Special Ed Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Gillis stumbled a bit this year by losing whiff and then trading Hodgson. But I would rather stick it out with him than move him and end up with someone worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 As a GM you cant make players play, thats the coaches job. He has done some questionable stuff, but for the most part he has been great for the organization over all. The Vancouver Canucks is a class organization that is envied by many other teams in the league. We can attract top talent, we make the play-offs every year and they are a driving force in our community. Burke on the other hand, is a loud mouth baby. When he's not getting what he wants he goes on national television and wines like a baby....remember Colton Orr? Pretty hard to set an example when you are the biggest whiner on the team. I wouldn't want our GM making us look so pathetic and weak, and that attitude just trickles down to the players. Anyone notice Toronto's record last year. Ive never seen MG whining on national television about anything,.......... well there was one time last play-offs about officiating. My point is that MG is a class act and a leader, that makes Vancouver a classy organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So if Detroit loses against Nashville, should Ken Holland be fired too? Last place GM's get fired. Not first place GM's. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He's done a great job so far. However, what he does this offseason, and the results, will determine his legacy on the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Last time I checked we have no cups, Detroit has multiple cups, big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I guess the other big difference is they're an original six team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiredatwork Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So if Detroit loses against Nashville, should Ken Holland be fired too? Last place GM's get fired. Not first place GM's. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Moot point. Detroit won the cup four times since 1997. Toronto was an original six. Haven't won since 1967. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Weber Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You guys are ridiculous to think Gillis should be fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gourami12 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Gillis stumbled a bit this year by losing whiff and then trading Hodgson. But I would rather stick it out with him than move him and end up with someone worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiredatwork Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Also moot, since Gillis has been here just four seasons. He took a team that didn't make the playoffs and in just four seasons has seen his players win multiple awards, his team win two presidents trophies in a row and had his team lose in the finals. Sorry we didn't win the cup, but that's still pretty damn good for four seasons. Burke's been in TO just as long and his team still hasn't made the playoffs. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, lost a bit of the edge he created last year with Torres and Malhotra pre-season > Lapierre & Higgins at the deadline. Pahlsson has been good, but 5 tough guys recruited as complimentary players pre-season have had no impact > so we made the disasterous trade to give up Hodgson for that toughness which could play. Only it hasn't... Speed, skill, the PP & talent was the flavour of the day quoted after last years play off & that we would not be dismantling the team to compete against one match up (Boston). But we have... Samuelsson was the play maker on line 2, fine he was traded for a big athletic body but then we traded Hodgson the play maker destined to supplant him. Effectively we became bigger and faster up front, but dropped in secondary scoring. And we have not been able to score enough goals, so this was one mistake. Not getting a big physical defender was the other. We have lots of small and medium size defenders; but look how effective Penner, Brown & Kopitar have been? Not lights out, but we have had trouble matching up. Tanev is a fantastic young player, Gillis was betting on him (or Gragnani). But i've seen Brown knock Tanev off the puck for at least 4 or 5 opportunities & Penner is suddenly effective against our smallish line up. Now, having Danny back impacts this (strangely) because we do sooo much betterof a job at puck control which takes the pressure off. But we should have more defenders who can take the heat! We can whinge about Hodgson/Kassian all we want, but a bigger match up problem than secondary scoring is that big physical defender! I'm not for firing MG at this point, but his string of near perfect moves is over. I've been reading numerous articles on TSN, nhl.com, and from other places and I've seen a lot of comments saying that Gillis should be fired if the Canucks don't make it out of the first round. I was wondering what people on here think. I for one am a huge Gillis fan, the Hodgson deal stands out as a pretty questionable move but apart from that I've really liked what he's done and I like the organizational philosophy that he has implemented. I think that this summer will be the most important time in his tenure as GM of the Canucks (maybe second most important after re-signing the Sedins) whether we make it out of this giant hole and go on a run or not and I personally feel comfortable and confident with Gillis at the helm heading into what is in my mind the most important off-season in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Bring back Burkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Yes, lost a bit of the edge he created last year with Torres and Malhotra pre-season > Lapierre & Higgins at the deadline. Pahlsson has been good, but 5 tough guys recruited as complimentary players pre-season have had no impact > so we made the disasterous trade to give up Hodgson for that toughness which could play. Only it hasn't... Speed, skill, the PP & talent was the flavour of the day quoted after last years play off & that we would not be dismantling the team to compete against one match up (Boston). But we have... Samuelsson was the play maker on line 2, fine he was traded for a big athletic body but then we traded Hodgson the play maker destined to supplant him. Effectively we became bigger and faster up front, but dropped in secondary scoring. And we have not been able to score enough goals, so this was one mistake. Not getting a big physical defender was the other. We have lots of small and medium size defenders; but look how effective Penner, Brown & Kopitar have been? Not lights out, but we have had trouble matching up. Tanev is a fantastic young player, Gillis was betting on him (or Gragnani). But i've seen Brown knock Tanev off the puck for at least 4 or 5 opportunities & Penner is suddenly effective against our smallish line up. Now, having Danny back impacts this (strangely) because we do sooo much betterof a job at puck control which takes the pressure off. But we should have more defenders who can take the heat! We can whinge about Hodgson/Kassian all we want, but a bigger match up problem than secondary scoring is that big physical defender! I'm not for firing MG at this point, but his string of near perfect moves is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Bring back Burkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlas=d Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 yea fire a gm that got the canucks back to back president trophy's. if that team doesnt win in the playoffs that isnt his fault. sounds more like a coaching problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 How can you compare the situation they walked into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If MIke Gillis gets fired, what happens to the 14 other GM's who missed the playoffs>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Not the whole truth; - Luongo would have been UFA when signed by Gillis - Henrik Sedin would have been UFA - Daniel Sedin would have been UFA - Burrows would have been UFA - Salo would have been UFA - Bieksa would have been UFA - Hamhuis was of course UFA - Booth was acquired in trade for Samuelsson; who was signed as a UFA - Higgins would have been UFA & was acquired by trade - Lapierre would have been UFA & was acquired by trade - Malhotra was UFA - Tanev was UFA - Ballard was acquired by trade - Alberts would have been UFA & was acquired by trade - Rome was UFA - Pahlsson was acquired by trade - Gragnani was acquired by trade - Weise was acquired off waivers - Bitz was UFA - Ebbett was UFA - Volpatti was UFA - Schneider WAS NOT traded - Raymond was RFA - Edler was RFA - Kesler was RFA - Hansen was RFA Did I miss anyone? Looks to me like 22 out of our roster players are here either signed when UFA or traded for by Gillis. 23 if you include the coach. Its definitely HIS team. Schneider is an entry contract, same for Kassian, The core was so solid this team has succeeded in spite of him, not because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BuckFoston Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If MIke Gillis gets fired, what happens to the 14 other GM's who missed the playoffs>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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