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1 bad playoff run because of an injury and he gets shipped out.

Bieksa plays bad for 3 years (regular season and playoffs) and he gets a free pass.

Sounds good.

Ehrhoff played the finals with a shoulder injury. Bieksa played the finals with a knee injury. Neither required off-season surgery.

The last two playoffs combined (or the Ehrhoff years):

Ehrhoff

Games: 35

Goals: 5 (PP 2)

Shots: 75

Missed: shots 50

Hits: 41

Blocked shots: 38

+/-: -14

Bieksa

Games: 37

Goals: 8 (PP 2)

Shots 67

Missed shots: 39

Hits: 110

Blocked shots: 48

+/-: +8

Question #1: Who exactly played badly in the playoffs?

Question #2: Three Canucks were being talked about as possible playoff MVP going into the finals. Can you name them?

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Ehrhoff played the finals with a shoulder injury. Bieksa played the finals with a knee injury. Neither required off-season surgery.

The last two playoffs combined (or the Ehrhoff years):

Ehrhoff

Games: 35

Goals: 5 (PP 2)

Shots: 75

Missed: shots 50

Hits: 41

Blocked shots: 38

+/-: -14

Bieksa

Games: 37

Goals: 8 (PP 2)

Shots 67

Missed shots: 39

Hits: 110

Blocked shots: 48

+/-: +8

Question #1: Who exactly played badly in the playoffs?

Question #2: Three Canucks were being talked about as possible playoff MVP going into the finals. Can you name them?

Bieksa

Luongo

Kesler

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I'm not sure why all you Bieksa lovers are so caught up with Erhoffs giant salary. That's Buffalos problem. Just because he has an outragous contract it does not justify Bieksa having one. Lets talk about Bieksa and why his contract is detrimental to the CANUCKS.

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I'm not sure why all you Bieksa lovers are so caught up with Erhoffs giant salary. That's Buffalos problem. Just because he has an outragous contract it does not justify Bieksa having one. Lets talk about Bieksa and why his contract is detrimental to the CANUCKS.

Who on a contract with a cap of 4.6 million or less would you rather have?

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Here's your turtle.

Ehrhoff wouldn't fight his shadow.

lol everyone but you seem to know Ehrhoff's shulder was so bad he couldn't even lift his arm over his head let alone shoot or fight. It's like challenging a guy on crutches to a foot race, beating him and then calling him a slow poke.

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We'll see how far the Canucks go this year without Ehrhoff. Guaranteed they don't make it past the second round unless they add another defenseman on the team.

Sampy wouldn't know a defenseman if one bit him on the end of his nose. He is a hard core Bxa apologist and seems to think the Hoff's 95 points in 2 years grew on trees. The Hoff's offensive production is a lot harder to replace than Bxa's faux toughness. The only thing Bxa does that would be hard to replicate would be his comedy of errors and bad defensive decisions.

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I'm not sure why all you Bieksa lovers are so caught up with Erhoffs giant salary. That's Buffalos problem. Just because he has an outragous contract it does not justify Bieksa having one. Lets talk about Bieksa and why his contract is detrimental to the CANUCKS.

I'm not sure why you haven't answered my question yet.

Funny enough all this Ehrhoff talk kind of started with you...or rather with EE jumping in.

So...you gonna answer that question.

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Sampy wouldn't know a defenseman if one bit him on the end of his nose. He is a hard core Bxa apologist and seems to think the Hoff's 95 points in 2 years grew on trees. The Hoff's offensive production is a lot harder to replace than Bxa's faux toughness. The only thing Bxa does that would be hard to replicate would be his comedy of errors and bad defensive decisions.

Your agruing that Ehrhoff is a better defenceman shows what you know about the position. Defensively the two are not even close, Bieksa is far superior.

Ehrhoff got all his points playing top mintues on the leagues best PP. Watch how Edler will drawrf Ehrhoff's points this year playing those minutes at only 25 years old. Ehrhoff's terrible playoffs was a major factor in why the Canucks PP didn't click a lot through the playoffs especially in the Boston series.

How does Gillis tell Kesler and the Sedins that he isn't going to do one of those long cap circumvention salaries and then he goes and gives it to Ehrhoff. Another no brainer. I am impressed Gillis got a high 4th rounder.

Bieksa is a character and heart on his sleeve type players, signing him instead of Ehrhoff was the obvious choice. I agree he has struggled with consistancy this season but he isn't the only Canuck with this issue right now.

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Really? Who? Who was out there last season for that price tag that is WAY better than Bieksa. Please back up why they are better with more than just opinion.

Be sure they also have a cap hit that will fit in this teams cap space.

Here I'll help you out with some resources.

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/tag/2011-nhl-free-agents/

http://www.capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=CAP_HIT&position=D&limit=25

http://www.capgeek.com/leaders.php?type=SALARY&position=D&limit=25

Let me show you what's expected here so you can't just drop what you said again and move onto a related but alternate topic.

Brent Seabrook. Signed a contract last year where the first 2 seasons he is paid 7 million dollars...but it has a 5.8 million dollar cap. That 300,000 bucks puts this team awfully close to the cap. Well maybe it will totally be worth it. Seabrook has 1G 6A and is a +4. He has 10 GvA and 9 TkA. Gee I dunno if this is going to be WAY better. Bieksa has 1G and 8A. He's a -4 and has 16 GvA and 10 TkA. All this while playing very similar TOI/G.

Well that one's not WAY better. In fact I'd say it's about even.

K...your turn.

HEY HANK&DAN YOU FORGOT TO BACK UP YOUR BILE.

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lol everyone but you seem to know Ehrhoff's shulder was so bad he couldn't even lift his arm over his head let alone shoot or fight. It's like challenging a guy on crutches to a foot race, beating him and then calling him a slow poke.

Why was he playing if he was useless?

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Sampy wouldn't know a defenseman if one bit him on the end of his nose. He is a hard core Bxa apologist and seems to think the Hoff's 95 points in 2 years grew on trees. The Hoff's offensive production is a lot harder to replace than Bxa's faux toughness. The only thing Bxa does that would be hard to replicate would be his comedy of errors and bad defensive decisions.

Really?

Total Points from D-men:

09/10: 176

10/11: 157

11/12 To Date: 65

65 points in 25 games is on pace for 213 points this year.

Total Goals from D-men:

09/10: 42

10/11: 42

11/12 To Date: 16

16 goals in 25 games is on pace for 52 goals this year.

It really doesn't appear to be that hard to replace Ehrhoffs production. Particularly when you consider we got off to a rather poor start. I guess we'll see at the end of the season.

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Really?

Total Points from D-men:

09/10: 176

10/11: 157

11/12 To Date: 65

65 points in 25 games is on pace for 213 points this year.

Total Goals from D-men:

09/10: 42

10/11: 42

11/12 To Date: 16

16 goals in 25 games is on pace for 52 goals this year.

It really doesn't appear to be that hard to replace Ehrhoffs production. Particularly when you consider we got off to a rather poor start. I guess we'll see at the end of the season.

Nice stats Baggins. I like how you and employeeofthemonth keep proving them wrong with actual facts and their replies are simply opinions. It makes them look rediculous. EhrhoffEffect hasn't responded to any of your facts, I guess he's had enough, lol.

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Nice stats Baggins. I like how you and employeeofthemonth keep proving them wrong with actual facts and their replies are simply opinions. It makes them look rediculous. EhrhoffEffect hasn't responded to any of your facts, I guess he's had enough, lol.

I think I broke him. His arguments the other night just seemed to get sillier and sillier until they finally devolved into "guarantees" and BS about other guarantees he's made.

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Hmmmm...

Ehrhoff = 2 goals, 11 assists for 13 points and he is a -5... all for only $10M! What a deal!

Bieksa= 1 goal, 10 assists for 11 points and he is a -4... all for only $7M!

Bieksa's seems to be the better deal, so far. Both have played 25 games. Bieksa sees far less PP time and it is with the 2nd unit. KB3 also averages 2 minutes less per game than Mr. Errorhoff.

These stats will change and the Ehrhoff fanboys will say that they will favor Christy by the end of the season. Only time will tell. All I know is that having a soft-shelled turtle on our D right now certainly wouldn't make it any tougher.

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Hmmmm...

Ehrhoff = 2 goals, 11 assists for 13 points and he is a -5... all for only $10M! What a deal!

Bieksa= 1 goal, 10 assists for 11 points and he is a -4... all for only $7M!

Bieksa's seems to be the better deal, so far. Both have played 25 games. Bieksa sees far less PP time and it is with the 2nd unit. KB3 also averages 2 minutes less per game than Mr. Errorhoff.

These stats will change and the Ehrhoff fanboys will say that they will favor Christy by the end of the season. Only time will tell. All I know is that having a soft-shelled turtle on our D right now certainly wouldn't make it any tougher.

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Good post by a good educator of small and simple minds, both here and elsewhere. ;)

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