Merci Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So essentially TB is the only destination for Luongo, picks and prospects aren't anything we would want to touch. We don't want to entertain Purcell, and most certainly not Malone. What we can do is trade those picks and prospects for something else. TB: Luongo, Raymond's rights, 1st round pick, Nicklas Jensen Van: Brett Connolly, 10th overall, 20th overall Dal: Brett Connolly, Schroeder, 20th overall Van: Steve Ott Sign Chris Kelly to a 3 year 3.8 million dollar deal Sign Pahllson for a 2 year 1.3 million dollar deal With the 10th overall pick draft a BIG, RH, Canadian, Defensemen, to replace Sami/Bieksa if the need be. Our defense looks like this. Hamhuis Tanev Ballard Bieksa Edler Salo Ballard emerges as a decent 2nd pairing with Bieksa, Hamhuis develops Tanev to an intense player, Edler get's low ice time with Sami. Whatever happens next season determines all 3 of our lines (Weber). Forwards: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Booth/Kesler/Ott Higgins/Kelly/Kassian Lapierre/Pahllson/Hansen 2nd line has the veteran 280 hits a season winger it needed, Kassian develops with 2 skill players that play physically, 4th line essentially has spare parts for all 3 lines, lines become very interchangeable with one another, essentially a 20 goal scorer on every line. The success of this team would be on Kassian's development, how Ott and Kesler click, and how Ballard and Bieksa play with one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thats a big overpayment for Ott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 3.8M is too much for a 3rd line center. If we get him for 2.5M then it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.moose Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Roberto Luongo, Jordan Schroeder, Niklas Jensen, Mason Raymond, Van 1st for Steve Ott, TB 1st Seems a little counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Roberto Luongo, Jordan Schroeder, Niklas Jensen, Mason Raymond, Van 1st for Steve Ott, TB 1st Seems a little counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 What role would Schroeder have with Chris Kelly, Raymond is worth nothing, So Jensen, 26th overall, and Luongo for Ott and 10th overall? Seems like a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Roberto Luongo, Jordan Schroeder, Niklas Jensen, Mason Raymond, Van 1st for Steve Ott, TB 1st Seems a little counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd84 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Overpayment for Ott and I think the cap hit on Kelly is a little over. I'd say Kelly gets like 3-3.25 million max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Kelly will likely re-sign with Boston. That D isn't good enough IMO. Who knows what the Ballard - Bieksa pairing will look like, those are two mistake-prone defenseman. Why would you want to decrease Edler's ice time? 1 bad playoff series shouldn't warrant that, and Salo is on the decline, I think we should move on without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 that's a HUGE pay cut for Pahlsson... Also, I'd do that trade with Dallas... if Ribiero came with Ott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Robbins Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 didn't Ott want to stay in Dallas at the deadline? Not sure if he'd still want to leave. Also, O-V-E-R-P-A-Y-M-E-N-T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 You're a bad fan if you want to keep Raymond, unproven 20+ overall picks, and Luongo instead of having Steve Ott on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 So if Pittsburgh had the chance to draft a future superstar center ice man. You wouldn't draft him because what role would he have with Staal, Crosby, Malkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 You're a bad fan if you want to keep Raymond, unproven 20+ overall picks, and Luongo instead of having Steve Ott on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageForever420 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So essentially TB is the only destination for Luongo, picks and prospects aren't anything we would want to touch. We don't want to entertain Purcell, and most certainly not Malone. What we can do is trade those picks and prospects for something else. TB: Luongo, Raymond's rights, 1st round pick, Nicklas Jensen Van: Brett Connolly, 10th overall, 20th overall Dal: Brett Connolly, Schroeder, 20th overall Van: Steve Ott Sign Chris Kelly to a 3 year 3.8 million dollar deal Sign Pahllson for a 2 year 1.3 million dollar deal With the 10th overall pick draft a BIG, RH, Canadian, Defensemen, to replace Sami/Bieksa if the need be. Our defense looks like this. Hamhuis Tanev Ballard Bieksa Edler Salo Ballard emerges as a decent 2nd pairing with Bieksa, Hamhuis develops Tanev to an intense player, Edler get's low ice time with Sami. Whatever happens next season determines all 3 of our lines (Weber). Forwards: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Booth/Kesler/Ott Higgins/Kelly/Kassian Lapierre/Pahllson/Hansen 2nd line has the veteran 280 hits a season winger it needed, Kassian develops with 2 skill players that play physically, 4th line essentially has spare parts for all 3 lines, lines become very interchangeable with one another, essentially a 20 goal scorer on every line. The success of this team would be on Kassian's development, how Ott and Kesler click, and how Ballard and Bieksa play with one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageForever420 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So essentially TB is the only destination for Luongo, picks and prospects aren't anything we would want to touch. We don't want to entertain Purcell, and most certainly not Malone. What we can do is trade those picks and prospects for something else. TB: Luongo, Raymond's rights, 1st round pick, Nicklas Jensen Van: Brett Connolly, 10th overall, 20th overall Dal: Brett Connolly, Schroeder, 20th overall Van: Steve Ott Sign Chris Kelly to a 3 year 3.8 million dollar deal Sign Pahllson for a 2 year 1.3 million dollar deal With the 10th overall pick draft a BIG, RH, Canadian, Defensemen, to replace Sami/Bieksa if the need be. Our defense looks like this. Hamhuis Tanev Ballard Bieksa Edler Salo Ballard emerges as a decent 2nd pairing with Bieksa, Hamhuis develops Tanev to an intense player, Edler get's low ice time with Sami. Whatever happens next season determines all 3 of our lines (Weber). Forwards: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Booth/Kesler/Ott Higgins/Kelly/Kassian Lapierre/Pahllson/Hansen 2nd line has the veteran 280 hits a season winger it needed, Kassian develops with 2 skill players that play physically, 4th line essentially has spare parts for all 3 lines, lines become very interchangeable with one another, essentially a 20 goal scorer on every line. The success of this team would be on Kassian's development, how Ott and Kesler click, and how Ballard and Bieksa play with one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 You're a bad fan if you want to keep Raymond, unproven 20+ overall picks, and Luongo instead of having Steve Ott on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not a lot of people are fans of Raymond, and he hasn't given fans a lot of reason as of late. However its pretty likely he ends up being qualified. MG isn't going to mismanage assets, and MG is going to determine if he still is able to contribute at a reasonable rate when he is healed and has an offseason of training. It looks pretty bad on MG if Raymond goes unqualified and puts up 50 points elsewhere. The possibility has to be ruled out. Luongo is a franchise caliber goalie... obviously it appears that Cory has usurped Luongos position, but there are going to be a few teams very interested in his services going into next season and he won't be moved for cheap. Those picks are unproven at this point...and so is every other draft pick until they are proven. What has Steve Ott proven? He proven to be a high end 3rd liner. You won't find people arguing that Steve Ott isn't valuable...but last deadline Dallas stars were more than open to the idea of Raymond + a pick for Steve Ott and Bob Mackenzie said he was being shopped to Van big time. Lebrun even said Raymond was offered for Ott (which means the value is probably not significantly off between the 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Lol Dallas wanted Hodgson. Mike Gillis offered Raymond and Dallas rofl'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy.crack.corn Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Did you just trade 3 first round picks for Steve Ott? Where's the "/sarcasm" ? I can't seem to find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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