nuckfanfromafrica Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nice post. I agree that some of our forward group under performed. Booth and Kesler just don't mesh as both are shoot first players and should be on separate lines. I believe the following changes will improve our depth immensely: 1. Package Luongo & Raymond & a pick to Toronto for Dion Phaneuf & TO's 1st round pick 2. Sign Zack Parise to a $6.1 cap hit or less (could be front packed) 3. Sign Jason Garrison to a $2.5 cap hit or less 4. Resign Aaron Volpatti ($0.61) & Salo ($2mil) 5. Add a rookie (Jensen) to the line up. Balance out the lines & roll 4 lines that can each play responsible & productive mins. Let Kesler carry a line (he is at his best when playing against opposing teams best players). 6. Move Hansen to the Sedin line. He adds speed, net presense and hockey smarts 7. Reunite Burrows & Kesler. They compliment each other quite nicely. Burrows passing ability adds to Keslers game. 8. change the old hockey adage of first line, 2nd line e.t.c. Simply roll 4 lines and play the most productive line. Creating internal competition. A line up combo is as follows: Forward group Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Hansen David Booth - Zack Parise - Jensen Chris Higgins - Kesler - Burrows Volpatti - Lappy - Kassian Dale weise Defensive Group Dion - Salo Edler - Garrison Hamhius - Bieksa Gragnani - Alberts Goalie Corey J.S Giguere ($0.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 What do i mean? well do we have a cup? NO! Boston was just as beat up as we were! The difference was and it was obvious they WILLED them selves to win, Van rolled over and died! As far as this year I don't even know what to call it, it was just painful! You don't think that any of the other teams are banged up, come on man! The will to win is what drives those other teams, I am not sure any more what is driving this team because it sure isn't A WILL TO WIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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realnucksfan2010 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Would love to hear your thoughts on why we can't win then Dirtyharry, please do share. by the way that was just my thoughts, nothing serious O.K.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugasi Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Great post. IMO we need: 1) a LARGE hitter/shooter with the Sedins 2) a playmaker for the 2nd line 3) a good punishing top 4 D-man We have enough depth to pick and choose for our 3rd and 4th lines In goal we should be ok which ever way it goes Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckfanfromafrica Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Great post. IMO we need: 1) a LARGE hitter/shooter with the Sedins 2) a playmaker for the 2nd line 3) a good punishing top 4 D-man We have enough depth to pick and choose for our 3rd and 4th lines In goal we should be ok which ever way it goes Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane42 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 We have lots of defensive depth, LOTS AND LOTS! Get younger though, and pick up that super prospect everybody in BC's raving about, yep, Justin Schultz (http://eliteprospect...hp?player=18241). Dan Hamhuis - Kevin Bieksa Alexandre Edler - Chris Tanev Keith Ballard - Justin Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderine Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wow great post good thoughts overall. The follow comments are carrying the rap though. The totality of Harry and nucksfans comments bring thought to the post. Valid points both of them. Try to remember though that too much change is not good and that to play hockey in the NHL is a huge accomplishment. It took a ton of personal sacrifice and work ethic to get there. I think the club is feeling through how to create a "dynasty" type team in a CBA/FA world. Long term success takes time and experimentation. We are only a few years in and need to respect what everyone is trying to accomplish. Time will tell, instant gratification does not work when thinking long term success. NUFF SAID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Would love to hear your thoughts on why we can't win then Dirtyharry, please do share. by the way that was just my thoughts, nothing serious O.K.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realnucksfan2010 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Your right, I could have been a little more specific with my statements, you do have great points, I am a die hard Canucks fan have been for 22 years, have seen a lot of good and bad Nucks teams, this one is by far the best I have i my 22 years or cheering for Van! just wish they could find that extra gear thats all i am trying to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Impersonator Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Next years line up. Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Kassian - Kesler - Malone or Purcell Higgens - Lapierre - Hansen Asham - Konopka - Volpatti Bieksa - Hamhuis Weber - Hedman Tanev - Shultz How it happens - Edler, Booth and a 1st rounder for Weber - Lu and Ballard for Hedman and Malone (for salary) or Purcell - Sign Justin Shultz - Raymond and Malholtra let go - Sign Asham and Konopka for the 4th line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_Vancouver Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hedman is a non-starter in any Luongo deal. Hedman is a non-starter in any Schneider deal as well. Yzerman is incredibly high on Hedman. He will be with the Lightning for years, and years to come. Then you want to throw in Purcell or Malone? We might get Malone and Detroit's first out of Tampa but not Malone and Hedman. Purcell is also a non-starter. He, Stamkos and St. Louis form the top line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Your right, I could have been a little more specific with my statements, you do have great points, I am a die hard Canucks fan have been for 22 years, have seen a lot of good and bad Nucks teams, this one is by far the best I have i my 22 years or cheering for Van! just wish they could find that extra gear thats all i am trying to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronning4center Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Kesler and Booth look like misfits without their playmaker that the desperately need. Luongo for Martin St Louis........ St Louis Kesler Booth........ WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 There's no way that Tampa is parting with the 10th overall pick for anyone but Schneider. Add Purcell on top of that, a 60+ point guy who thrived playing with Stamkos, and you have a deal that just doesn't make sense. The market for Luongo will be good, but not that good. Tampa needs that 10th overall pick to draft a D-man. Purcell + 10th overall pick for Luongo won't happen in a million years. Steve Yzerman's head would roll if that deal went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Go cheer for those teams then if that's what you truly believe ''realnucksfan''. You're sadly mistaken if you think the players on this team don't have a will to win. Probably the stupidest thing i've ever heard. realnucksfan, my a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nice post. I agree that some of our forward group under performed. Booth and Kesler just don't mesh as both are shoot first players and should be on separate lines. I believe the following changes will improve our depth immensely: 1. Package Luongo & Raymond & a pick to Toronto for Dion Phaneuf & TO's 1st round pick 2. Sign Zack Parise to a $6.1 cap hit or less (could be front packed) 3. Sign Jason Garrison to a $2.5 cap hit or less 4. Resign Aaron Volpatti ($0.61) & Salo ($2mil) 5. Add a rookie (Jensen) to the line up. Balance out the lines & roll 4 lines that can each play responsible & productive mins. Let Kesler carry a line (he is at his best when playing against opposing teams best players). 6. Move Hansen to the Sedin line. He adds speed, net presense and hockey smarts 7. Reunite Burrows & Kesler. They compliment each other quite nicely. Burrows passing ability adds to Keslers game. 8. change the old hockey adage of first line, 2nd line e.t.c. Simply roll 4 lines and play the most productive line. Creating internal competition. A line up combo is as follows: Forward group Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Hansen David Booth - Zack Parise - Jensen Chris Higgins - Kesler - Burrows Volpatti - Lappy - Kassian Dale weise Defensive Group Dion - Salo Edler - Garrison Hamhius - Bieksa Gragnani - Alberts Goalie Corey J.S Giguere ($0.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronning4center Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nice post. I agree that some of our forward group under performed. Booth and Kesler just don't mesh as both are shoot first players and should be on separate lines. I believe the following changes will improve our depth immensely: 1. Package Luongo & Raymond & a pick to Toronto for Dion Phaneuf & TO's 1st round pick 2. Sign Zack Parise to a $6.1 cap hit or less (could be front packed) 3. Sign Jason Garrison to a $2.5 cap hit or less 4. Resign Aaron Volpatti ($0.61) & Salo ($2mil) 5. Add a rookie (Jensen) to the line up. Balance out the lines & roll 4 lines that can each play responsible & productive mins. Let Kesler carry a line (he is at his best when playing against opposing teams best players). 6. Move Hansen to the Sedin line. He adds speed, net presense and hockey smarts 7. Reunite Burrows & Kesler. They compliment each other quite nicely. Burrows passing ability adds to Keslers game. 8. change the old hockey adage of first line, 2nd line e.t.c. Simply roll 4 lines and play the most productive line. Creating internal competition. A line up combo is as follows: Forward group Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Hansen David Booth - Zack Parise - Jensen Chris Higgins - Kesler - Burrows Volpatti - Lappy - Kassian Dale weise Defensive Group Dion - Salo Edler - Garrison Hamhius - Bieksa Gragnani - Alberts Goalie Corey J.S Giguere ($0.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotesMagotes Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Actually he's bang on. THIS YEAR the Canucks didn't have a will to win and showed little, aside from Hansen, Hank, Schneider, and Ballard, heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Funny, Edler returning to the role of the stay at home guy? I don't see why Schultz couldn't be paired with Edler. I think that would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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