since that's not Dan Ellis in net, scoring from this angle would be extremely difficult.

SCENE 2: INTERESTING...

bieksa2.jpg

Bieksa appears to have turned the wrong way. Fortunately, he still holds a key advantage -- his body is between the puckholder and the net. Besides, it's not like he's going to take a dangerous, risky run at one of the league's most dynamic players. I mean, that would be crazy. He'll just contain him instead.

SCENE 3: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG

bieksa4.jpg

This is the beginning of the end. Bieksa has abandoned all defensive positioning to give the Home Hardware sign a snow shower. To be fair, Home Hardware was kind of asking for it with those cutting board scissors commercials.

SCENE 4: WTF

bieksa5.jpg

Not only is Bieksa parallel to Stamkos now -- he's also got his back to him. I believe "parallel, back-to-front" is step six of the Electric Slide.

SCENE 5: COME ON, MAN

bieksa6.jpg

Bieksa is now stuck to the window like a suction-cup Garfield doll while Stamkos is free to do whatever he pleases, like look for Teddy Purcell.

SCENE 6: DENOUEMENT

bieksa7.jpg

Aaaaand...scene.

If you'd like to see the play in real time, here's the video. Fast-forward to the 1:40 mark:

Your a fool i saw Edler get walked around like a pylon the other night a person could put up video of all of our dmen or goalie looking foolish one time or another.

Pathetic.

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Canucklelion

Your post defnately sums up the FISH BOWL that these players are subjected too!!

Have you ever played hockey!?

Bieksa looks like he got deeked out - Stamkos faked a pass around the boards, and Bieksa anticipated it. Stamkos is the 2nd leading scorer in the league.

Let us look at all the plays Bieksa played correctly, and all the goals he stopped from happening. Mistakes will happen in Hockey. Teams strategically play to maximize opponents mistakes, and to minimize their own.

This Halford Cat should suck it

Yeah Zack, I've played a ton of hockey, Bieksa played that play all wrong, the fact you are defending his lack of fundamental defensive awareness, something Bieksa exhibits consistently, makes me wonder if you have ever played competitive hockey. Bieksa and his rude cap hit have to go.

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Your a fool i saw Edler get walked around like a pylon the other night a person could put up video of all of our dmen or goalie looking foolish one time or another.

Pathetic.

The thing is BL, it was a bad read by Bieksa. Most of us supporters have already stated as much.

The problem is, that mistakes like that bring out the clowns who have been laying low for weeks just waiting for a mistake like that so they can post "what a bum!" and "as soon as we trade him, we'll be waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy better!"

The fact is, if not for the unbelievable season of Sidney Crosby, Steven Stamkos would be leading the NHL in scoring. Guys like that are going to make you miss once in a while. But there's no point in bringing that up to the haters. They're so ecstatic that they have something to blame Bieksa for, they're blind to anything else. (Meanwhile Hansen and Schneider get a free pass)

I absolutely guarantee that they were disappointed that it was Ballard missing the block on Eberle's goal rather than Juice.

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The thing is BL, it was a bad read by Bieksa. Most of us supporters have already stated as much.

The problem is, that mistakes like that bring out the clowns who have been laying low for weeks just waiting for a mistake like that so they can post "what a bum!" and "as soon as we trade him, we'll be waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy better!"

The fact is, if not for the unbelievable season of Sidney Crosby, Steven Stamkos would be leading the NHL in scoring. Guys like that are going to make you miss once in a while. But there's no point in bringing that up to the haters. They're so ecstatic that they have something to blame Bieksa for, they're blind to anything else. (Meanwhile Hansen and Schneider get a free pass)

I absolutely guarantee that they were disappointed that it was Ballard missing the block on Eberle's goal rather than Juice.

Or pinning the blame on bieksa even though it was someone else who cocked up a la Hamhuis against St Louis blues.

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Yeah Zack, I've played a ton of hockey, Bieksa played that play all wrong, the fact you are defending his lack of fundamental defensive awareness, something Bieksa exhibits consistently, makes me wonder if you have ever played competitive hockey. Bieksa and his rude cap hit have to go.

Wasn't it the Nucks who offered him that contract?

Why fault him for signing it?

I have never played hockey at that high of level (Junior B is the highest I got too, I also play beer league and industry league, and I play D).

I was not denying that he palyed it wrong I was only pointing out that mistakes are made all the time. If they weren't hockey games would be pretty boring to watch/play??

What do you expect the Nucks to win every game 8-0??

Your expectations of Pro Hockey players are unrealistic.

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The thing is BL, it was a bad read by Bieksa. Most of us supporters have already stated as much.

The problem is, that mistakes like that bring out the clowns who have been laying low for weeks just waiting for a mistake like that so they can post "what a bum!" and "as soon as we trade him, we'll be waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy better!"

The fact is, if not for the unbelievable season of Sidney Crosby, Steven Stamkos would be leading the NHL in scoring. Guys like that are going to make you miss once in a while. But there's no point in bringing that up to the haters. They're so ecstatic that they have something to blame Bieksa for, they're blind to anything else. (Meanwhile Hansen and Schneider get a free pass)

I absolutely guarantee that they were disappointed that it was Ballard missing the block on Eberle's goal rather than Juice.

Agreed well said!

Bieksa makes a ton of small and big plays that help the team every game and as far as i am concerned thats how a dmens ability to help a team should be judged.

There has been numerous times this season guys like Edler and Erhoff not take their man and get walked around and i don't consider them useless or not keeping a easy puck in on the PP which kills us(Edler).

This is just a case of a few stubborn and bullheaded guys who hate on Bieksa and will fabricate the truth to try to prove their foolish points.

Its pathetic is what it is.

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Yeah Zack, I've played a ton of hockey, Bieksa played that play all wrong, the fact you are defending his lack of fundamental defensive awareness, something Bieksa exhibits consistently, makes me wonder if you have ever played competitive hockey. Bieksa and his rude cap hit have to go.

there is no issue with his rude caphit at the moment. There maybe an issue if and when Salo comes back. Until then irrelevant.

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Wasn't it the Nucks who offered him that contract?

Why fault him for signing it?

I have never played hockey at that high of level (Junior B is the highest I got too, I also play beer league and industry league, and I play D).

I was not denying that he palyed it wrong I was only pointing out that mistakes are made all the time. If they weren't hockey games would be pretty boring to watch/play??

What do you expect the Nucks to win every game 8-0??

Your expectations of Pro Hockey players are unrealistic.

It is great that you still play hockey but my expectations are that Bieksa play like a guy that is in the last year of a 15 million dollar contract that gets given big minutes on a contending team. I maintain that a) he doesn't deserve nor earn his money and B) he doesn't deserve or his play doesn't warrant the big minutes. BXa's cap space could be spent a lot better, its time for him to go.

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It is great that you still play hockey but my expectations are that Bieksa play like a guy that is in the last year of a 15 million dollar contract that gets given big minutes on a contending team. I maintain that a) he doesn't deserve nor earn his money and B) he doesn't deserve or his play doesn't warrant the big minutes. BXa's cap space could be spent a lot better, its time for him to go.

Who do you replace him with?

What happens if/when Salo gets hurt again, or doesn't recover?

Do you want to see another playoffs with Rome Alberts Baumgartner (I guess Parent now) again.

No offence to those guys but a line up with bieksa in it looks better than without him?

As for the bold above.

He could be subconsiously making mistakes along the end boards as a result of his twice sliced calf muscles. I don't know, but what I do know is he has not been the same player since. At the time he signed his contract he earned it, but unfortunately in Hockey injuries and dissapointment happen. It is unfair for us to expect him to play without making mistakes, because that is impossible.

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