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On 2/13/2020 at 2:10 PM, Lancaster said:

I just wish the Whitecaps just stick with one jersey for at least 10+ years.  

I'm not too familiar with soccer jerseys of Europe, but either than sponsors, they remain the same, right?

no

soccer jerseys in europe change faster then in the nhl

they have specialty jerseys for all tournaments

and other out of league competitions as well

go check manchester united home page

so many jerseys to choose from

whitecaps do not change their jerseys nearly as often

and do not yet use specialty jerseys

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12 hours ago, coastal.view said:

i'm not convinced this is a winning roster

 

 

It’s local, crappy level of play which is made even worse by playing on Astro turf, soccer.  Don’t care. In North America all these soccer teams have losing rosters.  

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18 hours ago, Alflives said:

It’s local, crappy level of play which is made even worse by playing on Astro turf, soccer.  Don’t care. In North America all these soccer teams have losing rosters.  

So where does MLS rank among world soccer leagues?  According to one site, it's tied for 52nd place (based on 2017 results).

 

https://iffhs.de/the-strongest-national-league-of-the-world-spains-primera-division-again/

 

WORLD RANKING 2017

TOP 90 (1st January 2017 to 31th DECEMBER 2017) 

Place 2016     Points
1 ( 1 ) Spain UEFA 1195
2 ( 6 ) England UEFA 1177
3 ( 7 ) Brazil CONMEBOL 1134
4 ( 8 ) Italy UEFA 950,5
5 ( 3 ) France UEFA 938
6 ( 2 ) Colombia CONMEBOL 918
7 ( 5 ) Argentina CONMEBOL 902
8 ( 4 ) Germany UEFA 815
9 ( 17 ) Paraguay CONMEBOL 721,5
10 ( 20 ) Russia UEFA 689,5
11 ( 19 ) Greece UEFA 687
12 ( 26 ) Israel UEFA 670,5
13 ( 16 ) Cyprus UEFA 652,5
14 ( 10 ) Turkey UEFA 650
15 ( 25 ) Denmark UEFA 645
16 ( 14 ) Portugal UEFA 642,5
17 ( 24 ) Ecuador CONMEBOL 640
18 ( 12 ) Austria UEFA 625
19 ( 21 ) Croatia UEFA 623
20 ( 11 ) Mexico CONCACAF 573
21 ( 28 ) Switzerland UEFA 569
22 ( 13 ) Netherlands UEFA 568
23 ( 22 ) Ukraine UEFA 565,5
24 ( 23 ) Tunisia CAF 553
25 ( 27 ) Scotland UEFA 551,5
26 ( 9 ) Belgium UEFA 543
27 ( 15 ) Czech Republic UEFA 533,5
28 ( 18 ) Korea Republic AFC 528,5
29 ( 28 ) Saudi Arabia AFC 526
30 ( 30 ) Roumania UEFA 514,5
31 ( 40 ) Japan AFC 471,5
32 ( 31 ) Egypt CAF 447,5
33 ( 38 ) Bolivia CONMEBOL 439
34 ( 51 ) Bulgaria UEFA 429,5
35 ( 32 ) Poland UEFA 421
36 ( 46 ) Sudan CAF 413,5
37 ( 54 ) Sweden UEFA 406
38 ( 36 ) China AFC 403
  ( 34 ) Serbia UEFA 403
40 ( 64 ) FYR Macedonia UEFA 402
41 ( 44 ) Slovenia UEFA 396
42 ( 50 ) South Africa CAF 391,5
43 ( 48 ) Kazakhstan UEFA 390
44 ( 40 ) Morocco CAF 389,5
45 ( 63 ) Albania UEFA 389
46 ( 56 ) Iran AFC 388
47 ( 40 ) Belarus UEFA 375
48 ( 37 ) Norway UEFA 367
49 ( 43 ) Uruguay CONMEBOL 366
50 ( 33 ) Azerbaijan UEFA 358
  ( 62 ) Northern Ireland UEFA 358
52 ( 75 ) Lithuania UEFA 354,5
  ( 59 ) USA CONCACAF 354,5
54 ( 52 ) Costa Rica CONCACAF 340,5
55 ( 66 ) Algeria CAF 339
56 ( 68 ) Hungary UEFA 331
57 ( 57 ) Slovakia UEFA 328
58 ( 77 ) Thailand AFC 326,5
59 ( 47 ) United Arab Emirates AFC 325
  ( 55 ) Perù CONMEBOL 325
61 ( 53 ) Estonia UEFA 319,5
62 ( 45 ) Congo DR CAF 319
63 ( 69 ) Nigeria CAF 318,5
64 ( 38 ) Republic of Ireland UEFA 313
65 ( 49 ) Chile CONMEBOL 310
66 ( 35 ) Venezuela CONMEBOL 304,5
67 ( 65 ) Moldova UEFA 301
68 ( 67 ) Georgia UEFA 296,5
69 ( 58 ) Finland UEFA 289,5
70 ( 78 ) Uzbekistan AFC 287
71 ( 60 ) Qatar AFC 286
72 ( 70 ) Angola CAF 285
73 ( 76 ) Cameroun CAF 276,5
74 ( 73 ) Australia AFC 274,5
75 ( 61 ) Guatemala CONCACAF 268
76 ( 71 ) Honduras CONCACAF 263
77 ( 72 ) Nicaragua CONCACAF 256
78 ( 81 ) Zambia CAF 240
79 ( 79 ) Iceland UEFA 237,5
80 ( 73 ) Latvia UEFA 229,5
81 ( 80 ) Mali CAF 220,5
82 ( 84 ) Iraq AFC 216,25
83 ( 116 ) Syria AFC 205,75
84 ( 89 ) El Salvador CONCACAF 189
85 ( 105 ) Bosnia and Herzegovina UEFA 186
  ( 105 ) Philippines AFC 186
87 ( 84 ) Malta UEFA 182,25
88 ( 94 ) Montenegro UEFA 175
89 ( 86 ) Congo CAF 173,25

 

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Well, too bad they lost but the first game of the season is always entertaining if only to see the new players.

 

I thought Milinkovic jumped out in his performance.  Cavallini had a couple of chances, couldn't capitalize but looks promising.  Khmiri and Dajome looked okay.

 

Of the returnees, In-Beom seemed rather lost out there.

 

It was a mixed performance.  There were periods where the team moved up the field with ball control which was nice to see. But there were also lapses where they resorted to kicking the ball upfield and praying as we've seen so often before.

 

In any event, on to LA.

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On 2/21/2020 at 10:41 AM, coastal.view said:

i'm not convinced this is a winning roster

 

 

Whitecaps ownership are like our version of Melnyk.  Another decent player our scouting may find will just be sold off for transfer fees to line the pockets of the owners.  They (ownership) spend the MINIMUM necessary to keep the plebs in line.

 

I may not agree with all the moves the Aquilini’s may do but I will NEVER doubt their commitment to the Canucks in financial terms.

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20 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Whitecaps ownership are like our version of Melnyk.  Another decent player our scouting may find will just be sold off for transfer fees to line the pockets of the owners.  They (ownership) spend the MINIMUM necessary to keep the plebs in line.

 

I may not agree with all the moves the Aquilini’s may do but I will NEVER doubt their commitment to the Canucks in financial terms.

To be fair, they did spend a reported $6 million to acquire Cavallini.  

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32 minutes ago, UnkNuk said:

To be fair, they did spend a reported $6 million to acquire Cavallini.  

They knew they had to do SOMETHING else the Southsiders would go ape****.  I thought I read somewhere the collective resources of all the Whitecap owners is at least on the same level of the Aquilini's.  So it's not a case of them being just 'small potatoes' compared to the rest of the league.  Funny thing is, look how well the team is doing without Gillis's acquisition Markstrom currently.

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1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

They knew they had to do SOMETHING else the Southsiders would go ape****.  I thought I read somewhere the collective resources of all the Whitecap owners is at least on the same level of the Aquilini's.  So it's not a case of them being just 'small potatoes' compared to the rest of the league.  Funny thing is, look how well the team is doing without Gillis's acquisition Markstrom currently.

The Whitecaps ownership group is "poor" relative to the other owners of the league.  They collectively have like $6 billion or something.... but compared to the behemoth such as NYRB, TFC, the Sounders, etc., those teams has financial resources the Caps can only dream of.  I mean one of the former owners of the Sounders, Paul Allen had $20 billion by himself.  

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9 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

The Whitecaps ownership group is "poor" relative to the other owners of the league.  They collectively have like $6 billion or something.... but compared to the behemoth such as NYRB, TFC, the Sounders, etc., those teams has financial resources the Caps can only dream of.  I mean one of the former owners of the Sounders, Paul Allen had $20 billion by himself.  

Isn't there some kind of salary cap though?  I *think* I read somewhere the Caps were well below the league average (though again, I could be mistaken on this).

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An 'away' win is always good.  An 'away' win in LA is even better.  A very good effort by the Caps in an entertaining game.

 

It's still very early days  but, so far, I have a better feeling about this team and its potential than the Whitecaps teams of the past few years.

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I’m coming around on some of these new guys. Seem to add a lot of the bite we’ve been missing for a while now.

 

I really liked Bikel on the back line. Made Pavano’s night really tough. Owusu has a similar type game so looking forward to both of them making opponents hate playing this team.

 

Inbeom’s bad game does concern me though. Seemed hesitant and made poor decisions all night, which isn’t good news for our attack if he doesn’t show better.
 

Definitely a better feeling about this group than anytime over the last 3 seasons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, MJDDawg said:

I’m coming around on some of these new guys. Seem to add a lot of the bite we’ve been missing for a while now.

 

I really liked Bikel on the back line. Made Pavano’s night really tough. Owusu has a similar type game so looking forward to both of them making opponents hate playing this team.

 

Inbeom’s bad game does concern me though. Seemed hesitant and made poor decisions all night, which isn’t good news for our attack if he doesn’t show better.
 

Definitely a better feeling about this group than anytime over the last 3 seasons.

Agree on all points. I thought Bikel was the MotM. Pavano looked far more dangerous that Chicharito but time and again, Bikel was there to stifle his runs and keep him from providing service to Hernandez.

 

I also thought Raposo injected some real life into the Caps' attack. Smart substitution by MdS.

 

Finally, Khmiri is starting to grow on me. The Whitecaps have missed having a towering defender who can win the ball in the air, ever since Waston left. I think the combo of Khmiri and Rose has a chance to make us forget how much we've missed the pairing of KW and Tim Parker.

 

Still a lot of work to do and with the competitiveness of the Western Conference, I still see this as a bubble team, but they were full value for that win last night and I'm a lot more optimistic than I was after last week's game.

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i am honestly surprised to learn the season has already started

i guess that shows my complete loss of interest in the caps

i have been involved in soccer for many years

and was an avid cap supporter in the past

saw additional posting in this thread

and thought i'd see if preseason was done yet

was surprised to see that most teams have already played 2 games

 

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On 3/8/2020 at 12:40 PM, coastal.view said:

i am honestly surprised to learn the season has already started

i guess that shows my complete loss of interest in the caps

i have been involved in soccer for many years

and was an avid cap supporter in the past

saw additional posting in this thread

and thought i'd see if preseason was done yet

was surprised to see that most teams have already played 2 games

 

You're not the only one. 

 

First season: 15, 500 season ticket holders.

This season: 8800.

 

An alarming drop for a team that wanted to be 'top 40 in the world' or whatever it was. 

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9 hours ago, StealthNuck said:

You're not the only one. 

 

First season: 15, 500 season ticket holders.

This season: 8800.

 

An alarming drop for a team that wanted to be 'top 40 in the world' or whatever it was. 

that clearly was an initial pipe dream

when they were involved in building an academy of developmental teams

that is mostly all gone

and they shut down the women's team as well

 

now they are much more cynical

and preferring to pocket whatever money they can

from t.v. revenues, expansion revenues, players transfer fees, etc

hard to support such a cynical money focused enterprise

they have taken the joy out of the sport for me

at least at the professional level in this city

 

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