DownUndaCanuck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Biggest difference: Luck LA captured lightning in a bottle on their run to the Cup. Everything went right in the playoffs. Every player got hot at the right time. New Jersey winning two games in a row near the end is the only semblance of adversity they had to face. LA also had no significant injuries. You don't even hear rumours that anyone on the team is playing through injury. The new NHL is all about parity. Anyone can beat anyone. LA won two tight 2-1 games in overtime. A lucky bounce the other way in either game and it's very different. Really, the only game the Kings had any back luck was game 4 in the Cup Final. That's it. The Kings got hot at the right time. That's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 We need more Canadians (that's what Don Cherry would say). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Not luck? We barely squeaked by the hawks after up 3-0. Winning game 7 was pure luck, it took the team extra minutes in game 7 to finish off a team that had no business being there. Nashville. Not luck? If it wasn't for kesler going beast mode all of a sudden, the canucks would have lost. He hasn't mimicked that performance since. Also nashville was very inexperienced. First time ever making it out of a first round. They were in completely new territory. San Jose. Not luck? Bieksa had one of the flukiest goals ever to clinch game 5. Boston. Well luck ran out and we couldn't win game 7 on home ice. Luck had a lot to do with the canucks being in SCF last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 And Reinprecht's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Luck had nothing to do with it. Our weaknesses were: Goaltending. Quick > Luongo. By the time Schneids got to start it was almost already too late Defense: LA had a bigger, more physical defense. Edler had one of the worst playoff series of his career. The whole of our defense just couldn't contain LA. (Then again a lot of teams ran into that) Doughty is an elite d-man, a type that we're lacking. Offense: Outside of the Twins did anyone else show up? Where was Booth? Where was Higgins? Burrows? Kes was hurt. LA had secondary scoring with the likes of King, Penner, Stoll. Coaching: Look at the two coaches. AV and his assistants didn't get the team to work on fixing it's powerplay, or work on an effective forecheck. Dump-Chase, Dump-Chase. Predictable. Then you look at Sutter. He was getting the most of his horses. He played a puck possession game. The players were like lions on raw meat. Sutter was actually COACHING his players, working with them, correcting mistakes, demanding more of his guys. Sutter got results. AV...well getting to game 7 I guess is good enough for this franchise. That's why we lost. We got out-worked, out-coached. The team from 2/3rd of the season on was out of gas, plain and simple. You can get hot at the right time, but you need the team to get you to 16 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LA started the season over in Europe, just like the last 4 cup winners. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Secondary scoring, elite playoff goaltending, and health. Hopefully with a shrewd trade/signing or two, Schneider in net, and a nice long offseason to train and get prepared, we'll eliminate those shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Since many others have already pointed out the fail in the OP I will just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The Kings did copy the Canucks model at the center ice position. Acquiring Richards to be their Ryan Kesler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mygame Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Here is the bottom line kid's,these type of threads (all threads "what if" etc) won't stop til the nucks win the cup.It's been 40 + years and we are cup crazy here, this could be a make or break summer for years to come.I hope that in my life time we win it, but til we do get used to everyone comparing,"what if'"we should do this, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXnucks975 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I don't think we need to add more cup winners, we have something better a team full of guys who were one game away from it, and granted the team was worn out last year, but still found ways to win in the regular season. What we need is this long off season to heal, get our mental state back in order, and if we can grab an impact player or two if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Biggest difference: Luck LA captured lightning in a bottle on their run to the Cup. Everything went right in the playoffs. Every player got hot at the right time. New Jersey winning two games in a row near the end is the only semblance of adversity they had to face. LA also had no significant injuries. You don't even hear rumours that anyone on the team is playing through injury. The new NHL is all about parity. Anyone can beat anyone. LA won two tight 2-1 games in overtime. A lucky bounce the other way in either game and it's very different. Really, the only game the Kings had any back luck was game 4 in the Cup Final. That's it. The Kings got hot at the right time. That's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Not luck? We barely squeaked by the hawks after up 3-0. Winning game 7 was pure luck, it took the team extra minutes in game 7 to finish off a team that had no business being there. Nashville. Not luck? If it wasn't for kesler going beast mode all of a sudden, the canucks would have lost. He hasn't mimicked that performance since. Also nashville was very inexperienced. First time ever making it out of a first round. They were in completely new territory. San Jose. Not luck? Bieksa had one of the flukiest goals ever to clinch game 5. Boston. Well luck ran out and we couldn't win game 7 on home ice. Luck had a lot to do with the canucks being in SCF last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfall Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 If Canucks fans are willing to settle with luck as the reasons for winning and losing then this is why I find it hard to be a Canucks fan. When a team is dominant luck should be a small percentage of the game. The Canucks are not dominant and cannot claim to be championship material if their mentality relies this heavily on luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Pahlsson and Rome have cup rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Rome and Pahlsson do have rings.....But, do they play a significant role on our team? A third line shut-down center and a spare D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-d Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LA had all the stars lined up perfectly just in time for them. As soon as the PO begins Kings started skating twice as fast as during the regular season, forechecking like there's no tomorrow and physically overpowering the other team at every puck battle. All this while all of their key players also remained completely healthy and the puck seemed to bounce to their way most of time. When you see that happening to a team in the playoffs, you know other teams have no chance whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Luck had nothing to do with it. Our weaknesses were: Goaltending. Quick > Luongo. By the time Schneids got to start it was almost already too late Defense: LA had a bigger, more physical defense. Edler had one of the worst playoff series of his career. The whole of our defense just couldn't contain LA. (Then again a lot of teams ran into that) Doughty is an elite d-man, a type that we're lacking. Offense: Outside of the Twins did anyone else show up? Where was Booth? Where was Higgins? Burrows? Kes was hurt. LA had secondary scoring with the likes of King, Penner, Stoll. Coaching: Look at the two coaches. AV and his assistants didn't get the team to work on fixing it's powerplay, or work on an effective forecheck. Dump-Chase, Dump-Chase. Predictable. Then you look at Sutter. He was getting the most of his horses. He played a puck possession game. The players were like lions on raw meat. Sutter was actually COACHING his players, working with them, correcting mistakes, demanding more of his guys. Sutter got results. AV...well getting to game 7 I guess is good enough for this franchise. That's why we lost. We got out-worked, out-coached. The team from 2/3rd of the season on was out of gas, plain and simple. You can get hot at the right time, but you need the team to get you to 16 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEEWILLY01 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 LA has ten times the quality players, coach, GM and all the rest that goes into a Stanley Cup winner. The Nucks have none of this, least of all the Coach and GM Gilligan!!!!................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEEWILLY01 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 ......Schneider got ample time to correct the ship but he couldn't do it.Plus the team did show up in front of him and not in front of Lou.Schneider lost 2 and Luongo lost 2.The team was our problem not the Goaltenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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