Points Per 60 Forward Stats

[Jedaco]

Interested in the thoughts and opinions these stats might generate.

• Rank = among all NHL forwards with at least 40 games played

• P/60 = points per 60 minutes 5 v 5

2012 Stats

Player - Rank / P/60

Henrik - 14 / 2.58

Daniel - 51 / 2.25

Burrows - 56 / 2.20

Higgins - 87 / 2.01

Hansen - 97 / 1.96

Booth - 178 / 1.59

Raymond - 192 / 1.53

Kesler - 202 / 1.46

Malhotra - 220 / 1.42

Lapierre - 223 / 1.40

Kassian - 279 / 1.15

Palhsson - 314 / 0.92

Weise - 319 / .87

2011 Stats

Player - Rank / P/60

Daniel - 2 / 3.12

Henrik - 5 / 2.78

Burrows - 7 / 2.76

Raymond - 85 / 2.06

Kesler - 96 / 2.00

Higgins - 102 / 1.95

Hansen - 180 / 1.64

Malhotra - 225 / 1.48

Booth - 262 / 1.33

Lapierre - 341 / 0.86

A couple of things that stood out to me:

• Raymond higher than Kesler both years

• Higgins is very consistant and good

• Hansen top 180 both years (2nd line production)

• Malhotra is a lot better offensively than I thought (especially considering defensive zone starts)

[Ghostsof1915]

So basically you're saying Kesler was good because of all the first unit power play time he was on?

[Jedaco]

So basically you're saying Kesler was good because of all the first unit power play time he was on?

[mpt]

I would have to agree, when the Sedins are given time to set up on the PP they can make anyone good. Kesler is good in front of the net, but so are a lot of others. He doesn't really engage in the cycle he just sits in front. A pretty one dimensional PP.

[zduck14]

I think the stats say his point production was largely due to his powerplay time. As far as him being good; I think he's a great defensive player who's point production is inflated by his powerplay minutes.

[Jedaco]

You say that like it's a bad thing when the reality is that every top players stats are inflated because of powerplay time. Yes, Kesler's may be a more so than others, but the majority of his time 5 on 5 is spent shutting down the opposing top line. Take Tomas Holmstrom for example, two years ago, he had 25 goals and 45 points in 68 games. 13 goals and 22 of those points came on the powerplay. It doesn't mean he was ineffective. In fact, Kesler being a top shutdown forward/PK specialist/ powerplay force actually makes him one of the more valuable players in the league.

Even last year, if Daniel Sedin hadn't spent much time on the powerplay, he wouldn't have won the Art Ross trophy because 42 of his 104 points came on the PP.

[jonnycanuck46]

That's why I say trade all the overrated players on the team if possible. Kesler HONESTLY needs to go. I've said that for years. He is like a car whose lease has just expired. Just starting to lose the shiny armour.

Fact is guys, I think we could trade him for a Dustin Brown type guy or even someone out of that Philly team. After all, they've wanted Kes for years. I'm just saying, with the Sedins not getting any younger, Burrows is over 30, Higgins and Booth are just now in their prime; who exactly fits the bill of the "Canucks future"???

Again, unpopular opinion here, but I have a feeling the team would benefit from dealing Kesler similarily to what Philly did: Schenn/Simmonds>>>>>>>>Richards IMO.

[bluesman60]

That's why I say trade all the overrated players on the team if possible. Kesler HONESTLY needs to go. I've said that for years. He is like a car whose lease has just expired. Just starting to lose the shiny armour.

Fact is guys, I think we could trade him for a Dustin Brown type guy or even someone out of that Philly team. After all, they've wanted Kes for years. I'm just saying, with the Sedins not getting any younger, Burrows is over 30, Higgins and Booth are just now in their prime; who exactly fits the bill of the "Canucks future"???

Again, unpopular opinion here, but I have a feeling the team would benefit from dealing Kesler similarily to what Philly did: Schenn/Simmonds>>>>>>>>Richards IMO.

[Bodee]

Raymond also not bad coming off a bad injury AND the fact he is strong defensively. Hopefully a good pre season and some strengthening and we can expect some good things from him and Kes. Maybe a Higgins - Kes - Raymond line could be productive.

[ice orca]

I would have to agree, when the Sedins are given time to set up on the PP they can make anyone good.  Kesler is good in front of the net, but so are a lot of others.  He doesn't really engage in the cycle he just sits in front. A pretty one dimensional PP.

[uber_pwnzor]

Raymond had more points per minutes than Kessler...

Trade Kesler instead of Raymond...

[Master Mind]

Interesting stats, I guess Raymond isn't so bad then

[Peaches]

Can you post those stats for defencemen?

[Phil_314]

interesting find; how'd u get these numbers, OP?

Do you have the stats for Burrows during the times where the Twins were separated by injury and when he got bumped down to Kes' line vs. his production with the Twins? I doubt he would keep his P/60 at 2+ levels, whereas other talents can likewise get bumped up to that level with the Twins

Also fascinated by Raymond and Hansen's stats (maybe Mason can bring value back after all )

Higgins/ Burrows - Kes - Hansen would be good for the 2nd line, all of these guys play aggressively and can thrive near the net with their size, with both Higgy and Jannik dishing the pucks. Just hope Kes' number isn't accurate...

[Alex the Great]

That's why I say trade all the overrated players on the team if possible. Kesler HONESTLY needs to go. I've said that for years. He is like a car whose lease has just expired. Just starting to lose the shiny armour.

Fact is guys, I think we could trade him for a Dustin Brown type guy or even someone out of that Philly team. After all, they've wanted Kes for years. I'm just saying, with the Sedins not getting any younger, Burrows is over 30, Higgins and Booth are just now in their prime; who exactly fits the bill of the "Canucks future"???

Again, unpopular opinion here, but I have a feeling the team would benefit from dealing Kesler similarily to what Philly did: Schenn/Simmonds>>>>>>>>Richards IMO.

[Ugli Fruit]

Raymond was 4th in 2011? Only below the Sedins and Burrows? Whoaaa

[-AJ-]

Kesler has played with a bad hip, and this year with a torn shoulder and you think his lease has expired.

I hope that he resists the urge to come back early this time around and waits until he is close to 100% healthy before he returns. At least that way, he will come back and perform at a high rate and make people like you eat your words.

The only thing that has lost it's shiny armour is the small bit of credibility that you have as a poster.

[Wonderine]

That's why I say trade all the overrated players on the team if possible. Kesler HONESTLY needs to go. I've said that for years. He is like a car whose lease has just expired. Just starting to lose the shiny armour.

Fact is guys, I think we could trade him for a Dustin Brown type guy or even someone out of that Philly team. After all, they've wanted Kes for years. I'm just saying, with the Sedins not getting any younger, Burrows is over 30, Higgins and Booth are just now in their prime; who exactly fits the bill of the "Canucks future"???

Again, unpopular opinion here, but I have a feeling the team would benefit from dealing Kesler similarily to what Philly did: Schenn/Simmonds>>>>>>>>Richards IMO.

[prana16]

Hahahah yeah because Philly got so far in the playoffs with Schenn and Simmonds compared to LA with Richards.

Kes played hurt for half a year, had no training camp or off season training, give him a break.

[JamesB]

I think the stats say his point production was largely due to his powerplay time. As far as him being good; I think he's a great defensive player who's point production is inflated by his powerplay minutes.