Blackberries Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 How original. Another "Bieksa Sucks" thread. Strange, I don't recall the Kings scoring on the power play while Bieksa was in the penalty box. Can any of you? 7 times out of ten the opposition does score on a 4-3 in ot. Thats why that pk was so miraculous. And if bieksa had any sense he would remember that setting a pick in the offensive zone in front of the ref tends to get called more often than it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luongo4PM Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 All I had to read.....you can't seriously make a judgment call based on an incomplete viewing. Torres' passing energized several of our rushes last night and actually threw his weight around a little too. Maybe watch the whole game before you proselytize next time. Incomplete viewing or not Torres still had a bunch of bad turnovers from the small sample size of game I did see... point is Bieksa is scrutinized for everything big or small... so why not others... I was using Torres as an example... Also I am on the east coast and was celebrating thanksgiving with one half of my fam last night... sorry i couldnt take in the whole game... hard to do when family is here and the game starts here at 10pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayToHell Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Incomplete viewing or not Torres still had a bunch of bad turnovers from the small sample size of game I did see... point is Bieksa is scrutinized for everything big or small... so why not others... I was using Torres as an example... Also I am on the east coast and was celebrating thanksgiving with one half of my fam last night... sorry i couldnt take in the whole game... hard to do when family is here and the game starts here at 10pm I'm on the east coast and I haven't missed a game in three years.....but I'm on the east coast of the US and I have the luxury of GameCenter. Happy belated Turkey Day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidrock Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 bieska was good, first period he was fighting the puck a bit, but after that he settled in, let him get his swagger back, seems like everytime he does something wrong its the reason we lose in nuks fans minds. it was kesler needless penalty that cost us that one, and glass not tying up his man in front of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The laziness and the pinches pisses me off the most. He has the potential... but never gives the effort. 22 minutes was way to much for him, Ballard only got 17... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taste-like-kevin-bacon Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 He had two questionable penalties the OT one was a bad called and the elbowing one was just a poor early season decision. He did have a solid game didnt cough it up into the slot followed a much faster and more agile kopitar step for step luongo still had to make a save but the pressure was applied to kopitar which is nessecary on a played of his caliber. He also showed some toughness that we will need from him all season now that SOB is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The laziness and the pinches pisses me off the most. He has the potential... but never gives the effort. 22 minutes was way to much for him, Ballard only got 17... Ballard was damn good last night. He looked pretty rusty during the preseason and he just came off of hip surgery during the summer, so I was pleasantly surprised. So fun seeing some big hits this year. Definitely lacked that last year and it was only the first game!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snucks Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I don't like he plays so casually .. carries the puck casually, plays defense casually. Hes just trying to look like he has poise or something. Its not working though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Funny, I don't see Kesler getting crucified because he got the penalty that resulted in the tying goal? Not that I'm saying Bieksa is great or anything, because he's really turning into a liability. But even good players make mistakes. I'm still concerned about Kesler, something really seems off with him at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Funny, I don't see Kesler getting crucified because he got the penalty that resulted in the tying goal? Not that I'm saying Bieksa is great or anything, because he's really turning into a liability. But even good players make mistakes. I'm still concerned about Kesler, something really seems off with him at the start of the season. http://forum.canucks.com/topic/288065-kesler-and-the-a-on-the-jersey/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 He was extremely mediocre and unnoticeable tonight. Unnoticeable? Then why all the notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x.canucks_forever.x Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 He wasn't terrible but he wasn't great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPizzle Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Wow - from what I saw Torres turned the puck over as many times as Bieksa- Keslers penalty was more costly than Bieksa's- and well while I'm at it , Luongo is pretty horrid in shootouts- but let's put all the blame on Bieksa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugemanskost Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Bieksa took two legitimate penalties. The Kings scored on neither PP. The elbow could have been 5 and a game, the interference was just that. Other than those brain cramps, I thought he was much better than average. He and Hamhuis, to me, looked like a number 1 pairing. KB rushed the puck well, joined the rush as a trailer well and defended the crease well. I don't understand why, after every match, Bieksa gets flamed by the same people. If he deserves it, so be it. But I haven't seen a thread flaming Kesler for his dumbass penalty. This is part of the reason he's not wearing the "C". Bieksa played OK last night, folks. Hopefully he continues to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Wow - from what I saw Torres turned the puck over as many times as Bieksa- Keslers penalty was more costly than Bieksa's- and well while I'm at it , Luongo is pretty horrid in shootouts- but let's put all the blame on Bieksa! The whole team is horrid in shoot outs, not just Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Can't believe he's getting more ice-time than Ballard.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The laziness and the pinches pisses me off the most. He has the potential... but never gives the effort. 22 minutes was way to much for him, Ballard only got 17... What laziness was there last night? He skated hard virtually everytime he had the puck, rushing up the ice. He skated hard getting back on defence, when he pinched offensively and had someone covering from him. He didn't do anything to cause any 2 on 1's for Hamhuis. And the extra minutes he played over Ballard were most likely on the PP and the PK. Bieksa looked very solid with Hamhuis on the PP. He cycled well, kept the puck in the zone as the last man on numerous occasions. He had solid blasts from the point. He held onto the puck to make good pass decisons while on the PP(again solid puck distribution) He got back when the puck was fired out of the zone, and he rushed the puck or made solid first passes while rushing the puck coming out of his zone on the PP. On the PK, Bieksa, didn't take any unecessary shots at opposing players. He stayed stride for stride with his assigments and switched off well with Hamhuis. He stayed low and took the man in front of the net by boxing him out or by taking away a passing lane cross crease or to the man in front of the net, making the decision on the opposing player to put the puck to the point as a better choice. He didn't interfere with Lou or screen him...or allow him to be screened, for the most part. He wasn't even on the ice when the opposing PP scored on us....that was Edler and Ehrhoff. The first penalty for elbowing was hard play...hard on the man, that is. We can't have it both ways. If we want him to play harder than before then there will be times when that hardness gets a call. We either accept it...but we can't call him out for being aggressive and physical one day and then lazy, seemingly uncaring, and a shell of his former self in the physical and toughness department, the next day or game. That nonsense just won't slide anymore. Juice gave plenty of effort and was not the demise of this team last night. Kesler was, he couldn't score when he had numerous occasions to do so and his interference penalty was far more selfish and lazy, especially while going to the bench. That led to a goal and Edler and Ehrhoff allowed a goal while defending on the PK. Bieksa had nothing to do with the loss tonight. The only thing lazy about Bieksa are the comments, nitpicking and views on his play tonight. But like i've said before....Haters gonna hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 What laziness was there last night? He skated hard virtually everytime he had the puck, rushing up the ice. He skated hard getting back on defence, when he pinched offensively and had someone covering from him. He didn't do anything to cause any 2 on 1's for Hamhuis. And the extra minutes he played over Ballard were most likely on the PP and the PK. Bieksa looked very solid with Hamhuis on the PP. He cycled well, kept the puck in the zone as the last man on numerous occasions. He had solid blasts from the point. He held onto the puck to make good pass decisons while on the PP(again solid puck distribution) He got back when the puck was fired out of the zone, and he rushed the puck or made solid first passes while rushing the puck coming out of his zone on the PP. On the PK, Bieksa, didn't take any unecessary shots at opposing players. He stayed stride for stride with his assigments and switched off well with Hamhuis. He stayed low and took the man in front of the net by boxing him out or by taking away a passing lane cross crease or to the man in front of the net, making the decision on the opposing player to put the puck to the point as a better choice. He didn't interfere with Lou or screen him...or allow him to be screened, for the most part. He wasn't even on the ice when the opposing PP scored on us....that was Edler and Ehrhoff. The first penalty for elbowing was hard play...hard on the man, that is. We can't have it both ways. If we want him to play harder than before then there will be times when that hardness gets a call. We either accept it...but we can't call him out for being aggressive and physical one day and then lazy, seemingly uncaring, and a shell of his former self in the physical and toughness department, the next day or game. That nonsense just won't slide anymore. Juice gave plenty of effort and was not the demise of this team last night. Kesler was, he couldn't score when he had numerous occasions to do so and his interference penalty was far more selfish and lazy, especially while going to the bench. That led to a goal and Edler and Ehrhoff allowed a goal while defending on the PK. Bieksa had nothing to do with the loss tonight. The only thing lazy about Bieksa are the comments, nitpicking and views on his play tonight. But like i've said before....Haters gonna hate. I don't think it's fair to blame the loss solely on Kes, just like it's not Bieksa's fault either. I'm not a Bieksa fan, but he didn't play terrible tonight. The only things I didn't like from him tonight was the interference penalty and when Kopitar got around him. The elbowing penalty wasn't a bad penalty at all, he was finishing his check and got a little over zealous. I don't know why people are complaining about that penalty. But like I said, it's not fair to blame the loss on Kes. His penalty was terrible, and he didn't play great. But not many of our offensive stars did play well, the Sedins didn't look great, Raymond didn't look all that good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Raymond scores in the shoot out and we might not be talking about Kesler's penalty. Wait, what about Bieksa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I don't think it's fair to blame the loss solely on Kes, just like it's not Bieksa's fault either. I'm not a Bieksa fan, but he didn't play terrible tonight. The only things I didn't like from him tonight was the interference penalty and when Kopitar got around him. The elbowing penalty wasn't a bad penalty at all, he was finishing his check and got a little over zealous. I don't know why people are complaining about that penalty. But like I said, it's not fair to blame the loss on Kes. His penalty was terrible, and he didn't play great. But not many of our offensive stars did play well, the Sedins didn't look great, Raymond didn't look all that good either. It wasn't my attention to blame any one player. I didn't intend for my post to reflect a blame towards a single player that I felt had the out and out effect of resulting in the loss. Kes was far and away more directly contributive to our loss than Bieksa though. I cut Kes, Lou, Sammy, Ray, a tonne of slack, because it is the first regular season game back and is at another level than a week's worth of practice is... The questioning of Bieksa for one chincy called penalty for inteference and a superstar's ability to skate faster around him going forward than he can backwards, is a stupid reason to take a dump on a player that had a pretty solid outing and showing in practically all facets of his game. People complain because it's easier to do that than it is to praise or stay quiet about someone that you don't like. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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