ricardo_604ca Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 finding the sedin's a line mate who can get them out of there slump isn't going so well. mason raymond has been the most recent to tryout but after the first game i already felt the need for the coach to try somebody else. well ok i'm fine with 2 games for raymond or maybe even a final 3rd game, but if there isn't any production by then i think this experiment is over. so who would be next in line.. kassian? well, seems like the coach feels he doesn't have the fitness level to even finish a full shift, as he is often placed back on the bench before the rest of his line mates. byron bitz was effective for awhile during his last call up, but near the final days leading to his injury the magic with the sedins was already gone. bitz was not hitting as often and becoming a defensive liability at times which is probably why he is still practicing with the wolves to this day. dale weise is a player who recently has shown he is willing to do whatever it takes to stay on the team. with every hard working shift he is convincing me that he deserves a roster spot on the team. weise has a good skill set, he's strong on the puck and is willing to stick up for his teammates. i say why not give him a try with the sedins . this is one of a few players the coach needs to try out and hopefully give the twins that spark they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I don't know which game you were watching, but Daniel and Hank combined for three points. As underwhelming as that sounds, that's certainly an improvement from Henrik's eight games of 0 points and Daniel's 1 point in those same eight games. They came out very well in the first period and the Coyotes were lucky they weren't down by three (or maybe even four) goals by the end of it; the only reason is was tied was a couple momentary, against-the-flow-of-momentum lapses in play. I was fairly happy with how the team played last game, as it was quite an improvement over those previous. Given, Raymond wasn't anything special, but there are better linemates for them than Weise, Mason included. I'd like to see Kassian given another shot; he wasn't quite adjusted yet to the time difference and hadn't developed his routine on the team when he got his shot (and he still played well.) I still think he would be great with the two gingers, given a considerable tryout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamacanuck18 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Ebbett aka our saviour will be back soon..... not to worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_604ca Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 yes, your right the sedins did play a better game against phoenix ,but this surely wasn't sparked by mason raymond being on that line...the auditions should continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm sorry, he's been awful the entire season. Especially when considering the glowing review he gave himself and Alain Vigneault: "I'm very confident in my abilities," said Weise. "I'm only 23and put up good numbers in the AHL and I'm willing to do whatever it takes tobe here and I think that's a trait a lot of teams would be interested in. I'm going to bring some energy and be physical and I think we can makesome things happen down low. I'll do what I do. Stand up for my teammates if need be and provide a spark and chip in a little offence if I can. "I don't see myself strictly as a guy who goes out and picks fights. I'm the type if a guy is going to run around and take advantage, I'm willing tostep up." ... "For the amount of time I watched him during practice, I thought he wasfine," said Vigneault. "He was what I was told by our scouts - a big body who brings energy and we'll see what he can do in agame." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinTelepathy Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 finding the sedin's a line mate who can get them out of there slump isn't going so well. mason raymond has been the most recent to tryout but after the first game i already felt the need for the coach to try somebody else. well ok i'm fine with 2 games for raymond or maybe even a final 3rd game, but if there isn't any production by then i think this experiment is over. so who would be next in line.. kassian? well, seems like the coach feels he doesn't have the fitness level to even finish a full shift, as he is often placed back on the bench before the rest of his line mates. byron bitz was effective for awhile during his last call up, but near the final days leading to his injury the magic with the sedins was already gone. bitz was not hitting as often and becoming a defensive liability at times which is probably why he is still practicing with the wolves to this day. dale weise is a player who recently has shown he is willing to do whatever it takes to stay on the team. with every hard working shift he is convincing me that he deserves a roster spot on the team. weise has a good skill set, he's strong on the puck and is willing to stick up for his teammates. i say why not give him a try with the sedins . this is one of a few players the coach needs to try out and hopefully give the twins that spark they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I think if the auditions continue... You may as well give Weise a shot! It should be apparent relatively quickly whether he can keep up with the Sedins mentally. Once he is back up I would like to see Bitz again. I think Kassian should be given a shot once he gets up to fitness standards (and starts sleeping!). If the AMEX line slows down, both Higgins and Booth would be worthy of a shot. All of these are assuming that nothing works. IF by some Burrows-like miracle, weise is an above average fit with the Sedins... It would add even more depth to our lineup. Playoffs: Sedin Sedin Weise Higgins Kesler Booth Raymond/Hansen Pahlsson/Reinprecht Burrows/Hansen Bitz/Volpatti/Malhotra/Kassian Lapierre/Malhotra/Reinprecht/Pahlsson Raymond/Hansen/Pinizotto(by mid playoffs in all likelihood). Haha that is way too confusing with way too many variables! The good thing about having such depth is that if we lose something like 8-0 with this lineup: Sedin Sedin Burrows Booth Kesler Higgins Raymond Pahlsson Hansen Malhotra Lapierre Bitz Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Salo Ballard Tanev Luongo We could come back with this lineup (the most extreme yet possible example): Sedin Sedin Kassian Booth Kesler Ebbet Burrows Reinprecht Higgins (there is that third scoring line of ours!) Lapierre Pahlsson(or Volpatti if it's the Blues/Hawks/Bruins) Hansen Bieksa Edler Hamhuis Tanev Rome/MAG(playoff beast in limited action) Salo Schneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_604ca Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 weise probably doesn't see himself as a 4th line checking , enforcer type. but he is trying to adapt to this role to some extent. his past history with the team hasn't been sparkling but having been a healthy scratch doesn't sit well for him, and he is showing lately that he is willing to do what it takes to stick with the team. i'm not sure how long this will last but last game he did have 4 hits and looked good in the 4th line. weise has the size to add that physical element and putting him with the sedins is more about him exploring his offensive side which i think he hasn't been given a real opportunity to display. i say add him on the try out list before malhotra comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Maybe we can have Tambellini come back and join the team from Europe like Radulov is trying to do in Nashville! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiun Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The biggest problem with constantly cycling new linemates for the Sedins is that we end up slotting Burrows in somewhere else. Is he capable of playing on a different line? Yes. Does he deserve to have his role changed and minutes reduced because the Sedins suck lately? I notice that their lack of production hasn't really killed his. He slowed down, but was still putting up the occasional point. And of course as soon as he was put with linemates that were playing hard for the puck and doing their jobs, he opened the scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I know you are going to laugh but hey, i'll say it anyway.... You split the twins up when you want them to perform, you don't throw an struggling lightweight in there with them. They need someone big or someone allot tougher than they are. They are playing like crap because they are getting pushed around and they don't like it. It's the new norm. Push the Sedins around, they don't fight back and they stop playing properly. Every team is trying it now. As you would imagine they would, in trying to deal with the best duo out there. D.Sedin-Kesler-Burrows Booth-H.Sedin-Higgins Hansen-Pahlsson-Lapierre Kassian- Ebbert- Weise And if it's true that Kassian is out of shape, then get him in shape......quick Because he has potiential. Wind is the most important strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Would love to see Weise get a few shifts or a full game with the twins. He plays hard, never drags his team nor his line down. Young, has the speed and seems to have stamina to keep it up all game and handle 1st line minutes. I think he would do better than Bitz did, perhaps not immediately, but over time. I think he has lots of potential, hope he's a Canuck for a enough seasons to show it. He's not a great fighter, but much better than Lappierre, love ya Laps but please stick to the checks lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak72 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The biggest problem with constantly cycling new linemates for the Sedins is that we end up slotting Burrows in somewhere else. Is he capable of playing on a different line? Yes. Does he deserve to have his role changed and minutes reduced because the Sedins suck lately? I notice that their lack of production hasn't really killed his. He slowed down, but was still putting up the occasional point. And of course as soon as he was put with linemates that were playing hard for the puck and doing their jobs, he opened the scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boards Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Weise fits in every way, save for one: he lacks the scoring touch. And really, that's about all you need when playing with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonnycanuck46 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 finding the sedin's a line mate who can get them out of there slump isn't going so well. mason raymond has been the most recent to tryout but after the first game i already felt the need for the coach to try somebody else. well ok i'm fine with 2 games for raymond or maybe even a final 3rd game, but if there isn't any production by then i think this experiment is over. so who would be next in line.. kassian? well, seems like the coach feels he doesn't have the fitness level to even finish a full shift, as he is often placed back on the bench before the rest of his line mates. byron bitz was effective for awhile during his last call up, but near the final days leading to his injury the magic with the sedins was already gone. bitz was not hitting as often and becoming a defensive liability at times which is probably why he is still practicing with the wolves to this day. dale weise is a player who recently has shown he is willing to do whatever it takes to stay on the team. with every hard working shift he is convincing me that he deserves a roster spot on the team. weise has a good skill set, he's strong on the puck and is willing to stick up for his teammates. i say why not give him a try with the sedins . this is one of a few players the coach needs to try out and hopefully give the twins that spark they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 If Bitz can play with the twins than so could Weise IMO. Why not? Weise is definitely an upgrade on Oreskovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clynch Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Give Wiese a shot with the twins, sure. Heck, give everyone on the team a shot with the twins. Currently you have a combined $12M not playing to potential. Wether it's, Wiese, Bitz, Burrows, Kassian it doesn't matter as long as the twins can do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm sorry, he's been awful the entire season. Especially when considering the glowing review he gave himself and Alain Vigneault: http://www.faceoff.c...0845/story.html http://www.faceoff.c...4444/story.html http://www.vancouver...2276/story.html He's had 58 games and is never an instigator on the ice. He doesn't take the body consistently. He will be supplanted by Aaron Volpatti in the playoffs. He has seven fighting majors to show for. If he's really running around, I think he would have to dance more than that. It's absolutely pathetic that he's tied with Maxim Lapierre with seven fighting majors. It's absolutely pathetic that he has only two more fighting majors than Aaron Volpatti. A guy who has had a busted shoulder from the start of a season, a condition that kept on getting worse until he had surgery in early December. It's absolutely pathetic for a guy whose role is to be physical and be an energy player to sit fifth on the team in hits behind Samuel Pahlsson. It's absolutely pathetic that Maxim Lapierre has over two times the number of hits he has for a guy Sthat plays the same role and the fact that Lapierre is usually the first guy on the forecheck and the first guy on the backcheck. As you can see, I don't like Dale Weise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeteman Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'd much prefer to have Bitz over Weise on the 4th line... Bitz outplayed Weise in every aspect when he was up with the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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